Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Michael Sullivan]

I'm 27 (I think).
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 12:07 +0000, Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[mereandor]

Am Freitag 13 April 2007 15:24 schrieb Vikas Kumar:
> On 12:07 Fri 13 Apr     , Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> > Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone
>
> youngest among all the previous mailors, 23 --> 24 this may :)

not anymore: 20
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[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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> not anymore: 20

I still remember me answering "I'm 15!" and everybody would just laugh :)

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[Fabrício L. Ribeiro]

On 4/13/07, Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au <Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?


I'm 24 recently completed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Roman Zimmermann]

Am Freitag 13 April 2007 15:42 schrieb Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman:
> mereandor wrote:
> > not anymore: 20
>
> I still remember me answering "I'm 15!" and everybody would just laugh :)
>
In not using gentoo that long. Just started previous summer but learning 
fast. ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Davi]

Em Sexta 13 Abril 2007 11:36, Rodrigo Forlin escreveu:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote this:
> > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

20, using Linux since 2000
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[Francisco Rivas]

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I was started with ESware 1.0, RedHat 5.1, Mandrake, then SuSE
6.3/7.x//9.x/10.x,
Debian (Woody and Sagre) and finally and so so so happy Gentoo... I feel
tempted to touch Arch Linux.

Please let me know who is happy with your distributions?... :D it's an
obvious question :D

I am :D

On 4/13/07, Davi <davividal@siscompar.com.br> wrote:
>
> Em Sexta 13 Abril 2007 11:36, Rodrigo Forlin escreveu:
> > Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote this:
> > > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>
> 20, using Linux since 2000
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[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Please let me know who is happy with your distributions?... :D it's an
> obvious question :D

Well, I love Gentoo very much. I also like SourceMage, Ubuntu (yeah, I can';t believe it) and I even
used ot love SuSE.

Damn, I even WORKED for Suse when they were still Suse and had offices in Argentina. Head consultant :P

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[Nistor Andrei]

On Friday 13 April 2007, Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

I'm 17 :D First tasted linux back in the days of RedHat 7.3 (I think) Then 
dual-booted with windows until 4 years ago when linux became the only OS 
living inside my PC.

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[kashani]

Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

Looks like I'm coming in at the older end at 33.

Some SunOS on sparc5 in college and the IBM mainframe for the Fortran 
classes I took in '93. Installed BSD off floppies and a 28.8 modem in 
'96. Discovered Linux in '97 and kicked BSD to the curb shortly 
thereafter. Gentoo in 2002 and it's still my favorite distro.

kashani
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[gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Sven Braun]

Hi,

i'm 15 years old, using Linux since 2004/2005, started with Suse,
Debian and now i'm on Gentoo - and very happy :)

On 4/13/07, kashani <kashani-list@badapple.net> wrote:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>
> Looks like I'm coming in at the older end at 33.
>
> Some SunOS on sparc5 in college and the IBM mainframe for the Fortran
> classes I took in '93. Installed BSD off floppies and a 28.8 modem in
> '96. Discovered Linux in '97 and kicked BSD to the curb shortly
> thereafter. Gentoo in 2002 and it's still my favorite distro.
>
> kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 13 April 2007, kashani wrote:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>
> Looks like I'm coming in at the older end at 33.

No danger of that - I'll be 70 this Christmas ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Dale]

I'm 39.  I'm not the oldest but I feel like I am.  I started with
Mandrake.  After trying to upgrade, I switched to Gentoo.  I have never
had windoze on any of my machines.  Not once.   Never had a need to either.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Larry Lines]

I'm 37.  Started with Redhat in 1999, then Debian and then Gentoo in
2002.  

Larry

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[david]

I'm 51, I have been using Gentoo since 2002.

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[Graham Murray]

Dale <dalek@exceedtech.net> writes:

> I'm 39.  I'm not the oldest but I feel like I am.

Do not feel the oldest any more, I am 49. I started Linux with SuSE and
prior to that used OS/2. The last version of Windows I used personally
(as opposed to at work, though now even at work I almost exclusively
use, and program, Linux) was Windows-386.
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[Anthony E. Caudel]

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Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž	bst==

I'm 64.

Gentoo since 1999.  I started with CP/M on a processor Technology SOL-20
in 1979 or 1980.

Tony

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[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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> program, which only runs on windows. :(

Let's reverse engineer the format :)

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[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-04-13, Anthony E. Caudel <acaudel@gt.rr.com> wrote:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
>> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>> Sent via BlackBerry? from Vodafone  ??????z?\x1e??(??&j)b?	bst==
>
> I'm 64.
>
> Gentoo since 1999.  I started with CP/M on a processor
> Technology SOL-20 in 1979 or 1980.

That brings back memories. A SOL-20 was the first microcomputer
computer I used.  I believe it was 1980.  48K of RAM and two 8"
Pertec floppy drives.  Before you could boot CP/M from a
floppy, you had to load a bootloader from cassette tape.

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[b.n.]

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Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au ha scritto:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž	bst==

I'm 26.
(By the way, it seems that Gentoo is a really young distro! I thought 
the average was in the 30's, but I find myself to be on the average)

If some more people join the stat, I'd build an histogram.

m.
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[Colleen Beamer]

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Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž	bst==

Don't know what the average age is, but I'm 58.  I've been using Linux
since 1999.  I first used Redhat/Fedora, have tried Mandrake (now
Mandriva), Ubuntu/Kubuntu and Gentoo since 2004.  Too many pluses with
Gentoo for me to use anything else now.

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[Vernon A. Fort]

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Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž	bst==
I'm 42, linux user since 1988 (slackware) then redhat 4.2 through 9.0 
then fedora core.  Got burned out doing constant  upgrades and 
discovered Gentoo in spring of 04.  Installed my first production server 
in late summer of 04 and its still running.
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[Vernon A. Fort]

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Vernon A. Fort wrote:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
>> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž    bst==
> I'm 42, linux user since 1988 (slackware) then redhat 4.2 through 9.0 
> then fedora core.  Got burned out doing constant  upgrades and 
> discovered Gentoo in spring of 04.  Installed my first production 
> server in late summer of 04 and its still running.
Correction, it was 91 on the Linux - Xenix on an old Tandy in 88.

Vernon
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[Dan Farrell]

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:14:32 -0500
"Vernon A. Fort" <vfort@provident-solutions.com> wrote:

> Vernon A. Fort wrote:
> > Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> >> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> >> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  _éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž    bst==
> > I'm 42, linux user since 1988 (slackware) then redhat 4.2 through
> > 9.0 then fedora core.  Got burned out doing constant  upgrades and 
> > discovered Gentoo in spring of 04.  Installed my first production 
> > server in late summer of 04 and its still running.
> Correction, it was 91 on the Linux - Xenix on an old Tandy in 88.
> 
> Vernon
Ah, that explains how you were running linux before it was invented ; )


I'm 23, and only have been running gentoo since 2002.  I didn't
have a computer back when the internet was cool and stuff.  It's funny,
on the forums I feel like more of a gentoo veteran but on the mailing
list I feel like a newbie.  Im beginning to see why.  
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[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Friday 13 April 2007 23:36:29 Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> Gentoo since 1999.

Really? I was under the impression the first release went out in 2002. Of 
course it could be installed before that but '99?

(and yeah, I'm 24).

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[dsewnr]

Nistor Andrei wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007, Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
>   
>> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone
>>     
>
> I'm 17 :D First tasted linux back in the days of RedHat 7.3 (I think) Then 
> dual-booted with windows until 4 years ago when linux became the only OS 
> living inside my PC.
>
>   
HI,
I'm 22 years old, I've used Linux about half year since 2006,
Windows XP >> Ubuntu >> Fedora Core >> Debian >> and now I'm using Gentoo.
What a good operation system Gentoo is :P
I very very like it !

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[Statux]

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On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 11:06 +0800, dsewnr wrote:
> HI,
> I'm 22 years old, I've used Linux about half year since 2006,
> Windows XP >> Ubuntu >> Fedora Core >> Debian >> and now I'm using Gentoo.
> What a good operation system Gentoo is :P
> I very very like it !

As for me, I'm 26. I first used an early version of Slackware back in late
1996 but didn't use Linux full time until 1998 when I grabbed a copy of
RedHat 5.1 and replaced my NT4W install. From that point I upgraded RedHat
every other version (which worked out to be once a year) until RedHat
underwent internal changes and Fedora was born. I chose not to go that
course and instead, I switched over to Gentoo (stage 1 installs are always
fun) which I have been using ever since.

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[dsewnr]

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2007/4/14, dsewnr <dsewnr@gmail.com>:
>
> Nistor Andrei wrote:
> > On Friday 13 April 2007, Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> >
> >> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> >> Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone
> >>
> >
> > I'm 17 :D First tasted linux back in the days of RedHat 7.3 (I think)
> Then
> > dual-booted with windows until 4 years ago when linux became the only OS
> > living inside my PC.
> >
> >
> HI,
> I'm 22 years old, I've used Linux about half year since 2006,
> Windows XP >> Ubuntu >> Fedora Core >> Debian >> and now I'm using Gentoo.
> What a good operation system Gentoo is :P

                       ^^^^^^^^^
Sorry for my poor  english,  it 's "operating"  *NOT* "operation" :p

I very very like it !
>
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[Thanasis]

43 , met with solaris on Dec. 1997, and started with mandrake and redhat
around 1999, then added openbsd in 2000 and from 2003 I use gentoo
(only)... and a bit of centos maybe :-)  )
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[alain.didierjean]

Selon Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com>:

> On Friday 13 April 2007, kashani wrote:
> > Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> > > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> >
> > Looks like I'm coming in at the older end at 33.
>
> No danger of that - I'll be 70 this Christmas ;-)

I'm 62.
My first Unix box was an Amiga 3000UX running Sys V r4 (and still booted once in
a while).
I went to Linux in 1992 : RedHat, then Suse, then Debian. Gentoo for the last 5
years.


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[Dorin Scutarasu]

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On Friday 13 April 2007 14:07:35 Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

I'll be 22 next month, and I've been a happy Gentoo user since 2005.1.

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[Guillermo A. Amaral]

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On Saturday 14 April 2007 00:37, Dan Farrell wrote:
>
> I'm 23, and only have been running gentoo since 2002.  I didn't
> have a computer back when the internet was cool and stuff.  It's funny,
> on the forums I feel like more of a gentoo veteran but on the mailing
> list I feel like a newbie.  Im beginning to see why.

I'm 25, started with an Apple II then a C64, x86 around 94 started my 
GNU/Linux trek with slackware I got off a half dead BBS user group... went on 
to try Red Hat and Debian, tried every distro I could afford to download via  
Modem, once I got ISDN, Cable and then DSL I went on to find Gentoo some time 
in 2003 or 2004, Loved it and it has been close to me ever since, I still 
test other distros but nothing comes close to Gentoo.

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[Alex Schuster]

Bo Ørsted Andresen wonders:

> On Friday 13 April 2007 23:36:29 Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> > Gentoo since 1999.
>
> Really? I was under the impression the first release went out in 2002.
> Of course it could be installed before that but '99?

In part 3 of his "Making the distribution" text Daniel Robbins, the 
founder of Gentoo Linux, told that Gentoo 1.0 would be released around 
Jan 2001. Before that, it was called "Enoch".
BTW, I find these articles quite interesting.

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-dist1.html

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[b.n.]

b.n. ha scritto:
> I'm 26.
> (By the way, it seems that Gentoo is a really young distro! I thought 
> the average was in the 30's, but I find myself to be on the average)

Oh,yes,forgot my Linux history :)
I started recently, in 2003, with Mandrake 9.1 and then 10.1. I was 
converted by a university friend of mine, and since when I did first 
install Linux, I never came back. I wiped out Windows from my home 
desktop box immediately.

Then in December 2005 I renewed my box, installed Gentoo on it, and 
still running it.

In the meanwhile I have run Slackware and then Kubuntu at my parents 
home (never managed to convert them, sigh) and Debian Sarge and then 
Kubuntu at work.

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[Tony Stohne]

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Grant Edwards said the following on 2007-04-13 23:57:
> ...
> That brings back memories. A SOL-20 was the first microcomputer
> computer I used.  I believe it was 1980.  48K of RAM and two 8"
> Pertec floppy drives.  Before you could boot CP/M from a
> floppy, you had to load a bootloader from cassette tape.
> 
hehe, there are some experienced guys (& gals?) on the list.
I'm 44. I remember Imsai 8080, Apple II/III and others. In Sweden
we had those little boxes known as ABC80 (and later ABC800 with
16 colors and somewhat better graphical resolution). Other boxes
are PDP11/70, various PET/Commodore, Ataris et al. I'm felling a huge
wave of nostalghia here :)

Of course, there were the Mcaintoshes, IBM PC/XT etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious

[Novensiles divi Flamen]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:52:40 Tony Stohne wrote:
> hehe, there are some experienced guys (& gals?) on the list.
> I'm 44. I remember Imsai 8080, Apple II/III and others. In Sweden
> we had those little boxes known as ABC80 (and later ABC800 with
> 16 colors and somewhat better graphical resolution). Other boxes
> are PDP11/70, various PET/Commodore, Ataris et al. I'm felling a huge
> wave of nostalghia here :)
>
We learned about some of them in history class. An archaelogical dig in a 
clients warehouse turned up ancient Apple II's - one of which we turned into 
a sharehouse phone message notepad. 

I'm 25.

- Noven
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:32:34 -0300 "Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman"
<buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:

> Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> > Aaaaaargh! This seems to be the new excuse for writing ridiculously
> > short mails w/o much information and background now. IMHO, a stupid
> > excuse.
> 
> BUT you provided a great, and funny but yet insightful answer. :P

Thanks :-) And now, here I stand corrected: The thread has actually
become a cultural excercise and social mailing list event! Maybe we
even make it into the GWN: "Big outing party on gentoo-user" or
similar ;-)

OK, I hope I adhere to the auto-adjusted standard for writing one's
Gentoo/Linux/Computing history ;-) :

I'm at the end of 26, using Linux since about 1996 (there was this
Corel Linux distribution on some magazine's cover CD...), quickly
chosing SuSE for the start. It didn't take long and I wanted to do more
configuring without borking YaST all the time, so I went for Debian.
That's where I compiled my first (vanilla) kernel, which was a pain on
SuSE. I stayed with debian until 2003 (I think), when I switched to
Gentoo for all but a few machines.

My start at computing was 1986, at the age of 6. My parents bought an
Olivetti 8086 (with already 8MHz and a HD of 20MB). I was fascinated. I
started programming (good ol' MS QuickBasic) at the age of 10, I think.
I learned assembler and pascal, later Java, C, C++. At that time, I
could already resolve IRQ conflicts with some wire and a soldering
iron :-)

At the age of 15, I felt in love with the FIDO-Net (I was
2:240/6010.29, later 2:240/9301.29), only to dump my first registered
shareware, CrossPoint, a few months later when the internet was
starting to make its first steps in the private sector in germany.

Now, I earn my little money with programming (just boring web stuff)
and administration, while studying law (funny choice given the
background, eh?).

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious

[Tony Stohne]

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Novensiles divi Flamen said the following on 2007-04-14 14:43:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:52:40 Tony Stohne wrote:
>> ... Other boxes
>> are PDP11/70, various PET/Commodore, Ataris et al. I'm felling a huge
>> wave of nostalghia here :)
>>
> We learned about some of them in history class. An archaelogical dig in a 
> clients warehouse turned up ancient Apple II's - one of which we turned into 
> a sharehouse phone message notepad. 
> 
At KTH (The Royal Institue of Technologym Stockholm) there's an interest
group known as "Stacken" ie "The stack" where they have a bunch of old
stuff running, including a fully functional PDP11/70 :) Now, that's real
nostalghia.

//Regards T
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[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> Thanks :-) And now, here I stand corrected: The thread has actually
> become a cultural excercise and social mailing list event! Maybe we
> even make it into the GWN: "Big outing party on gentoo-user" or
> similar ;-)

OH YES :)

> OK, I hope I adhere to the auto-adjusted standard for writing one's
> Gentoo/Linux/Computing history ;-) :

Damn, so far your story is the msot similar to mine. Please, fellow gentooers, allow me to extend my
bio, while quoting Hans:

> I'm at the end of 26, using Linux since about 1996 (there was this
> Corel Linux distribution on some magazine's cover CD...), quickly

I'm in the middle of 25, using linux since about 1994 (there was this minilinux.zip 11MB file on
some BBS...), quickly chosing Slackware (from the famous Infomagic's Linux Developer Resource CD
sets, I got like 4 of them), then SuSE. I never liked Debian. I used SuSE without YaST.

I was worn 8/2/82 (yes, at 23:32, lots of mathematical bizarreness here, most numbers in my life
have to do with 2 and 8 :P)
I started programming at the age of 8, in a Commmodore 64 my biological father had. Then he left,
and until 10/11 years old I couldn't get my own computer. I still remember saving every penny I
could. In the end I got a 80286, 20/25Mhz, no HD, and 5 1/4" floppy for AR$ 6.200.000 (like USD 620
at that time) in 1990, 1991... I continued programming (although I did at primary school, and the
teachers insisted on my mom to get me a computer): more quickbasic, then turbo pascal. I wrote my
first BBS for MS-DOS in Turbo Pascal 7.0. I remember using the TurboPower COMM libraries for it
(incidentally, my best friend in USA was one of the top programmers at TurboPower...). A couple of
years later, I got the minilinux, then full Slackware. That's when I decided to get my own telephone
line ("Mom, PLEASE, PLEASE, let me have my BBS! I won't dial other BBSes!"), and started writing a
new, from scratch, BBS system: multiuser, it had instant messaging, tree-based forums, file
attachments, private email and multiuser conference, anybody wants the source?). It was my first
stake at C. Learning C AND Linux at the same time, at that time, provided LOTS of OS knowledge. I
still fix most things by [spl]tracing to find out bugs, or by writing interposers, etc.

I was starting secondary school and decided to study electronics. That's where assembler started. I
was bad with soldering, but good at microcontrollers :P. Although I already knew about secure
coding, learning how to write an exploit helped a lot.

As I was interested in Security I never dropped other OSes 100%. Of course, all my servers run
Linux, but at home I had Microsofts' OSes and other stuff, mainly for research purposes. I work and
play and everything under Linux.


> At the age of 15, I felt in love with the FIDO-Net (I was
> 2:240/6010.29, later 2:240/9301.29), only to dump my first registered
> shareware, CrossPoint, a few months later when the internet was
> starting to make its first steps in the private sector in germany.

I was a fido point! 4:900/748.3. I was a node for 3 other networks too (Music & Sound, Desertic and
another I can recall the name).

> Now, I earn my little money with programming (just boring web stuff)
> and administration, while studying law (funny choice given the
> background, eh?).

Now, I earn my little money with consulting, programming (just boring systems stuff :P) and
administration, while playing punk-pop with my band (PLUG! PLUG
www.purevolume.com/futurabandapunkpop everything released in creative commons license) and I never
went to university.

In .ar I wrote many articles in different magazines, given talks on security, programming and FLOSS,
I was 6 months in one of Cable tv's most famous technology programms [yeah, talking and everything],
and had the chance of meeting Vinton Cerf (I had a nice talk with him, told me I was just a living
example of why he created internet. I still have wet dreams about that.), Richard stallman, Jon
"maddog" Hall, Roger Dingledine from the TOR project, and many other hackers while giving a speech
about covert channels in the Bolivian hacker conference. That's as far as I got from Buenos Aires.

Basicly, this story is a big thank you for the GNU project, Linus Torvalds and BIG TEAM, and
everyone else that contributed to what I've been using since the beginning to become what I'm now. A
big geek with a potential rfc in his hands. :P

Somebody kick me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Mark Shields]

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On 4/14/07, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
>
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> Hash: SHA512
>
> Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> > Thanks :-) And now, here I stand corrected: The thread has actually
> > become a cultural excercise and social mailing list event! Maybe we
> > even make it into the GWN: "Big outing party on gentoo-user" or
> > similar ;-)
>
> OH YES :)
>
> > OK, I hope I adhere to the auto-adjusted standard for writing one's
> > Gentoo/Linux/Computing history ;-) :
>
> Damn, so far your story is the msot similar to mine. Please, fellow
> gentooers, allow me to extend my
> bio, while quoting Hans:
>
> > I'm at the end of 26, using Linux since about 1996 (there was this
> > Corel Linux distribution on some magazine's cover CD...), quickly
>
> I'm in the middle of 25, using linux since about 1994 (there was this
> minilinux.zip 11MB file on
> some BBS...), quickly chosing Slackware (from the famous Infomagic's Linux
> Developer Resource CD
> sets, I got like 4 of them), then SuSE. I never liked Debian. I used SuSE
> without YaST.
>
> I was worn 8/2/82 (yes, at 23:32, lots of mathematical bizarreness here,
> most numbers in my life
> have to do with 2 and 8 :P)
> I started programming at the age of 8, in a Commmodore 64 my biological
> father had. Then he left,
> and until 10/11 years old I couldn't get my own computer. I still remember
> saving every penny I
> could. In the end I got a 80286, 20/25Mhz, no HD, and 5 1/4" floppy for
> AR$ 6.200.000 (like USD 620
> at that time) in 1990, 1991... I continued programming (although I did at
> primary school, and the
> teachers insisted on my mom to get me a computer): more quickbasic, then
> turbo pascal. I wrote my
> first BBS for MS-DOS in Turbo Pascal 7.0. I remember using the TurboPower
> COMM libraries for it
> (incidentally, my best friend in USA was one of the top programmers at
> TurboPower...). A couple of
> years later, I got the minilinux, then full Slackware. That's when I
> decided to get my own telephone
> line ("Mom, PLEASE, PLEASE, let me have my BBS! I won't dial other
> BBSes!"), and started writing a
> new, from scratch, BBS system: multiuser, it had instant messaging,
> tree-based forums, file
> attachments, private email and multiuser conference, anybody wants the
> source?). It was my first
> stake at C. Learning C AND Linux at the same time, at that time, provided
> LOTS of OS knowledge. I
> still fix most things by [spl]tracing to find out bugs, or by writing
> interposers, etc.
>
> I was starting secondary school and decided to study electronics. That's
> where assembler started. I
> was bad with soldering, but good at microcontrollers :P. Although I
> already knew about secure
> coding, learning how to write an exploit helped a lot.
>
> As I was interested in Security I never dropped other OSes 100%. Of
> course, all my servers run
> Linux, but at home I had Microsofts' OSes and other stuff, mainly for
> research purposes. I work and
> play and everything under Linux.
>
>
> > At the age of 15, I felt in love with the FIDO-Net (I was
> > 2:240/6010.29, later 2:240/9301.29), only to dump my first registered
> > shareware, CrossPoint, a few months later when the internet was
> > starting to make its first steps in the private sector in germany.
>
> I was a fido point! 4:900/748.3. I was a node for 3 other networks too
> (Music & Sound, Desertic and
> another I can recall the name).
>
> > Now, I earn my little money with programming (just boring web stuff)
> > and administration, while studying law (funny choice given the
> > background, eh?).
>
> Now, I earn my little money with consulting, programming (just boring
> systems stuff :P) and
> administration, while playing punk-pop with my band (PLUG! PLUG
> www.purevolume.com/futurabandapunkpop everything released in creative
> commons license) and I never
> went to university.
>
> In .ar I wrote many articles in different magazines, given talks on
> security, programming and FLOSS,
> I was 6 months in one of Cable tv's most famous technology programms
> [yeah, talking and everything],
> and had the chance of meeting Vinton Cerf (I had a nice talk with him,
> told me I was just a living
> example of why he created internet. I still have wet dreams about that.),
> Richard stallman, Jon
> "maddog" Hall, Roger Dingledine from the TOR project, and many other
> hackers while giving a speech
> about covert channels in the Bolivian hacker conference. That's as far as
> I got from Buenos Aires.
>
> Basicly, this story is a big thank you for the GNU project, Linus Torvalds
> and BIG TEAM, and
> everyone else that contributed to what I've been using since the beginning
> to become what I'm now. A
> big geek with a potential rfc in his hands. :P
>
> Somebody kick me.
>
> - --
> Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad
> Informatica
> Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda:
> http://foros.buanzo.com.ar
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>
I just finished compiling to age 24 this last Sunday.  I've been using Linux
seriously since 2004 (when I started using Gentoo on my server); however,
I've been playing around with Linux since about 2002.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au schrieb:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

I become 27 in May and use Linux since 2004. I would have started
earlier but the "linux is difficult to use" bias prevented me from
trying it earlier.

I began with Ubuntu which a friend of mine suggested to me. After a
short period i switched to Gentoo which now satisfies all my needs. This
includes more control over the system and a greater learning effect.

At work i use Suse and Red Hat for CFD purposes. I have never done any
kind of programming ecxept for school, but recently i started to write
perl scripts which i need at work. So lets see how this is going on.

It is good to see some experienced users here, which gives me a feeling
of being at the right place when asking questions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious

[Ralf Stephan]

You wrote 
> I'm 44. I remember Imsai 8080, Apple II/III and others. In Sweden
> we had those little boxes known as ABC80 (and later ABC800 with
> 16 colors and somewhat better graphical resolution). Other boxes
> are PDP11/70, various PET/Commodore, Ataris et al. I'm felling a huge
> wave of nostalghia here :)

Yes, those Ataris with 16K on-chip OS and 48-64K memory. (400XL)
I bought one then at around '82 for 1000? Marks (=$500),
the same price I had to shell for a 3,5" Floppy drive for it,
the size of a thick book. My first computer, and I'm 44 too!

My first Linux was a tarball with Kernel, shell, and some tools
including gcc-1.x with a size of around 1-2 MB (memory fails me).
It was 1992, not a year after Linus started the thing. After that,
there came Slackware for a few years, SuSE for quite some time,
LinuxPPC on iMac, Ubuntu, and now Gentoo for some 1,2 years.


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Dan Farrell]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:03:03 +0000
"Guillermo A. Amaral" <me@guillermoamaral.com> wrote:

> I still test other distros but nothing comes
> close to Gentoo.

They have their merits I guess, but they're just so ... i don't know,
clunky I guess.  Clunky and unoriginal.  I bet almost everybody that
runs gentoo has a singular system.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious

[Dale]

Tony Stohne wrote:
>
>
> hehe, there are some experienced guys (& gals?) on the list.
> I'm 44. I remember Imsai 8080, Apple II/III and others. In Sweden
> we had those little boxes known as ABC80 (and later ABC800 with
> 16 colors and somewhat better graphical resolution). Other boxes
> are PDP11/70, various PET/Commodore, Ataris et al. I'm felling a huge
> wave of nostalghia here :)
>
> Of course, there were the Mcaintoshes, IBM PC/XT etc.
>
> //T

Is a Vic-20 considered a computer?   That was my first one if it was. 
God that thing was slow.  Could you imagine compiling Open Office on
that?  Mine had like 8K of ram I think.  That was to long ago to remember.

Gosh, I need to stop thinking about this stuff.  I feel old now.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-04-13, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
> On 2007-04-13, Anthony E. Caudel <acaudel@gt.rr.com> wrote:
>> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
>>> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>>> Sent via BlackBerry? from Vodafone  ??????z?\x1e??(??&j)b?	bst==
>>
>> I'm 64.
>>
>> Gentoo since 1999.  I started with CP/M on a processor
>> Technology SOL-20 in 1979 or 1980.
>
> That brings back memories. A SOL-20 was the first microcomputer
> computer I used.  I believe it was 1980.  48K of RAM and two 8"
> Pertec floppy drives.  Before you could boot CP/M from a
> floppy, you had to load a bootloader from cassette tape.

And after all that yammering, I never did actually answer the
OP's question.  I'll be 47 in a couple weeks...

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[Mark Kirkwood]

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Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž	bst==

I'm 44, started using UNIX in 1990 (Dynix and SunOS). Discovered Linux 
in 1997 or 1998 (Redhat 5.1). Moved to using FreeBSD as well as Linux in 
2001 or so. Only started with Gentoo in 2006 (moved from Redhat/Fedora 
after getting fed up with 'rpm hell').

Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Peter Weller]

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:07:35 GMT
Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:

> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  [Error decoding BASE64]

I'm 16.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[b.n.]

Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au ha scritto:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

Okay, here it is the histogram of the age distribution with the first 50 
data.
http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gentooageoo3.png

The bins are 3 years each. Made with Gnumeric+Inkscape.

Notice the sharp drop after 27 years of age and the second irregular 
distribution around 43-45. I wait for interpretations.

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Rostislav]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, b.n. wrote:

>  Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au ha scritto:
> > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> 
>  Okay, here it is the histogram of the age distribution with the first 50 
>  data.
>  http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gentooageoo3.png
> 
>  The bins are 3 years each. Made with Gnumeric+Inkscape.
> 
>  Notice the sharp drop after 27 years of age and the second irregular 
>  distribution around 43-45. I wait for interpretations.
> 

Seems like a drop in 27-33 interval is an impact of the windoze 3.x/9x disaster in a sensitive age :D
I'll 24 in a week.

Regards,
Rostislav.
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[Elias Probst]

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On Sunday 15 April 2007 14:36:16 b.n. wrote:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au ha scritto:
>
> Notice the sharp drop after 27 years of age and the second irregular
> distribution around 43-45. I wait for interpretations.

I'm going to raise the 20th amplitude even more:

eliasp ~ # genlop -c

 * life-base/age-22

       current merge time: 8 months, 1 day, 9 hours
       ETA: 3 months, 30 days, 3 hours

Version 13-16 was running on Corel 1.0, SuSE 5.2 - 7.3
Version 16.5-17 on Debian
Since Version 17 it is running rockstable on Gentoo

Regards,
Elias P.

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[Mike Markowski]

Tony Stohne wrote:
> hehe, there are some experienced guys (& gals?) on the list.
> I'm 44...

I'm also 44, have been using Unix since 1981 and still have my hardback
book on the PDP 11/70 and my K&R C book from then.  I remember being
told not to run 'vi' when too many people were on because it would slow
the machine down.  :-)  (Bad info it seems, but funny now.)  My first pc
unix was in 1991 and I forget if it was BSDFree or FreeBSD.  X11 dist
was X386.  I'm pretty sure the OS was version 0.1.  I remember loading
floppy after floppy after floppy to get the os on, then it took a long
time for X to start up with the disk grinding away.  I also remember
earlier days as a teen never being able to convince my parents to spring
for the $500 TRS-80 or Heathkit...  :-)

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[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

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Mike Markowski wrote:
> Tony Stohne wrote:
>   
>> hehe, there are some experienced guys (& gals?) on the list.
>> I'm 44...
>>     
>
> I'm also 44, have been using Unix since 1981 and still have my hardback
> book on the PDP 11/70 and my K&R C book from then.  I remember being
> told not to run 'vi' when too many people were on because it would slow
> the machine down.  :-)  (Bad info it seems, but funny now.)  My first pc
> unix was in 1991 and I forget if it was BSDFree or FreeBSD.  X11 dist
> was X386.  I'm pretty sure the OS was version 0.1.  I remember loading
> floppy after floppy after floppy to get the os on, then it took a long
> time for X to start up with the disk grinding away.  I also remember
> earlier days as a teen never being able to convince my parents to spring
> for the $500 TRS-80 or Heathkit...  :-)
>
>   
I remember the TRS-80!  I also was brought up on the CBM or Commodore 
PET (green screen with cassette tape drive). I started programming in 
early 1983 using BASIC on the Commodore PET.  Same CPU as the Apple IIe 
(and Apple IIc).  The release of the Commodore 64 was a God send, with 
my first real option to write graphics and sound code along with 
eventually writing my own assembler because I couldn't afford to buy one 
;-)  64KB was SO MUCH MEMORY back then!  Oh yes, I am 35 years old.

Tom Veldhouse

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Neil Walker]

Elias Probst wrote:
> I'm going to raise the 20th amplitude even more:
> age-22
>   


Well, I'll do my bit to restore the balance. ;) I'm 56. Been around 
computers since 1969 and my first home system was a self-build based on 
a DEC LSI 11/23 processor running RT11. ;)


Be lucky,

Neil

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Alan E. Davis]

I'm 60.
Gentoo since November 2005.
I was first exposed to the *nix concept through the DOS compiled Unix
utilities produced by the FSF in about 1992 or 3.  Once I returned to
civilization from a remote Pacific island, where I was using the *nix
text tools for a lexicon project, I had to have Linux, of which I had
learned by following the FSF News Bull.
Started on Slackware.  After about two years, I moved to Debian.  A
few years later, I started using Knoppix to install and ran Debian.
I started using Gentoo as a self-torture exercize, to cure myself of
fear of configuration.  I have looked at Ubuntu and MEPIX in the
meanwhile, even running them when I need a quick install.  I have
never seriously looked back from Gentoo, however.

I'm not from a computer background, which seems somewhat unique among
respondents.  Rather, I have been using GNU/Linux to enable my work,
education, science, publishing w/ TeX/LaTeX, making tide calendars.  I
owe a huge debt to the developers.  I would like to pay it back,
perhaps working on Documentation; perhaps I am too scatterbrained and
although I have taken a basic course in Computer Architecture,
programmed in Elisp, and taken a course in Mathematical FORTRAN, I
feel somewhat ovewhelmed by the nits.

Alan
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I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I
must share it with other people who like it.
--------Richard Stallman

Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute
rejection of authority.  ----- Thomas H. Huxley
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Rudmer van Dijk]

On Sunday 15 April 2007, b.n. wrote:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au ha scritto:
> > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>
> Okay, here it is the histogram of the age distribution with the first 50
> data.
> http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gentooageoo3.png
>
> The bins are 3 years each. Made with Gnumeric+Inkscape.
>
> Notice the sharp drop after 27 years of age and the second irregular
> distribution around 43-45. I wait for interpretations.

well, one more for /after/ 27: I'm 28 years young 8-)

discovered *nix with SuSE 6.2 (around 1996), Solaris and Irix
tried RedHat several times but the installation _always_ crashed...
then LFS and getting lazy so switched to Gentoo 1.x around 2003 which is 
_much_ better! still happily using it my machine.


	Rudmer
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Will Briggs]

Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry� from Vodafone  ����z�\x1e��(��&j)b�	bst==

I wasn't going to respond.  But it's my birthday today - 2^5 = 32 baby!
(Using gentoo since 2004.3)

W.
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[Vikas Kumar]

On 11:24 Mon 16 Apr     , Will Briggs wrote:
> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> > What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> > Sent via BlackBerry� from Vodafone  ����z�\x1e��(��&j)b�	bst==
> 
> I wasn't going to respond.  But it's my birthday today - 2^5 = 32 baby!
> (Using gentoo since 2004.3)
> 
Happy birthday :-)

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[Bryan Whitehead]

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Nearly 28. Been using gentoo since version 1.0 (maybe pre-1.0 but can't 
remember).

I started using linux back when slackware fit on a bunch of 5.25" floppies.

I now work full time at a startup in the silicon valley watching over 4 
datacenters full of CentOS machines (and some Solaris).

Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:

>What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  éí¢‹¬z¸\x1ežÚ(¢¸&j)bž	bst==
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Iain Buchanan]

On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 12:07 +0000, Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

well, since so many people replied, why not?...

I'm 28 (according to the histogram there are only 2 of us :) and using
Linux since Redhat 6.something (1997 ?) that I bought on the cover of a
magazine.  I started tinkering with computers (ie. games :) on the
Commodore 64 when around 10, and later a Vic-20 (both hand-me-downs from
generous uncles).  Starting "hacking" (ie. messing around) with the
software on a 486 DX 2/66 when I was 15, and quickly borked windows, for
which my mum took it back to the store before I could fix it ;)  No more
Duke Nukem!

Had a bit of a hiatus until an Apple IIe in 95, then "my" first computer
- a 300MHz Celeron with 8Mb video card, and a 3 Gb HD (more of anything
than I could ever need) in 97 (?).  It still runs (linux of course).
This has had redhat, fedora, (debian never got over it's cyclic
dependency problems).  After that was gentoo, since about... oh I don't
know, back when there were less than 60,000 files in an `emerge sync` :)
more than 3 years ago anyway.  Also tried out some *BSD because I had to
at work, but never liked it (I promise I didn't inhale :)

And I still know nothing!
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Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au>

To every Ph.D. there is an equal and opposite Ph.D.
		-- B. Duggan

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 April 2007, Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

I recently hit the ideal age for any geek:

42

I think I'm going to stay this age from now on. Moving to 43 is such a 
let-down after being 42 for an entire year

alan



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Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?

Alan McKinnon
alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[arnuld]

> On 4/16/07, Bryan Whitehead <driver@megahappy.net> wrote:

> Nearly 28. Been using gentoo since version 1.0 (maybe pre-1.0 but can't
> remember).
>
> I started using linux back when slackware fit on a bunch of 5.25" floppies.

ooohhh.... you are an old time Linux user.  i am 26 and i started
using Linux 1.5 years ago with Fedora Core 3 and did dual-boot my
system with Windows XP and after 6 months i got rid of that crappy OS
and made my system fully GNU(ish) . it was Celeron 600 MHz . i loved
GNOME too much at that time.

after some months, i had some trouble with my new D-Link router and
felt totally frustrated when i tried Fedora's sysconfig GUI tools and
for the 1st time in my life  i got a chance to meet my 1st
configuration text file "/etc/resolv.conf", next one i hit was
"/etc/hosts". it was really difficult and coool....  at the same time
because i felt i am controlling my machine which was never possible
with Windows. after some more time passed, i installed Debian and used
it over a long time and just 3 months ago i started hating Desktop
things, i looked into some other distros and used many: gnewSense,
KATEOS, SOURCEMAGE, Lunar, Arch and lots of others and my hatred
towards Desktop based system grew in large proportions. i tried Gentoo
this time and did quit, it looked too weired to me,  finally i landed
with Arch and ran Xfce on the top of it as Arch Linux forces a user to
manage his system using command-line tools BUT that was not what i was
looking for. it seems like i had "the GNU OS effect" a.k.a "the UNIX
effect" a.k.a "command-line addiction" wired into me and when i read
this:

http://ironphoenix.org/tril/fvwm/

i came to know i was not the only one, so i finally quit the Xfce and
landed onto Window Maker on Arch. i was not satisfied yet and my
journey reached at Gentoo Linux, NO Xfce, NO GNOME ....no GUI tools
and menus..... i feel good now, i am running Window Maker for now but
will switch to another Window Manager where i will make design-use by
own hands, like FVWM, IceWM or Sawfish,i am just reading the different
articles on these.  i think one day i will land on GNU Screen with
RatPoison  but for now a Window Manager will rule:-)


> I now work full time at a startup in the silicon valley watching over 4
> datacenters full of CentOS machines (and some Solaris).


good got any job for me there...  ;-)

may be i could make some money and buy an LCD monitor, for keeping
eyes n good condition


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

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Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007, kashani wrote:
>> Kellystewart00@yahoo.com.au wrote:
>>> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
>> Looks like I'm coming in at the older end at 33.
> 
> No danger of that - I'll be 70 this Christmas ;-)
> 

Damn! I was hoping to be the oldest at 55. I seem to remember (Early
Onset Alzheimer's) Red Hat 0.9...

- --- Vladimir

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