[gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta

[gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta

[Turi Tropea]

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hi everyone,
after a fresh installation of gentoo (using the minimal cd)
i try to emerge kde-meta kde-i18n kdm
but an error was occured, 41 package blocks the emerge
there is the output of the emerge --pretend and package.keyword .use
and .unmask.

ps I have emerged XGL and BERYL (only emerged, without config anything)

best regards
Donato
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app-shells/bash bashlogger 
net-wireless/madwifi-ng injection
sys-devel/gcc gcj objc objc++ objc-gc
net-misc/openssh X509 chroot hpn libedit


# --> XGL <--
dev-util/subversion -nowebdav
x11-libs/cairo glitz pdf png X

x11-libs/cairo newspr
x11-libs/libXft newspr
net-wireless/wpa_supplicant gsm
net-analyzer/wireshark adns kerberos portaudio
net-analyzer/net-snmp diskio elf mfd-rewrites sendmail smux
media-sound/alsa-tools fltk
www-client/mozilla-firefox java xforms mozdevelop
media-video/vlc bidi cdda cddb corba daap directfb flac httpd libcaca libnotify matroska mod musepack ogg optimisememory rtsp sdl-image seamonkey shout skins speex stream theora upnp vlm vorbis xosd xv
media-video/vlc aalib asd live
media-video/mplayer aalib amr bidi bl cdparanoia cpudetection directfb enca esd jack libcaca live lzo matrox mmx mmxext musepack nas openal real rtc speex tga theora vorbis xanim xv xvmc

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net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools
net-wireless/madwifi-ng

# INIZIO XGL E BERYL 

# XGL Dependencies
dev-util/git
media-libs/glitz
media-libs/mesa
x11-apps/mesa-progs
sys-apps/man
x11-libs/cairo
dev-python/pycairo
x11-libs/qt
x11-misc/util-macros
x11-proto/glproto
x11-apps/xvinfo
x11-apps/xlsclients
x11-libs/libwnck
x11-misc/xwinwrap
virtual/xft
gnome-base/gconf
gnome-base/libgnomeui
x11-libs/gtk+
dev-libs/glib
x11-libs/libdrm

# XGL Package
x11-base/xgl

#Required for Beryl
x11-apps/xlsclients

# Beryl Core
x11-wm/beryl **
x11-wm/beryl-core **
x11-plugins/beryl-plugins **
x11-misc/beryl-manager **
x11-misc/beryl-settings **
x11-misc/beryl-settings-bindings **

# Additional Plugins
x11-plugins/beryl-plugins-unsupported **
x11-plugins/beryl-plugins-vidcap **

# Window Decorators
x11-wm/emerald **
x11-themes/emerald-themes **
x11-wm/aquamarine **
x11-wm/heliodor **

# FINE XGL e BERYL
media-libs/freetype
x11-libs/libXft
x11-drivers/ati-drivers
x11-apps/ati-drivers-extra
net-wireless/kismet
dev-java/sun-jdk
dev-java/sun-jre
virtual/jre
virtual/jdk
dev-java/sun-jre-bin
media-libs/win32codecs

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# Dependencies
dev-util/git
media-libs/glitz
media-libs/mesa
x11-apps/mesa-progs
sys-apps/man
x11-libs/cairo
dev-python/pycairo
x11-libs/qt
x11-misc/util-macros
x11-proto/glproto
x11-apps/xvinfo
x11-apps/xlsclients
x11-libs/libwnck
x11-misc/xwinwrap
virtual/xft
gnome-base/gconf
gnome-base/libgnomeui
x11-libs/gtk+
dev-libs/glib
x11-libs/libdrm

#XGL Package
x11-base/xgl

Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Thursday 01 March 2007 18:06:47 Turi Tropea wrote:
> hi everyone,
> after a fresh installation of gentoo (using the minimal cd)
> i try to emerge kde-meta kde-i18n kdm
> but an error was occured, 41 package blocks the emerge
> there is the output of the emerge --pretend and package.keyword .use
> and .unmask.

> [blocks B     ] =kde-base/kwin-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.5-r3)

Apparently you have monolithic kdebase installed while trying to install split 
kdebase-meta (contains kde-base/kdm and is a dependency of kde-meta). Just 
unmerge kdebase and you should be able to proceed...

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta

[Turi Tropea]

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Bo Ørsted Andresen ha scritto:
>
> Apparently you have monolithic kdebase installed while trying to
install split
> kdebase-meta (contains kde-base/kdm and is a dependency of kde-meta). Just
> unmerge kdebase and you should be able to proceed...
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml
>
the kde related packages was installed by beryl and aquamarine...so if
i unmerge them can i cause that beryl does not work?
or how i can have a functional kde environment using the monolithic
ebuild?
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Thursday 01 March 2007, Turi Tropea <turitropea@libero.it> wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta':
> Bo Ørsted Andresen ha scritto:
> > Just unmerge kdebase and you should be able to proceed...
>
> the kde related packages was installed by beryl and aquamarine...so if
> i unmerge them can i cause that beryl does not work?
> or how i can have a functional kde environment using the monolithic
> ebuild?

Monolithic or split ebuilds provide a functional kde environment and split 
ebuilds are the "new hotness" that should, at least IMO, be used by 
default.  When (e.g.) all the split ebuilds pulled in by kdebase-meta are 
installed you have the same functionality as installing kdebase; so if 
beryl (or others) have a hard dependency on a monolithic package that 
package is broken and need to be fixed to work with the split ebuilds.  
(Changing the 'kde-base/kdebase' atom to '|| ( kde-base/kdebase-meta 
kdebase/kdebase)' is a start...)

Your problem is that you are trying to mix them.  That is difficult or 
impossible and is AFAIK not supported.  Either remove all your monolithic 
packages and install the split equivalents (the -meta packages help here) 
or remove all your split packages and install all the monolithic packages 
you need.

It's possible  you may need to run revdep-rebuild (from the gentoolkit 
package) and/or reinstall keryl after you fix your kde issues for it to 
work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:54:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Your problem is that you are trying to mix them.  That is difficult or
> impossible and is AFAIK not supported.  Either remove all your monolithic
> packages and install the split equivalents (the -meta packages help here)
> or remove all your split packages and install all the monolithic packages
> you need.

Quoting [1]: "Split and monolithic ebuilds can be mixed freely. The only 
restriction is that a monolithic ebuild can't be installed at the same time 
as a split ebuild deriving from it. There are blocking dependencies in the 
ebuilds that enforce this, so you can do anything emerge allows you to do."

So emerging say kdebase (monolithic) and kpdf (split but not from kdebase) at 
the same time is quite supported. It just prevents you from emerging either 
of kde-meta or kde since they are all split or all monolithic respectively. 
I'm in favour of removing the monolithic ebuilds too though. They seem to 
cause more confusion than they are worth. :)

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Thursday 01 March 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging kde-meta':
> On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:54:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > Your problem is that you are trying to mix them.  That is difficult or
> > impossible and is AFAIK not supported.
>
> Quoting [1]: "Split and monolithic ebuilds can be mixed freely. The only
> restriction is that a monolithic ebuild can't be installed at the same
> time as a split ebuild deriving from it. There are blocking dependencies
> in the ebuilds that enforce this, so you can do anything emerge allows
> you to do."

Sweet.  I didn't know the Gentoo devs were that cool.  The restriction is 
only logical.

> I'm in favour of removing the monolithic
> ebuilds too though. They seem to cause more confusion than they are
> worth. :)

Agreed.  It's always possible for ebuild developers to depend on the -meta 
package until they can determine what individual libraries/apps/etc. they 
need from it.  Unfortunately, until we get a good confcache-style program, 
emerging the -meta ebuild does take a bit longer than emerging the 
monolithic version.  (Yes, I konw, this time is saved later on when you 
don't have to compile everything again for a later release.)

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