[gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[KiLLeR 718th]

Hey everybody,

I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16,
trying to emerge it . . .

server ~ # emerge -vp mail-mta/qmail

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[blocks B     ] mail-mta/netqmail (is blocking mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16)
[blocks B     ] mail-mta/qmail (is blocking mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5)
[ebuild  N    ] net-mail/queue-fix-1.4-r2  22 kB
[ebuild  N    ] mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5  USE="ssl -gencertdaily 
-highvolume -mailwrapper -noauthcram -qmail-spp -vanilla" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16  USE="ssl -gencertdaily -logmail 
-mailwrapper -noauthcram -notlsbeforeauth (-selinux)" 460 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/qmail-1.03  0 kB

Total: 4 packages (4 new, 2 blocks), Size of downloads: 481 kB

After i've tried to remove the blocked packages:

server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/netqmail

--- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/netqmail' to unmerge.

 >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/qmail

--- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/qmail' to unmerge.

 >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
server ~ #

Any ideas what might couse this and/or how to fix it

cheers,

A Sotirov.
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Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[Masood Ahmed]

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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 03:48:52AM -0500, KiLLeR 718th wrote:
> Hey everybody,
> 
> I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16,
> trying to emerge it . . .
> 
> server ~ # emerge -vp mail-mta/qmail
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [blocks B     ] mail-mta/netqmail (is blocking mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16)
> [blocks B     ] mail-mta/qmail (is blocking mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5)
> [ebuild  N    ] net-mail/queue-fix-1.4-r2  22 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5  USE="ssl -gencertdaily 
> -highvolume -mailwrapper -noauthcram -qmail-spp -vanilla" 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16  USE="ssl -gencertdaily -logmail 
> -mailwrapper -noauthcram -notlsbeforeauth (-selinux)" 460 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] virtual/qmail-1.03  0 kB
> 
> Total: 4 packages (4 new, 2 blocks), Size of downloads: 481 kB
> 
> After i've tried to remove the blocked packages:
> 
> server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/netqmail
> 
> --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/netqmail' to unmerge.
> 
> >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
> server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/qmail
> 
> --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/qmail' to unmerge.
> 
> >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
> server ~ #
> 
> Any ideas what might couse this and/or how to fix it

First of all I've no idea about qmail. But the command:
      emerge -C mail-mta/netqmail or emerge -C mail-mta/qmail
wont work because both packages are not installed on your
system. As for the netqmail blocking qmail and vice versa try
adding mailwrapper use flag (as said before I've no idea about
qmail).

Hope someone with better knowledge about qmail replies.

Bye,
Masood Ahmed

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Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Tuesday 06 March 2007 09:48:52 KiLLeR 718th wrote:
> I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16,
> trying to emerge it . . .
>
> server ~ # emerge -vp mail-mta/qmail
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [blocks B     ] mail-mta/netqmail (is blocking mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16)
> [blocks B     ] mail-mta/qmail (is blocking mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5)
> [ebuild  N    ] net-mail/queue-fix-1.4-r2  22 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5  USE="ssl -gencertdaily
> -highvolume -mailwrapper -noauthcram -qmail-spp -vanilla" 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16  USE="ssl -gencertdaily -logmail
> -mailwrapper -noauthcram -notlsbeforeauth (-selinux)" 460 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] virtual/qmail-1.03  0 kB
[SNIP]
> --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/netqmail' to unmerge.
[SNIP]
> --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/qmail' to unmerge.
[SNIP]
> Any ideas what might couse this and/or how to fix it

What's going on here is that qmail depends on queue-fix which post-depends on 
virtual/qmail (a new style virtual) whose default provider is netqmail. 
netqmail blocks qmail which hence reverse blocks netqmail. ;)

Clearly the portage resolver is being retarded by not realizing that qmail is 
an alternate provider for virtual/qmail. Still I have to ask why you don't 
just emerge virtual/qmail and be satisfied with netqmail? After all it is 
supposed to replace qmail... The alternative appears to be to file a bug 
against portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Tuesday 06 March 2007 12:34:01 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> What's going on here is that qmail depends on queue-fix which post-depends
> on virtual/qmail (a new style virtual) whose default provider is netqmail.
> netqmail blocks qmail which hence reverse blocks netqmail. ;)
>
> Clearly the portage resolver is being retarded by not realizing that qmail
> is an alternate provider for virtual/qmail. Still I have to ask why you
> don't just emerge virtual/qmail and be satisfied with netqmail? After all
> it is supposed to replace qmail... The alternative appears to be to file a
> bug against portage.

Thinking about this one more time such a bug would probably be duped against 
bug #1343. If you really want mail-mta/qmail you simply need to put 
mail-mta/netqmail in /etc/portage/package.mask to help the resolver.

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Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[kashani]

KiLLeR 718th wrote:
> Hey everybody,
> 
> I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16,
> trying to emerge it . . .

I hate to be that guy, but why is anyone using an MTA that was last 
updated in May 1998? Use Postfix (or any other MTA under active 
development), it's simpler, easier, faster, and has more functionality 
without jumping through hoops.

kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:48 -0800, kashani wrote:

> I hate to be that guy, but why is anyone using an MTA that was last 
> updated in May 1998? Use Postfix (or any other MTA under active 
> development), it's simpler, easier, faster, and has more functionality 
> without jumping through hoops.

I could name a few:

      * Because I've been using for a long time and don't feel like
        learning another MTA if i don't have to.  
      * I know it pretty well and I *trust* it.
      * It does everything+ I need it to do.
      * Is so secure that it hasn't needed an update since May 1998 ;).

All those points (except the last, unfortunately) can pretty much be
applied to any piece of software I use (bash, python, vim, Gentoo...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS

[kashani]

Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:48 -0800, kashani wrote:
> 
>> I hate to be that guy, but why is anyone using an MTA that was last 
>> updated in May 1998? Use Postfix (or any other MTA under active 
>> development), it's simpler, easier, faster, and has more functionality 
>> without jumping through hoops.
> 
> I could name a few:
> 
>       * Because I've been using for a long time and don't feel like
>         learning another MTA if i don't have to.  
>       * I know it pretty well and I *trust* it.
>       * It does everything+ I need it to do.
>       * Is so secure that it hasn't needed an update since May 1998 ;).
> 
> All those points (except the last, unfortunately) can pretty much be
> applied to any piece of software I use (bash, python, vim, Gentoo...)

But is it secure after adding the thirty odd patches needed to make 
qmail a modern MTA? However if you're familiar with it, then yeah stick 
with what you know though the change to Postfix at least was so painless 
I wondered why I didn't do it years earlier.

For all you new users picking your first MTA: pick something else 
anything else besides qmail. :-) Please.

kashani
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