From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HuFd0-0006RX-RS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:29:51 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l51MSZsW000522; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 22:28:35 GMT Received: from mirus.exceedtech.net (ns0.exceedtech.net [70.151.169.5]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l51MOKKt028241 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 22:24:21 GMT Received: from [4.231.94.232] (dialup-4.231.94.232.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.231.94.232]) by mirus.exceedtech.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l51MOFqj017554 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:24:16 -0500 Message-ID: <46609C8E.2060704@exceedtech.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:24:14 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070504 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-( References: <465CB662.2030405@exceedtech.net> <200706011121.20821.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <465FFA49.20708@exceedtech.net> <200706011458.20815.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <46607428.10406@exceedtech.net> In-Reply-To: <46607428.10406@exceedtech.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060603000303000708030203" X-Archives-Salt: 3c95db39-58e2-4c58-a9d5-c0b48d4c5cf7 X-Archives-Hash: 6d653103a456941610a31d42f8880984 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060603000303000708030203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: >> On Friday 01 June 2007 11:51, Dale wrote: >> >> >>> On this, I turned the volume up and it answers the phone just fine. It >>> starts the handshake part then connects at 26400 like is usually does. >>> The only difference is that BellSouth does not seem to send a login >>> prompt and my system does know what to do so it just tries to connect >>> blind as a bat without sending the login/password. >>> >> >> This indicates that you have set it up to use link control protocol (LCP) >> which is the first part of establishing a PPP link, but BellSouth may be >> using CHAP? >> >> >>> We have caller ID here and it works fine. My brother who uses windoze >>> and lives next door uses them and it works fine for them. I may try it >>> again to see if anything has changed. Maybe it needed time to use the >>> caller ID to see we are allowed to connect. >>> >>> I'm open to ideas though. I have tried Kppp, wvdial and pon and get no >>> joy out of it at all. No worky. :-( >>> >> >> I assume that you have tried out the different authentication methods in kppp >> (pap/chap and what not). Not sure if the use of tcpdump and, or wireshark >> would show anything particularly revealing here? This would be more >> meaningful if you compare with a dial up number that actually works. >> >> >From what I understand BellSouth use 'TCP header compression' which I believe >> requires the vj-max-slots option enabled in pppd, but don't know for sure >> what the number should be, if this is enabled by default, etc. (you could try >> from 2 to 16 and see what gives). >> >> Additionally, a chat with the ISPs' sysadmin might help (if need be with >> giving you a login script). If their system works with OSX which I believe >> it does, it would probably work with Linux too. >> > > You may have hit on something good there. I disabled vj a long time > ago because I was having trouble with it. I took that out and will > try again. The funny things is, I used this at my brothers once and > it worked fine. > > I'll post back what I find out. > > Thanks much. > > Dale > > :-) :-) :-) > > -- > www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 > > Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part. Well, that didn't help any. I also forgot to mention that I do have it set up on Kppp to use pap/chap. It doesn't work either. I don't know where LCP came from. Any way to force it to disable that in ppp options? I'm not sure but maybe it is something to do with my modem. I had a different modem when I used my brothers account a long time ago. That is all that has changed on my end. Any more ideas? Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part. --------------060603000303000708030203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale wrote:
Mick wrote: 
On Friday 01 June 2007 11:51, Dale wrote:

  
On this, I turned the volume up and it answers the phone just fine.  It
starts the handshake part then connects at 26400 like is usually does.
The only difference is that BellSouth does not seem to send a login
prompt and my system does know what to do so it just tries to connect
blind as a bat without sending the login/password.
    

This indicates that you have set it up to use link control protocol (LCP) 
which is the first part of establishing a PPP link, but BellSouth may be 
using CHAP?

  
We have caller ID here and it works fine.  My brother who uses windoze
and lives next door uses them and it works fine for them.  I may try it
again to see if anything has changed.  Maybe it needed time to use the
caller ID to see we are allowed to connect.

I'm open to ideas though.  I have tried Kppp, wvdial and pon and get no
joy out of it at all.  No worky.  :-(
    

I assume that you have tried out the different authentication methods in kppp 
(pap/chap and what not).  Not sure if the use of tcpdump and, or wireshark 
would show anything particularly revealing here?  This would be more 
meaningful if you compare with a dial up number that actually works.

>From what I understand BellSouth use 'TCP header compression' which I believe 
requires the vj-max-slots option enabled in pppd, but don't know for sure 
what the number should be, if this is enabled by default, etc. (you could try 
from 2 to 16 and see what gives).

Additionally, a chat with the ISPs' sysadmin might help (if need be with 
giving you a login script).  If their system works with OSX which I believe 
it does, it would probably work with Linux too.

You may have hit on something good there.  I disabled vj a long time ago because I was having trouble with it.  I took that out and will try again.  The funny things is, I used this at my brothers once and it worked fine.

I'll post back what I find out.

Thanks much.

Dale

:-) :-) :-) 

-- 
www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967

Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.

Well, that didn't help any.  I also forgot to mention that I do have it set up on Kppp to use pap/chap.  It doesn't work either.  I don't know where LCP came from.  Any way to force it to disable that in ppp options?

I'm not sure but maybe it is something to do with my modem.  I had a different modem when I used my brothers account a long time ago.  That is all that has changed on my end.

Any more ideas?

Dale

:-) :-) :-) :-) 

-- 
www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967

Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
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