[gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

Hi,

I'm trying to switch ISPs over to Bell South.  I can not get it to
connect up though.  I have tried wvdial and Kppp with no luck.  This is
what I am getting. 

> root@smoker / # wvdial
> WvDial<*1>: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
> WvDial<*1>: Initializing modem.
> WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATZ
> WvDial Modem<*1>: ATZ
> WvDial Modem<*1>: OK
> WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
> WvDial Modem<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
> WvDial Modem<*1>: OK
> WvDial<*1>: Modem initialized.
> WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATDT*70,4952462
> WvDial<*1>: Waiting for carrier.
> WvDial Modem<*1>: ATDT*70,4952462
> WvDial Modem<*1>: CONNECT 26400/V34/NONE
> WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt.
> WvDial<Notice>: Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd and hoping for
> the best.
> WvDial<Notice>: Starting pppd at Tue May 29 17:57:20 2007
> WvDial<Notice>: Pid of pppd: 15088
> WvDial<*1>: Using interface ppp0
> WvDial<*1>: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08]
> WvDial<*1>: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08]
> WvDial<*1>: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08]
> WvDial<*1>: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08]
> WvDial<*1>: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08]
> WvDial<*1>: Disconnecting at Tue May 29 17:57:50 2007
> WvDial<*1>: The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit
> code = 16)
> WvDial<*1>: man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail.
> WvDial<Notice>: Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the
> wvdial and pppd man pages for more information.
> WvDial<Notice>: Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 5 seconds

>From /var/log/messages

> May 29 17:53:48 smoker pppd[11949]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
> May 29 17:53:48 smoker pppd[11949]: Using interface ppp0
> May 29 17:53:48 smoker pppd[11949]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
> May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: Connection terminated.
> May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: Modem hangup
> May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: Exit.
> May 29 17:55:35 smoker pppd[27516]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
> May 29 17:55:35 smoker pppd[27516]: Using interface ppp0
> May 29 17:55:35 smoker pppd[27516]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
> May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: Connection terminated.
> May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: Modem hangup
> May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: Exit.

When I tried to use Kppp, I got this error:

> May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: pppd 2.4.4 started by dale, uid 1000
> May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: using channel 403
> May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: Using interface ppp0
> May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:32 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:35 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:38 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:41 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:44 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:47 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:50 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:53 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:56 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xe7380598> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
> May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: Connection terminated.
> May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: Modem hangup
> May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: Exit.
I did a google search and nothing made sense to me.  I did try adding
lcp-max-configure 30 to /etc/ppp/options though.  Still no go.

Anybody have a clue on how to fix this??

Thanks 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 30 May 2007 00:25, Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to switch ISPs over to Bell South.  I can not get it to
> connect up though.  I have tried wvdial and Kppp with no luck.  This is
> what I am getting.
[snip]
>
> I did a google search and nothing made sense to me.  I did try adding
> lcp-max-configure 30 to /etc/ppp/options though.  Still no go.
>
> Anybody have a clue on how to fix this??

This is not going to help, but for what it's worth I used to have the same 
problem with a number of ISP dial-up numbers in the UK.  I could get a 
dialling tone but for some reason the ISP modem would not pick up/respond. My 
modem would start the handshake but the ISP's would continue ringing.  After 
trying out about a dozen different telephone Nos or so, I managed to find one 
(virgin.net) which worked without a problem; i.e. the ISP's modem would pick 
up and the handshake complete.  I never understood what was the cause of this 
problem and would be interested to see what fixes it for you.

Another thing, in the UK some ISP's modems are set to ignore calls which do 
not identify their telephone number.  In such cases the dial up connection 
will not work if you withhold your number. If your phone settings are set to 
automatically withhold the number then in the UK you would need to prefix the 
dial up number with 1470, e.g. 1470 0845 0798313

Good luck!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 May 2007 00:25, Dale wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to switch ISPs over to Bell South.  I can not get it to
>> connect up though.  I have tried wvdial and Kppp with no luck.  This is
>> what I am getting.
>>     
> [snip]
>   
>> I did a google search and nothing made sense to me.  I did try adding
>> lcp-max-configure 30 to /etc/ppp/options though.  Still no go.
>>
>> Anybody have a clue on how to fix this??
>>     
>
> This is not going to help, but for what it's worth I used to have the same 
> problem with a number of ISP dial-up numbers in the UK.  I could get a 
> dialling tone but for some reason the ISP modem would not pick up/respond. My 
> modem would start the handshake but the ISP's would continue ringing.  After 
> trying out about a dozen different telephone Nos or so, I managed to find one 
> (virgin.net) which worked without a problem; i.e. the ISP's modem would pick 
> up and the handshake complete.  I never understood what was the cause of this 
> problem and would be interested to see what fixes it for you.
>
> Another thing, in the UK some ISP's modems are set to ignore calls which do 
> not identify their telephone number.  In such cases the dial up connection 
> will not work if you withhold your number. If your phone settings are set to 
> automatically withhold the number then in the UK you would need to prefix the 
> dial up number with 1470, e.g. 1470 0845 0798313
>
> Good luck!
>   

On this, I turned the volume up and it answers the phone just fine.  It
starts the handshake part then connects at 26400 like is usually does. 
The only difference is that BellSouth does not seem to send a login
prompt and my system does know what to do so it just tries to connect
blind as a bat without sending the login/password.

We have caller ID here and it works fine.  My brother who uses windoze
and lives next door uses them and it works fine for them.  I may try it
again to see if anything has changed.  Maybe it needed time to use the
caller ID to see we are allowed to connect.

I'm open to ideas though.  I have tried Kppp, wvdial and pon and get no
joy out of it at all.  No worky.  :-(

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Mick]

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On Friday 01 June 2007 11:51, Dale wrote:

> On this, I turned the volume up and it answers the phone just fine.  It
> starts the handshake part then connects at 26400 like is usually does.
> The only difference is that BellSouth does not seem to send a login
> prompt and my system does know what to do so it just tries to connect
> blind as a bat without sending the login/password.

This indicates that you have set it up to use link control protocol (LCP) 
which is the first part of establishing a PPP link, but BellSouth may be 
using CHAP?

> We have caller ID here and it works fine.  My brother who uses windoze
> and lives next door uses them and it works fine for them.  I may try it
> again to see if anything has changed.  Maybe it needed time to use the
> caller ID to see we are allowed to connect.
>
> I'm open to ideas though.  I have tried Kppp, wvdial and pon and get no
> joy out of it at all.  No worky.  :-(

I assume that you have tried out the different authentication methods in kppp 
(pap/chap and what not).  Not sure if the use of tcpdump and, or wireshark 
would show anything particularly revealing here?  This would be more 
meaningful if you compare with a dial up number that actually works.

From what I understand BellSouth use 'TCP header compression' which I believe 
requires the vj-max-slots option enabled in pppd, but don't know for sure 
what the number should be, if this is enabled by default, etc. (you could try 
from 2 to 16 and see what gives).

Additionally, a chat with the ISPs' sysadmin might help (if need be with 
giving you a login script).  If their system works with OSX which I believe 
it does, it would probably work with Linux too.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Friday 01 June 2007 11:51, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> On this, I turned the volume up and it answers the phone just fine.  It
>> starts the handshake part then connects at 26400 like is usually does.
>> The only difference is that BellSouth does not seem to send a login
>> prompt and my system does know what to do so it just tries to connect
>> blind as a bat without sending the login/password.
>>     
>
> This indicates that you have set it up to use link control protocol (LCP) 
> which is the first part of establishing a PPP link, but BellSouth may be 
> using CHAP?
>
>   
>> We have caller ID here and it works fine.  My brother who uses windoze
>> and lives next door uses them and it works fine for them.  I may try it
>> again to see if anything has changed.  Maybe it needed time to use the
>> caller ID to see we are allowed to connect.
>>
>> I'm open to ideas though.  I have tried Kppp, wvdial and pon and get no
>> joy out of it at all.  No worky.  :-(
>>     
>
> I assume that you have tried out the different authentication methods in kppp 
> (pap/chap and what not).  Not sure if the use of tcpdump and, or wireshark 
> would show anything particularly revealing here?  This would be more 
> meaningful if you compare with a dial up number that actually works.
>
> From what I understand BellSouth use 'TCP header compression' which I believe 
> requires the vj-max-slots option enabled in pppd, but don't know for sure 
> what the number should be, if this is enabled by default, etc. (you could try 
> from 2 to 16 and see what gives).
>
> Additionally, a chat with the ISPs' sysadmin might help (if need be with 
> giving you a login script).  If their system works with OSX which I believe 
> it does, it would probably work with Linux too.  
>   

You may have hit on something good there.  I disabled vj a long time ago
because I was having trouble with it.  I took that out and will try
again.  The funny things is, I used this at my brothers once and it
worked fine.

I'll post back what I find out.

Thanks much.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

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Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
>> On Friday 01 June 2007 11:51, Dale wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> On this, I turned the volume up and it answers the phone just fine.  It
>>> starts the handshake part then connects at 26400 like is usually does.
>>> The only difference is that BellSouth does not seem to send a login
>>> prompt and my system does know what to do so it just tries to connect
>>> blind as a bat without sending the login/password.
>>>     
>>
>> This indicates that you have set it up to use link control protocol (LCP) 
>> which is the first part of establishing a PPP link, but BellSouth may be 
>> using CHAP?
>>
>>   
>>> We have caller ID here and it works fine.  My brother who uses windoze
>>> and lives next door uses them and it works fine for them.  I may try it
>>> again to see if anything has changed.  Maybe it needed time to use the
>>> caller ID to see we are allowed to connect.
>>>
>>> I'm open to ideas though.  I have tried Kppp, wvdial and pon and get no
>>> joy out of it at all.  No worky.  :-(
>>>     
>>
>> I assume that you have tried out the different authentication methods in kppp 
>> (pap/chap and what not).  Not sure if the use of tcpdump and, or wireshark 
>> would show anything particularly revealing here?  This would be more 
>> meaningful if you compare with a dial up number that actually works.
>>
>> >From what I understand BellSouth use 'TCP header compression' which I believe 
>> requires the vj-max-slots option enabled in pppd, but don't know for sure 
>> what the number should be, if this is enabled by default, etc. (you could try 
>> from 2 to 16 and see what gives).
>>
>> Additionally, a chat with the ISPs' sysadmin might help (if need be with 
>> giving you a login script).  If their system works with OSX which I believe 
>> it does, it would probably work with Linux too.  
>>   
>
> You may have hit on something good there.  I disabled vj a long time
> ago because I was having trouble with it.  I took that out and will
> try again.  The funny things is, I used this at my brothers once and
> it worked fine.
>
> I'll post back what I find out.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Dale
>
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Well, that didn't help any.  I also forgot to mention that I do have it
set up on Kppp to use pap/chap.  It doesn't work either.  I don't know
where LCP came from.  Any way to force it to disable that in ppp options?

I'm not sure but maybe it is something to do with my modem.  I had a
different modem when I used my brothers account a long time ago.  That
is all that has changed on my end.

Any more ideas?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Mick]

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On Friday 01 June 2007 23:24, Dale wrote:
> Dale wrote:

> Well, that didn't help any.  I also forgot to mention that I do have it
> set up on Kppp to use pap/chap.  It doesn't work either.  I don't know
> where LCP came from.  Any way to force it to disable that in ppp options?

You can use the option silent so that pppd does not send any LCP packets to 
initiate the connection, until the ISP has sent first a valid LCP packet.

> I'm not sure but maybe it is something to do with my modem.  I had a
> different modem when I used my brothers account a long time ago.  That
> is all that has changed on my end.

I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here!  wvdial shows that you have a V34 
modem, when BellSouth's website talks about how to configure V90 and V92.  
Could it be that you need something <aheam!> more modern?  As far as I can 
figure they say that you should have correction control and compression 
enabled on your modem.  Can yours do that?

Not withstanding the above, your modem only sends packets but seems to receive 
nothing back from your ISP.  Have you changed the serial port, or the serial 
cable, or the serial connector/adaptor to the modem?  If you have by mistake 
used a null modem as opposed to a straight through RS-232 serial cable the 
connection is unlikely to work (properly).

Do you have another modem to try it with?  My ISP connection problems were 
isolated down to the specific modem (which was a winmodem anyway).  When I 
tried with a different modem (still softmodem but with a V.92 std) the 
telephone numbers worked fine.

If none of the above works then I am at a loss.  It'll be down to using 
minicom and building scripts to troubleshoot the connection one step at a 
time . . . may be easier to get a better modem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Friday 01 June 2007 23:24, Dale wrote:
>   
>> Dale wrote:
>>     
>
>   
>> Well, that didn't help any.  I also forgot to mention that I do have it
>> set up on Kppp to use pap/chap.  It doesn't work either.  I don't know
>> where LCP came from.  Any way to force it to disable that in ppp options?
>>     
>
> You can use the option silent so that pppd does not send any LCP packets to 
> initiate the connection, until the ISP has sent first a valid LCP packet.
>
>   
>> I'm not sure but maybe it is something to do with my modem.  I had a
>> different modem when I used my brothers account a long time ago.  That
>> is all that has changed on my end.
>>     
>
> I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here!  wvdial shows that you have a V34 
> modem, when BellSouth's website talks about how to configure V90 and V92.  
> Could it be that you need something <aheam!> more modern?  

Sorry, it is a very old USRobotics V34 Everything modem.  Thing is, I
like all the lights.  LOL
> As far as I can 
> figure they say that you should have correction control and compression 
> enabled on your modem.  Can yours do that?
>   

This thing has a ton of options in it.  But I think the above may be the
issue we are having. 
> Not withstanding the above, your modem only sends packets but seems to receive 
> nothing back from your ISP.  Have you changed the serial port, or the serial 
> cable, or the serial connector/adaptor to the modem?  If you have by mistake 
> used a null modem as opposed to a straight through RS-232 serial cable the 
> connection is unlikely to work (properly).
>
> Do you have another modem to try it with?  

Yup, I do have another modem that is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.  It
works for my bro but not for me.  It doesn't even work with my current
ISP.  It tries to connect at 115K which is more like a serial port
speed.  It seems to be confused, as am I right now.
> My ISP connection problems were 
> isolated down to the specific modem (which was a winmodem anyway).  When I 
> tried with a different modem (still softmodem but with a V.92 std) the 
> telephone numbers worked fine.
>
> If none of the above works then I am at a loss.  It'll be down to using 
> minicom and building scripts to troubleshoot the connection one step at a 
> time . . . may be easier to get a better modem?
>
> Good luck.
>   

This is what I am thinking about getting.  I had this before it got hit
by lightening. 
http://www.discountsales.com/shop/pub/1153574702_1177517624.htm  I am
pretty sure it worked too.  I know it did for my current ISP but I think
I used his ISP a few times too.  I'm pretty sure this works with Bell
South.  Your thoughts???

I may go check with my ISP and see if they have one that is external
serial.  Maybe cheap too.  LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Mick]

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On Saturday 02 June 2007 04:16, Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Friday 01 June 2007 23:24, Dale wrote:

> > As far as I can
> > figure they say that you should have correction control and compression
> > enabled on your modem.  Can yours do that?
>
> This thing has a ton of options in it.  But I think the above may be the
> issue we are having.

Dig out the manual from your bottom draw or the Internet and see how you can 
tweak compression On.

> > Not withstanding the above, your modem only sends packets but seems to
> > receive nothing back from your ISP.  Have you changed the serial port, or
> > the serial cable, or the serial connector/adaptor to the modem?  If you
> > have by mistake used a null modem as opposed to a straight through RS-232
> > serial cable the connection is unlikely to work (properly).
> >
> > Do you have another modem to try it with?
>
> Yup, I do have another modem that is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.  It
> works for my bro but not for me.  It doesn't even work with my current
> ISP.  It tries to connect at 115K which is more like a serial port
> speed.  It seems to be confused, as am I right now.

You can define connection speed through kppp (although I think this is the 
speed between the PC and the modem).  Some AT command will tell the modem how 
fast to try to connect (more digging for a manual here).

> This is what I am thinking about getting.  I had this before it got hit
> by lightening.
> http://www.discountsales.com/shop/pub/1153574702_1177517624.htm  I am
> pretty sure it worked too.  I know it did for my current ISP but I think
> I used his ISP a few times too.  I'm pretty sure this works with Bell
> South.  Your thoughts???

My thoughts are:

a)These days slow ADSL connections are charged as much as dial up Internet 
connections (in the UK it's either 'free' if you buy it as a bundle with a 
telephone service, or as little as £10, say $9.50 a month) - check out what 
BellSouth or other ISPs offer in your area.
b)BellSouth's website recommends specific modems with V.92 spec:
  Zoom Conexant: Model Number 3049C
  Zoom Lucent: Model Number 3049L
  Creative Labs: Modem Blaster V.92 Serial
Try one of those (especially if they are hardware modems, not softmodems) aand 
see how much they may be selling for (thrown away) in ebay.  If these are 
only softmodems then google to find out what chip they have to see if there 
are Linux drivers for it (I'm very happy with ltmodem, not so happy with 
linuxant).
c)If all else fails go for an Actiontec EX560LKA which is a true external 
hardware modem.  Not sure what the one you are showing is and what software 
drivers it might need.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 02 June 2007 04:16, Dale wrote:
>   
>> Mick wrote:
>>     
>>> On Friday 01 June 2007 23:24, Dale wrote:
>>>       
>
>   
>>> As far as I can
>>> figure they say that you should have correction control and compression
>>> enabled on your modem.  Can yours do that?
>>>       
>> This thing has a ton of options in it.  But I think the above may be the
>> issue we are having.
>>     
>
> Dig out the manual from your bottom draw or the Internet and see how you can 
> tweak compression On.
>   

I did do a google search a long time ago when I first got the modem.  It
appears to be so old that there is no manual available.   I just got a
list of the AT commands and poked around.  Blind luck if I recall
correctly.  LOL
>   
>>> Not withstanding the above, your modem only sends packets but seems to
>>> receive nothing back from your ISP.  Have you changed the serial port, or
>>> the serial cable, or the serial connector/adaptor to the modem?  If you
>>> have by mistake used a null modem as opposed to a straight through RS-232
>>> serial cable the connection is unlikely to work (properly).
>>>
>>> Do you have another modem to try it with?
>>>       
>> Yup, I do have another modem that is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.  It
>> works for my bro but not for me.  It doesn't even work with my current
>> ISP.  It tries to connect at 115K which is more like a serial port
>> speed.  It seems to be confused, as am I right now.
>>     
>
> You can define connection speed through kppp (although I think this is the 
> speed between the PC and the modem).  Some AT command will tell the modem how 
> fast to try to connect (more digging for a manual here).
>
>   
>> This is what I am thinking about getting.  I had this before it got hit
>> by lightening.
>> http://www.discountsales.com/shop/pub/1153574702_1177517624.htm  I am
>> pretty sure it worked too.  I know it did for my current ISP but I think
>> I used his ISP a few times too.  I'm pretty sure this works with Bell
>> South.  Your thoughts???
>>     
>
> My thoughts are:
>
> a)These days slow ADSL connections are charged as much as dial up Internet 
> connections (in the UK it's either 'free' if you buy it as a bundle with a 
> telephone service, or as little as £10, say $9.50 a month) - check out what 
> BellSouth or other ISPs offer in your area.
> b)BellSouth's website recommends specific modems with V.92 spec:
>   Zoom Conexant: Model Number 3049C
>   Zoom Lucent: Model Number 3049L
>   Creative Labs: Modem Blaster V.92 Serial
> Try one of those (especially if they are hardware modems, not softmodems) aand 
> see how much they may be selling for (thrown away) in ebay.  If these are 
> only softmodems then google to find out what chip they have to see if there 
> are Linux drivers for it (I'm very happy with ltmodem, not so happy with 
> linuxant).
> c)If all else fails go for an Actiontec EX560LKA which is a true external 
> hardware modem.  Not sure what the one you are showing is and what software 
> drivers it might need.
>   

I wish I could get DSL of any kind out here but it is not available
yet.  The last upgrade we got on our phone service is when we got off
the party line system.  That's where 3 or 4 people share the same phone
line.  Yea, that old.  They killed my apple tree too.  :-@

The link I gave is for the last one, the Actiontec modem.  It is what I
had before and the one that got hit by lightening.  I had to get the
current one as a replacement.  Hey, it was only $10.00.  LOL

I plan to go to my ISP tomorrow and see if they have a newer one.  Wish
me luck.

Thanks for all the help.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Uwe Thiem]

On 02 June 2007, Dale wrote:

> I wish I could get DSL of any kind out here but it is not available
> yet.  The last upgrade we got on our phone service is when we got off
> the party line system.  That's where 3 or 4 people share the same phone
> line.  Yea, that old.  They killed my apple tree too.  :-@

Sounds like Africa! ;-)

> I plan to go to my ISP tomorrow and see if they have a newer one.  Wish
> me luck.

Luck! Luck! Luck!

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Roger Mason]

Hi Dale,

Dale <dalek@exceedtech.net> writes:


>    I wish I could get DSL of any kind out here but it is not available
>    yet.  The last upgrade we got on our phone service is when we got off
>    the party line system.  That's where 3 or 4 people share the same phone
>    line.  Yea, that old.  They killed my apple tree too.  :-@
>    The link I gave is for the last one, the Actiontec modem.  It is what I
>    had before and the one that got hit by lightening.  I had to get the
>    current one as a replacement.  Hey, it was only $10.00.  LOL
>    I plan to go to my ISP tomorrow and see if they have a newer one.  Wish
>    me luck.

You may already have seen this, in which case sorry for the noise:

http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

A number of years ago I followed the steps listed there to get dial-up
into my (Windows centric) university modem pool.

Cheers,
Roger

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Mick]

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On Saturday 02 June 2007 18:44, Roger Mason wrote:

> You may already have seen this, in which case sorry for the noise:
>
> http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

Thanks Roger!  I hadn't met it in my travels, but it seems an exceptionally 
useful document for all things dial up.  :)

Will certainly try it out to troubleshoot my particular problem which is 
different to Dale's.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[maxim wexler]

Scuse me for jumping in mid-thread.

I use old USR serial modems for dialup. I get em at
the local thrift store for 5 bucks. Never had a
problem. The lights _are_ useful. The switches on the
back are set like this:

HHLHLHHL
12345678

Don't use wvdial. Don't use kppp. Use pppconfig. 

HTH

Maxim


       
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

maxim wexler wrote:
> Scuse me for jumping in mid-thread.
>
> I use old USR serial modems for dialup. I get em at
> the local thrift store for 5 bucks. Never had a
> problem. The lights _are_ useful. The switches on the
> back are set like this:
>
> HHLHLHHL
> 12345678
>
> Don't use wvdial. Don't use kppp. Use pppconfig. 
>
> HTH
>
> Maxim
>
>
>   

You're excused.  LOL    I suspect mine is a lot older than the USR you
have.  Bell South is looking for a v.90 or a v.92 compatible modem and
mine is neither of these.  Mine is likely about 20 years old, both from
the features it has and the looks of it.  LOL

I did try wvdial, kppp and pppconfig.  All did the same thing.  I may
give pppconfig a go with the other spare modem though, just to see if it
will do something. 

My dip switch has 10 switches instead of 8 so yours is different.

Thanks for the info. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(

[Dale]

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Dale wrote:
> maxim wexler wrote:
>   
>> Scuse me for jumping in mid-thread.
>>
>> I use old USR serial modems for dialup. I get em at
>> the local thrift store for 5 bucks. Never had a
>> problem. The lights _are_ useful. The switches on the
>> back are set like this:
>>
>> HHLHLHHL
>> 12345678
>>
>> Don't use wvdial. Don't use kppp. Use pppconfig. 
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> You're excused.  LOL    I suspect mine is a lot older than the USR you
> have.  Bell South is looking for a v.90 or a v.92 compatible modem and
> mine is neither of these.  Mine is likely about 20 years old, both from
> the features it has and the looks of it.  LOL
>
> I did try wvdial, kppp and pppconfig.  All did the same thing.  I may
> give pppconfig a go with the other spare modem though, just to see if it
> will do something. 
>
> My dip switch has 10 switches instead of 8 so yours is different.
>
> Thanks for the info. 
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)  :-)
>
>   

OK.  Here is the update.  I also updated the thread on the forums a bit
ago.  I got my new modem.  All $17.55 worth.  LOL  Love that froogle. 
Anyway, it connected a lot better but still gave me a user name /
password error.  So, I called and checked with Bell South and they reset
my password.  After that, it connected and has worked fine.  Please
note, it did try to send my user name and password where before it did
not.  The modem was part of the problem but they had something messed up
on their end too.  I am getting the same error for my email and I plan
to call them on that next.

So, thanks to everyone for the replies and their help.  We got it
figured out and I am up and running.  I'm still keeping a eye on the new
phone box up the road.  I am hoping to get DSL soon.  They got the
concrete slab poured.  < thumbs up >

Thanks everyone.

Dale

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