[gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[James]

https://freeswitch.org/


Seems to be opensource. Runs on Arm (rpi) and x86 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSWITCH

Is there something similar in portage?

Anyone tested this on debian or any other linux distro?

Folks interested in an ebuild for this software?


curiously,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[covici]

James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> https://freeswitch.org/
> 
> 
> Seems to be opensource. Runs on Arm (rpi) and x86 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSWITCH
> 
> Is there something similar in portage?
> 
> Anyone tested this on debian or any other linux distro?
> 
> Folks interested in an ebuild for this software?
> 

I use it all the time on gentoo, but watch out for its dependencies.  I
had to downgrade ffmpeg to 2.72 before I could get fs to compile and
they are not interested in supporting gentoo.  Their development systems
are Debian Jessie.


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[gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[James]

 <covici <at> ccs.covici.com> writes:


> > https://freeswitch.org/


> > Folks interested in an ebuild for this software?

> I use it all the time on gentoo, but watch out for its dependencies. 

Good to know.


> I had to downgrade ffmpeg to 2.72 before I could get fs to compile and
> they are not interested in supporting gentoo.  Their development systems
> are Debian Jessie.


How do you install freeswitch, just a raw compile from sources? 
Or is there an ebuild somewhere that I   missed?

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[covici]

James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>  <covici <at> ccs.covici.com> writes:
> 
> 
> > > https://freeswitch.org/
> 
> 
> > > Folks interested in an ebuild for this software?
> 
> > I use it all the time on gentoo, but watch out for its dependencies. 
> 
> Good to know.
> 
> 
> > I had to downgrade ffmpeg to 2.72 before I could get fs to compile and
> > they are not interested in supporting gentoo.  Their development systems
> > are Debian Jessie.
> 
> 
> How do you install freeswitch, just a raw compile from sources? 
> Or is there an ebuild somewhere that I   missed?

I just did the configure, make, make install combination, it by default
installs in /usr/local/freeswitch -- even the binaries, so its somewhat
isolated.  but check the docs first, you will need some libraries which
are not in gentoo and must be gotten from their repository just to
build.  I think I had to download and install a dozen packages from
source.


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[gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[James]

 <covici <at> ccs.covici.com> writes:


> > How do you install freeswitch, just a raw compile from sources? 
> > Or is there an ebuild somewhere that I   missed?

> I just did the configure, make, make install combination, it by default
> installs in /usr/local/freeswitch -- even the binaries, so its somewhat
> isolated.  but check the docs first, you will need some libraries which
> are not in gentoo and must be gotten from their repository just to
> build.  I think I had to download and install a dozen packages from
> source.

Thanks for the info. Did you every file a bug to have an ebuild created?
BGO searching did not find one and freeswitch just seems like a cool
software to add to gentoo.

Oh, I almost forget to mention:: what caught my eye was that I ran
across instructions for installation on a Raspberry Pi 2 [1].
And was wondering if  a larger pbx (ip-switch) could be built
by clustering Rpi3 devices together?

Lots of projects seem to be centric on Rpi3 clusters these days. [2]
Thanks again for the feedback.

James

[1]
http://www.algissalys.com/how-to/freeswitch-1-7-raspberry-pi-2-voip-sip-server

[2] https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/pi-spark-supercomputer/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[Meik Frischke]

Am 2016-04-27 16:12, schrieb James:
> <covici <at> ccs.covici.com> writes:
> 
> 
>> > How do you install freeswitch, just a raw compile from sources?
>> > Or is there an ebuild somewhere that I   missed?
> 
>> I just did the configure, make, make install combination, it by 
>> default
>> installs in /usr/local/freeswitch -- even the binaries, so its 
>> somewhat
>> isolated.  but check the docs first, you will need some libraries 
>> which
>> are not in gentoo and must be gotten from their repository just to
>> build.  I think I had to download and install a dozen packages from
>> source.
> 
> Thanks for the info. Did you every file a bug to have an ebuild 
> created?
> BGO searching did not find one and freeswitch just seems like a cool
> software to add to gentoo.
> 
> Oh, I almost forget to mention:: what caught my eye was that I ran
> across instructions for installation on a Raspberry Pi 2 [1].
> And was wondering if  a larger pbx (ip-switch) could be built
> by clustering Rpi3 devices together?
> 
> Lots of projects seem to be centric on Rpi3 clusters these days. [2]
> Thanks again for the feedback.
> 
> James
> 
> [1]
> http://www.algissalys.com/how-to/freeswitch-1-7-raspberry-pi-2-voip-sip-server
> 
> [2] https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/pi-spark-supercomputer/

There is the Freeswitch overlay available [1], also listed here [2], 
which can be added with layman. The provided ebuild is a little outdated 
though (1.6.2 vs currently 1.6.7). It can probably be adapted for the 
current version, but I havn't tried it yet.

Meik

[1] 
https://github.com/alphallc/freeswitch/tree/master/net-voip/freeswitch
[2] https://overlays.gentoo.org/

Re: [gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[Michael Mol]

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On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 03:21:38 AM James wrote:
> https://freeswitch.org/
> 
> 
> Seems to be opensource. Runs on Arm (rpi) and x86
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSWITCH
> 
> Is there something similar in portage?
> 
> Anyone tested this on debian or any other linux distro?
> 
> Folks interested in an ebuild for this software?

I have a Freeswitch install on a (non-Gentoo) box at a client. That client has 
recently moved to a different PBX product. I will not willingly install another 
Freeswitch setup, and my full rant as to why would be a multi-part blog post.

My recommendation would be to use sip-proxy if it meets your needs, Asterisk 
or Kamailio if you need something heavier.

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Re: [gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[Stroller]

> On Wed, 27 April 2016, at 3:21 pm, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> I have a Freeswitch install on a (non-Gentoo) box at a client. That client has 
> recently moved to a different PBX product. I will not willingly install another 
> Freeswitch setup, and my full rant as to why would be a multi-part blog post.

I really want to read this.

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[Max R.D. Parmer]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016, at 15:17, Stroller wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 27 April 2016, at 3:21 pm, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > I have a Freeswitch install on a (non-Gentoo) box at a client. That client has 
> > recently moved to a different PBX product. I will not willingly install another 
> > Freeswitch setup, and my full rant as to why would be a multi-part blog post.
> 
> I really want to read this.
> 
> Stroller.
> 
> 

I would also be interested (if it helps to know you'd have an audience).

I've been looking at freeswitch and asterisk for an OSTN implementation.
At a glance, freeswitch seemed like it might be the better design (but
surely experience tells the real story). I'll give kamailio a look now
too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[J. Roeleveld]

On April 28, 2016 12:48:36 AM GMT+02:00, "Max R.D. Parmer" <maxp@trystero.is> wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 27, 2016, at 15:17, Stroller wrote:
>> 
>> > On Wed, 27 April 2016, at 3:21 pm, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> > ...
>> > I have a Freeswitch install on a (non-Gentoo) box at a client. That
>client has 
>> > recently moved to a different PBX product. I will not willingly
>install another 
>> > Freeswitch setup, and my full rant as to why would be a multi-part
>blog post.
>> 
>> I really want to read this.
>> 
>> Stroller.
>> 
>> 
>
>I would also be interested (if it helps to know you'd have an
>audience).
>
>I've been looking at freeswitch and asterisk for an OSTN
>implementation.
>At a glance, freeswitch seemed like it might be the better design (but
>surely experience tells the real story). I'll give kamailio a look now
>too.
>
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Same here. Would love to read this.

I ended up getting an appliance, rather than building it myself due to time and cost constraints.

But for a different location I am thinking of doing it myself. And from the description, Freeswitch sounds nice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[covici]

J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org> wrote:

> On April 28, 2016 12:48:36 AM GMT+02:00, "Max R.D. Parmer" <maxp@trystero.is> wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 27, 2016, at 15:17, Stroller wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Wed, 27 April 2016, at 3:21 pm, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >> > ...
> >> > I have a Freeswitch install on a (non-Gentoo) box at a client. That
> >client has 
> >> > recently moved to a different PBX product. I will not willingly
> >install another 
> >> > Freeswitch setup, and my full rant as to why would be a multi-part
> >blog post.
> >> 
> >> I really want to read this.
> >> 
> >> Stroller.
> >> 
> >> 
> >
> >I would also be interested (if it helps to know you'd have an
> >audience).
> >
> >I've been looking at freeswitch and asterisk for an OSTN
> >implementation.
> >At a glance, freeswitch seemed like it might be the better design (but
> >surely experience tells the real story). I'll give kamailio a look now
> >too.
> >
> >--
> >0x7D964D3361142ACF
> 
> Same here. Would love to read this.
> 
> I ended up getting an appliance, rather than building it myself due to time and cost constraints.
> 
> But for a different location I am thinking of doing it myself. And from the description, Freeswitch sounds nice.

I use freeswitch here all the time as my home pbx and it does things
asterisk either cannot do, or only with great difficulty.  I can even
put c# code in it using mono and a lot of times the xml is insufficient
and this is where this comes in handy.  There is a mailing list, so you
can ask questions as well.  Its one strength and also weakness is there
are a lot of variables, some of which are poorly documented, and some
not documented at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] freeSwitch

[Michael Mol]

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On Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:26:31 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On April 28, 2016 12:48:36 AM GMT+02:00, "Max R.D. Parmer" 
<maxp@trystero.is> wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 27, 2016, at 15:17, Stroller wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 27 April 2016, at 3:21 pm, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
> >
> >wrote:
> >> > ...
> >> > I have a Freeswitch install on a (non-Gentoo) box at a client. That
> >
> >client has
> >
> >> > recently moved to a different PBX product. I will not willingly
> >
> >install another
> >
> >> > Freeswitch setup, and my full rant as to why would be a multi-part
> >
> >blog post.
> >
> >> I really want to read this.
> >> 
> >> Stroller.
> >
> >I would also be interested (if it helps to know you'd have an
> >audience).
> >
> >I've been looking at freeswitch and asterisk for an OSTN
> >implementation.
> >At a glance, freeswitch seemed like it might be the better design (but
> >surely experience tells the real story). I'll give kamailio a look now
> >too.
> >
> >--
> >0x7D964D3361142ACF
> 
> Same here. Would love to read this.
> 
> I ended up getting an appliance, rather than building it myself due to time
> and cost constraints.
> 
> But for a different location I am thinking of doing it myself. And from the
> description, Freeswitch sounds nice.

Bah. So you guys aren't going to let me get away with trash-talking without 
some accountability of details. OK. I'll let you know when I've written up 
something; I've already emailed one person a handful of my complaints in 
bullet form. But that'd need to get more properly fleshed out before I drop it 
somewhere more archival in nature.

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[gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[James]

Michael Mol <mikemol <at> gmail.com> writes:


> Bah. So you guys aren't going to let me get away with trash-talking without 
> some accountability of details. OK. I'll let you know when I've written up 
> something; I've already emailed one person a handful of my complaints in 
> bullet form. But that'd need to get more properly fleshed out before I 
> drop it somewhere more archival in nature.

Like I said, it's GOOD to have you back, brah.....


> I use freeswitch here all the time as my home pbx and it does things
> asterisk either cannot do, or only with great difficulty.  I can even
> put c# code in it using mono and a lot of times the xml is insufficient
> and this is where this comes in handy.  There is a mailing list, so you
> can ask questions as well.  Its one strength and also weakness is there
> are a lot of variables, some of which are poorly documented, and some
> not documented at all.

Perhaps we need some code help, to join our team. Sinced MM has deep
experience with shrot comings and other like what works form them, do
we have a quorum?

YES, methinks....

Perhaps someone familiar with the ebuild, could ask the ebuild creator to
update to the latest version? Perhaps a gentoo dev will put it
into a github for closer inspection? Perhaps a lead coder will emerge
to help us along the way?


Me, the real-time (low latency) needs of all things voice and video 
on a gentoo clusters make these sorts of codes very useful to test
gentoo cluster configurations and flesh out kernel optimization issues.
Since they support arm64v8 this is actually a very enticing venture to
put this on arm64 too and see just how many threads and just how fast it
will run.

Count me in, too.

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[Michael Mol]

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On Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:06:50 PM James wrote:
> Michael Mol <mikemol <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > Bah. So you guys aren't going to let me get away with trash-talking
> > without
> > some accountability of details. OK. I'll let you know when I've written up
> > something; I've already emailed one person a handful of my complaints in
> > bullet form. But that'd need to get more properly fleshed out before I
> > drop it somewhere more archival in nature.
> 
> Like I said, it's GOOD to have you back, brah.....

Hey, the major reason for my absence was / is *time*. So the more time 
investment I have to make, the less likely I am to speak up in the first place. 
;)

> 
> > I use freeswitch here all the time as my home pbx and it does things
> > asterisk either cannot do, or only with great difficulty.  I can even
> > put c# code in it using mono and a lot of times the xml is insufficient
> > and this is where this comes in handy.  There is a mailing list, so you
> > can ask questions as well.  Its one strength and also weakness is there
> > are a lot of variables, some of which are poorly documented, and some
> > not documented at all.
> 
> Perhaps we need some code help, to join our team. Sinced MM has deep
> experience with shrot comings and other like what works form them, do
> we have a quorum?

To be clear, 80% of my grievances with FreeSwitch have to do with the nature 
of their configuration and documentation. 9% had to do with a weird issue 
wherin we wound up rebooting the VM containing FS on a schedule; none of my 
instrumentation made it obvious what the nature of the leak was, but somehow 
rebooting the VM would resolve the issue. The remaining 1% was the difficulty in 
setting the thing up for anything but their preferred platform.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:38:12 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:

> To be clear, 80% of my grievances with FreeSwitch have to do with the
> nature of their configuration and documentation. 9% had to do with a
> weird issue wherin we wound up rebooting the VM containing FS on a
> schedule; none of my instrumentation made it obvious what the nature of
> the leak was, but somehow rebooting the VM would resolve the issue. The
> remaining 1% was the difficulty in setting the thing up for anything
> but their preferred platform.

I take it the other 10% was rounding errors? ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[Michael Mol]

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On Thursday, April 28, 2016 08:24:47 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:38:12 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> > To be clear, 80% of my grievances with FreeSwitch have to do with the
> > nature of their configuration and documentation. 9% had to do with a
> > weird issue wherin we wound up rebooting the VM containing FS on a
> > schedule; none of my instrumentation made it obvious what the nature of
> > the leak was, but somehow rebooting the VM would resolve the issue. The
> > remaining 1% was the difficulty in setting the thing up for anything
> > but their preferred platform.
> 
> I take it the other 10% was rounding errors? ;-)

Covered by NDA. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:32:37 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:

> > I take it the other 10% was rounding errors? ;-)  
> 
> Covered by NDA. ;)

Non-Decimal Addition?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeSwitch

[Michael Mol]

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On Thursday, April 28, 2016 08:37:14 PM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:32:37 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> > > I take it the other 10% was rounding errors? ;-)
> > 
> > Covered by NDA. ;)
> 
> Non-Decimal Addition?

Actually, part of what annoyed me about it was driven / exacerbated by things 
I honestly can't discuss. But, yes, that was intended to be roughly 10%.

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