From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HuKBX-00030l-4d for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:21:47 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l523KY62008771; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 03:20:34 GMT Received: from mirus.exceedtech.net (ns0.exceedtech.net [70.151.169.5]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l523GKaU004120 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 03:16:20 GMT Received: from [4.231.93.59] (dialup-4.231.93.59.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.231.93.59]) by mirus.exceedtech.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l523GFqj021681 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 22:16:16 -0500 Message-ID: <4660E0FF.8090003@exceedtech.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:16:15 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070504 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-( References: <465CB662.2030405@exceedtech.net> <46607428.10406@exceedtech.net> <46609C8E.2060704@exceedtech.net> <200706020053.13957.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200706020053.13957.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080209020000050001060905" X-Archives-Salt: 8e2e499a-60d2-45c4-a0b0-94446b570f8e X-Archives-Hash: 835ed5ed0536df93701d197af57514e1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080209020000050001060905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mick wrote: > On Friday 01 June 2007 23:24, Dale wrote: > >> Dale wrote: >> > > >> Well, that didn't help any. I also forgot to mention that I do have it >> set up on Kppp to use pap/chap. It doesn't work either. I don't know >> where LCP came from. Any way to force it to disable that in ppp options? >> > > You can use the option silent so that pppd does not send any LCP packets to > initiate the connection, until the ISP has sent first a valid LCP packet. > > >> I'm not sure but maybe it is something to do with my modem. I had a >> different modem when I used my brothers account a long time ago. That >> is all that has changed on my end. >> > > I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here! wvdial shows that you have a V34 > modem, when BellSouth's website talks about how to configure V90 and V92. > Could it be that you need something more modern? Sorry, it is a very old USRobotics V34 Everything modem. Thing is, I like all the lights. LOL > As far as I can > figure they say that you should have correction control and compression > enabled on your modem. Can yours do that? > This thing has a ton of options in it. But I think the above may be the issue we are having. > Not withstanding the above, your modem only sends packets but seems to receive > nothing back from your ISP. Have you changed the serial port, or the serial > cable, or the serial connector/adaptor to the modem? If you have by mistake > used a null modem as opposed to a straight through RS-232 serial cable the > connection is unlikely to work (properly). > > Do you have another modem to try it with? Yup, I do have another modem that is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO. It works for my bro but not for me. It doesn't even work with my current ISP. It tries to connect at 115K which is more like a serial port speed. It seems to be confused, as am I right now. > My ISP connection problems were > isolated down to the specific modem (which was a winmodem anyway). When I > tried with a different modem (still softmodem but with a V.92 std) the > telephone numbers worked fine. > > If none of the above works then I am at a loss. It'll be down to using > minicom and building scripts to troubleshoot the connection one step at a > time . . . may be easier to get a better modem? > > Good luck. > This is what I am thinking about getting. I had this before it got hit by lightening. http://www.discountsales.com/shop/pub/1153574702_1177517624.htm I am pretty sure it worked too. I know it did for my current ISP but I think I used his ISP a few times too. I'm pretty sure this works with Bell South. Your thoughts??? I may go check with my ISP and see if they have one that is external serial. Maybe cheap too. LOL Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part. --------------080209020000050001060905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mick wrote:
On Friday 01 June 2007 23:24, Dale wrote:
  
Dale wrote:
    

  
Well, that didn't help any.  I also forgot to mention that I do have it
set up on Kppp to use pap/chap.  It doesn't work either.  I don't know
where LCP came from.  Any way to force it to disable that in ppp options?
    

You can use the option silent so that pppd does not send any LCP packets to 
initiate the connection, until the ISP has sent first a valid LCP packet.

  
I'm not sure but maybe it is something to do with my modem.  I had a
different modem when I used my brothers account a long time ago.  That
is all that has changed on my end.
    

I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here!  wvdial shows that you have a V34 
modem, when BellSouth's website talks about how to configure V90 and V92.  
Could it be that you need something <aheam!> more modern?  

Sorry, it is a very old USRobotics V34 Everything modem.  Thing is, I like all the lights.  LOL
As far as I can 
figure they say that you should have correction control and compression 
enabled on your modem.  Can yours do that?
  

This thing has a ton of options in it.  But I think the above may be the issue we are having. 
Not withstanding the above, your modem only sends packets but seems to receive 
nothing back from your ISP.  Have you changed the serial port, or the serial 
cable, or the serial connector/adaptor to the modem?  If you have by mistake 
used a null modem as opposed to a straight through RS-232 serial cable the 
connection is unlikely to work (properly).

Do you have another modem to try it with?  

Yup, I do have another modem that is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO.  It works for my bro but not for me.  It doesn't even work with my current ISP.  It tries to connect at 115K which is more like a serial port speed.  It seems to be confused, as am I right now.
My ISP connection problems were 
isolated down to the specific modem (which was a winmodem anyway).  When I 
tried with a different modem (still softmodem but with a V.92 std) the 
telephone numbers worked fine.

If none of the above works then I am at a loss.  It'll be down to using 
minicom and building scripts to troubleshoot the connection one step at a 
time . . . may be easier to get a better modem?

Good luck.
  

This is what I am thinking about getting.  I had this before it got hit by lightening.  http://www.discountsales.com/shop/pub/1153574702_1177517624.htm  I am pretty sure it worked too.  I know it did for my current ISP but I think I used his ISP a few times too.  I'm pretty sure this works with Bell South.  Your thoughts???

I may go check with my ISP and see if they have one that is external serial.  Maybe cheap too.  LOL

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

-- 
www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967

Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
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