Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

["J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>]

Sorry for double post...
Kmail:5 doesn't show email as being sent....

Will check again after full synchronisation. (Mailfolder is quite large)


On December 29, 2016 6:54:33 PM GMT+01:00, "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org> wrote:
>On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:11:27 AM CET J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey 
><peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> >> More important, how is the latest kmail behaving?
>> >
>> >My first impression is one of horror. It's ghastly!
>> >
>> >I've never seen such profligate waste of screen space. I've attached
>a
>> >couple of screen shots to show you what I mean.
>> >
>> >Take the folder list, for example. I used to be able to show all
>those
>> >folders in one panel with no scroll-bars, with no difficulty reading
>> >them;
>> >now eight folders spill over. I may be able to find a more compact
>> >arrangement but this is the best I've managed so far. At least with
>> >kmail:4
>> >I could tweak Qt settings to condense it; now nothing I do makes any
>> >improvement.
>> >
>> >Then the message view. Message.png shows what your message looks
>like
>> >in
>> >this version of KMail (the message I'm replying to now). This is
>with
>> >all
>> >the bells and whistles I can find switched off.
>> >
>> >Next, after I'd emerged kde-apps/kmai-16.12.0, it was incomplete. I
>had
>> >to
>> >install several other packages to complete it, including the import
>> >wizard.
>> >Rather than messing about, I just emerged kdepim-meta and had done
>with
>> >it.
>> >
>> >Even after doing that, I get "No backend available for spell
>checking,"
>> >even
>> >though I've set everything up that I can see. Myspell and hunspell
>are
>> >both
>> >installed.
>> >
>> >In the message list I have next-to-no control over the font. I can
>set
>> >the
>> >basic one, but not those for unread, important or action items.
>They're
>> >now
>> >displayed in a reduced-density form of the basic font (while
>pretending
>> >
>> >they're going to use the same font as the message itself). The
>> >designers
>> >evidently know what I want better than I do (anyone might think this
>> >was
>> >Gnome).
>> >
>> >Nothing to do with KMail, but the display of gkrellm has changed
>> >dramatically. I use its Invisible theme, which hasn't actually been
>> >invisible since the switch from KDE-3 to 4, but it had a plain,
>> >unobtrusive
>> >grey scheme and showed what I wanted to see, clearly and with no
>drama.
>> >Now,
>> >the chart backgrounds have changed from charcoal-grey to a dark red,
>> >and
>> >what was grey is now a dreadful salmon-pink. Of course I can't see
>the
>> >red
>> >traces any longer. Perhaps I'm missing a KDE or Qt component.
>> >
>> >Oh, and when I start a reboot in KDE, akonadi crashes with a
>> >segmentation
>> >fault.
>> >
>> >I dare say version 16.12.0 of KMail-2 will make a decent platform
>for
>> >development, now that it's finally here, but a very great deal of
>work
>> >lies
>> >ahead. I can see that I'll be doing my fair share of shouting too,
>at
>> >it and
>> >at the devs.
>> >
>> >It's taken me about 30 hours to get this far. I ditched the old
>system
>> >altogether and built a new one on the kde-plasma profile. I didn't
>ask
>> >for
>> >anything in a slot 4, just slot 5 versions. I also ditched my old
>user
>> >and
>> >set up a new one from scratch. Headache? What headache?
>> >
>> >I think I'll have to go down the pub to drown my sorrows.
>> 
>> My impressions will start here. Emailing using mobile while the IMAP
>mail is
>> being synchronised. That usually takes a few hours.
>> 
>> Although that does appear to go faster now. I normally use Kontact
>for the
>> whole shebang. And it looks similar to version 4.
>> 
>> The upgrade went quite smoothly, with a very rigorous cleaning
>exercise of
>> anything wanting older versions. Am expecting some possible issues
>when
>> reinstalling those. But will see how that goes later today.
>> 
>> Full upgrade only took a couple of hours this morning.
>> 
>> --
>> Joost
>
>Ok, update time.
>I haven't been able to do much with it today as I had to go to the
>office.
>
>When I came back, various stuff had failed, but this is due to
>synchronizing 
>all email (old offline-imap option) to the desktop and the
>home-partition had 
>filled up.
>I cleaned up all the kdepim config-files and the database tables again
>and 
>started kontact with a clean config. It is, again, synchronizing.
>
>I did not experience any crashes of akonadi or kontact during normal
>use and 
>shutting down of applications (including akonadictl stop). 
>With the exception of what I mentioned before, which can not be blamed
>on 
>akonadi.
>
>Things I like so far:
>- Synchronisation seems to be faster, so is the rest of the interface.
>- Synchronisation of groupdav is smoother
>- There finally is a decent option to connect to office365 (including
>calendar)
>(with the above, I have only tested loading data, not tested modifying 
>anything yet)
>
>Things I miss:
>- A configuration option inside "systemsettings", can not find the kcm
>for 
>akonadi:5.
>- I can't find the little "-" icons which were present in the
>screenshots from 
>Peter Humphrey. I was actually hoping to test those, but they don't
>appear.
>
>Things I don't like so far:
>- The default colour scheme (unread emails are by default a very
>light-colour 
>blue, I prefer the old colourscheme.
>- Having to get rid of kmymoney due to incompatible libraries. (Why
>does a 
>financial app have a hard-dependency on kdepimlibs????)
>
>More updates are likely to follow, if people are actually interested.
>
>The update to the current in-portage-tree version went quite smoothly
>once the 
>blocking packages were identified and removed. (All of kdepim:4 needs
>to be 
>removed first for portage to be able to identify all required
>keyword-changes)
>This was mostly due to running a mixed stable and unstable setup.
>
>If anyone is interested, I can provide the full keyword file I used.
>
>--
>Joost


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