[gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

[gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

[Roy Wright]

Howdy,

First I'm running ~x86 with the Xeffects overlay (Beryl-9999 on nvidia).

When doing a emerge -uDNav world, I had missed that the kdelibs-3.5.6-r7
being updated was from portage instead of from the xeffects overlay.
This caused kicker to crash first time I'd clicked on an icon.

OK, no problem, I just logged in using gnome-2.16.2 for a day, while
compiling
kdelibs from the overlay.

Now I'm back into KDE and kicker is no longer crashing.

But all my nicely arranged K menus are gone, replaced by the unorganized
mess that looks like the default gnome menus.

Is there any way to recover?  Or do I just have to take the hour or two
and recreate my menu structure?

Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers?
If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure?  Or a way to tell gnome
to use kde menu structure?

Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
disk.  Any good references?

TIA,
Roy

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 30 April 2007, Roy Wright wrote:
> Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
> disk.  Any good references?

You will probably get a good reply long before you read this (tomorrow 
is a public holiday in my country and I won't be online) but here goes:

KDE and Gnome use the freedesktop menu structure, it is documented at 
http://www.freedesktop.org in the Standards section. IIRC the document 
is called xdg-something...

Anyways, the menus are not a simple structure, they consist of 
system-wide and user-specific XML menu files with .desktop files are 
the individual elements in the menu. 

The system wide stuff is usually in /etc/xdg or /usr/kde/3.5/etc/xdg/
The user-specific stuff is usually in ~/kde or other places...

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

[Abhay Kedia]

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On Monday 30 Apr 2007 10:57:08 pm Roy Wright wrote:
>
> Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers?
> If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure?  Or a way to tell gnome
> to use kde menu structure?
>
I can't help much as I don't run GNOME along with KDE but this menu looks nice 
for people who do
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(source)?content=31025

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Abhay

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

[darren kirby]

quoth the Roy Wright:

> Is there any way to recover?  Or do I just have to take the hour or two
> and recreate my menu structure?

Perhaps try kappfinder...or perhaps use the desktop settings wizard to change 
back to default state if kappfinder doesn't work.

> Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers?
> If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure?  Or a way to tell gnome
> to use kde menu structure?

I believe this is because of the 'freedesktop' standard[1] or whatever. From 
what I have gleamed from various mailing lists it creates more clashes than 
integration (I cannot speak personally on this as I don't run Gnome). Though, 
I of course may be wrong here.

> Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
> disk.  Any good references?

Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk

As for docs on this: ???...

> TIA,
> Roy

[1] http://freedesktop.org/wiki

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

[Elias Probst]

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On Monday 30 April 2007 23:18:00 darren kirby wrote:
> quoth the Roy Wright:
> > Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
> > disk.  Any good references?
>
> Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk

Take also a look at ~/.local/share/applnk

Regards, Elias P.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved]KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

[Roy Wright]

Elias Probst wrote:
> On Monday 30 April 2007 23:18:00 darren kirby wrote:
>   
>> quoth the Roy Wright:
>>     
>>> Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
>>> disk.  Any good references?
>>>       
>> Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk
>>     
>
> Take also a look at ~/.local/share/applnk
>
> Regards, Elias P.
>   


Howdy,

I found some documentation at:  http://docs.kde.org/userguide/kde-menu.html

After poking around a little, I decided to just start rebuilding the
menus, so
first ran kappfinder, did an apply, then magically all my menus were back!

FYI, these files were changed by kappfinder:

./.kde3.5/share/config/kdeglobals
./.kde3.5/share/config/kwinrulesrc


Thank you,
Roy
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