* [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?)
@ 2007-02-24 19:50 Gyuszk
2007-02-24 19:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
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From: Gyuszk @ 2007-02-24 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Dear gentoo users,
As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
Thanks a lot
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 19:50 [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?) Gyuszk
@ 2007-02-24 19:58 ` Grant Edwards
2007-02-24 21:04 ` Thomas Rösner
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2007-02-24 21:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Jakob Buchgraber
2007-02-24 21:11 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
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From: Grant Edwards @ 2007-02-24 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <hangcsapda@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear gentoo users,
>
> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
Some licensing BS or other.
> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
If you want it to call itself "Firefox" add mozbranding to your
USE flags.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 19:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2007-02-24 21:04 ` Thomas Rösner
2007-02-24 22:03 ` Gyuszk
2007-02-24 22:05 ` Gyuszk
2007-02-26 6:05 ` Mark Kirkwood
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From: Thomas Rösner @ 2007-02-24 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Grant Edwards schrieb:
> On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <hangcsapda@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear gentoo users,
>>
>> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
>> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
>> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
>>
>
> Some licensing BS or other.
>
Trademark Law, to be exact, and Mozilla.com's policy of not allowing
patched Firefoxes to wear their brand badge. Debian calls it Iceweasel.
(Ubuntu too?).
Regards,
T.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 19:50 [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?) Gyuszk
2007-02-24 19:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2007-02-24 21:06 ` Jakob Buchgraber
2007-02-24 21:11 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
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From: Jakob Buchgraber @ 2007-02-24 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Gyuszk wrote:
> Dear gentoo users,
>
> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
Check out the article about Bon Echo on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox#Trademark_and_logo_issues
Cheers,
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 19:50 [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?) Gyuszk
2007-02-24 19:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2007-02-24 21:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Jakob Buchgraber
@ 2007-02-24 21:11 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
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From: Bo Ørsted Andresen @ 2007-02-24 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Saturday 24 February 2007 20:50:37 Gyuszk wrote:
> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/faq.html
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 21:04 ` Thomas Rösner
@ 2007-02-24 22:03 ` Gyuszk
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From: Gyuszk @ 2007-02-24 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Thomas Rösner írta:
> Grant Edwards schrieb:
>> On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <hangcsapda@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear gentoo users,
>>>
>>> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
>>> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
>>> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
>>>
>>
>> Some licensing BS or other.
>>
>
> Trademark Law, to be exact, and Mozilla.com's policy of not allowing
> patched Firefoxes to wear their brand badge. Debian calls it
> Iceweasel. (Ubuntu too?).
>
> Regards,
> T.
>
>
No, Ubuntu has made deal with Mozilla. They can use Firefox and
Thunderbird brands.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 19:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2007-02-24 21:04 ` Thomas Rösner
@ 2007-02-24 22:05 ` Gyuszk
2007-02-25 2:19 ` Grant
2007-02-26 6:05 ` Mark Kirkwood
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From: Gyuszk @ 2007-02-24 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Grant Edwards írta:
> On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <hangcsapda@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear gentoo users,
>>
>> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
>> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
>> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
>>
>
> Some licensing BS or other.
>
>
>> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
>>
>
> If you want it to call itself "Firefox" add mozbranding to your
> USE flags.
>
>
Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some branding
issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use Debian's
Iceweasel name.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 22:05 ` Gyuszk
@ 2007-02-25 2:19 ` Grant
2007-02-25 3:29 ` »Q«
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From: Grant @ 2007-02-25 2:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> >> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
> >> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
> >> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
> >>
> >
> > Some licensing BS or other.
> >
> >
> >> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
> >>
> >
> > If you want it to call itself "Firefox" add mozbranding to your
> > USE flags.
> >
> >
> Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some branding
> issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use Debian's
> Iceweasel name.
I agree. It's confusing that the brand-less name is the same as the
development name.
- Grant
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 2:19 ` Grant
@ 2007-02-25 3:29 ` »Q«
2007-02-25 18:55 ` Dan Farrell
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From: »Q« @ 2007-02-25 3:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
In <news:49bf44f10702241819q687bdda1le058ab7c27c60b77@mail.gmail.com>,
Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some
> > branding issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use
> > Debian's Iceweasel name.
>
> I agree. It's confusing that the brand-less name is the same as the
> development name.
I don't seen anything about it at bugs.gentoo.org; you could file a
bug. I'm not sure anyone would be motivated to patch it, though. As
it is now, (well, AIUI) the USE flag just controls the
--enable-official-branding switch for compiling and the "Bon Echo" you
see is just an artifact of the way Mozilla ships its source code.
I think something other than "Iceweasel" would be preferable,
since Debian and GNU both have Iceweasel projects.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 3:29 ` »Q«
@ 2007-02-25 18:55 ` Dan Farrell
2007-02-25 19:07 ` Joe Menola
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From: Dan Farrell @ 2007-02-25 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:29:24 -0600
»Q« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:
> In <news:49bf44f10702241819q687bdda1le058ab7c27c60b77@mail.gmail.com>,
> Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some
> > > branding issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use
> > > Debian's Iceweasel name.
> >
> > I agree. It's confusing that the brand-less name is the same as the
> > development name.
>
> I don't seen anything about it at bugs.gentoo.org; you could file a
> bug. I'm not sure anyone would be motivated to patch it, though. As
> it is now, (well, AIUI) the USE flag just controls the
> --enable-official-branding switch for compiling and the "Bon Echo" you
> see is just an artifact of the way Mozilla ships its source code.
>
> I think something other than "Iceweasel" would be preferable,
> since Debian and GNU both have Iceweasel projects.
>
but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 18:55 ` Dan Farrell
@ 2007-02-25 19:07 ` Joe Menola
2007-02-25 19:27 ` Grant Edwards
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From: Joe Menola @ 2007-02-25 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
> but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name.
I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells me what it
is....
-jm
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 19:07 ` Joe Menola
@ 2007-02-25 19:27 ` Grant Edwards
2007-02-25 20:35 ` Korthrun
2007-02-27 0:18 ` Dan Farrell
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From: Grant Edwards @ 2007-02-25 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2007-02-25, Joe Menola <menola@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
>> but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name.
>
> I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells me what it
> is....
Um, if you're not allowed to use the trademarked name
"firefox", then calling it "firefox_alt" is also going to be a
trademark violation.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 19:27 ` Grant Edwards
@ 2007-02-25 20:35 ` Korthrun
2007-02-25 22:15 ` Willie Wong
2007-02-27 0:18 ` Dan Farrell
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From: Korthrun @ 2007-02-25 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2/25/07, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
> On 2007-02-25, Joe Menola <menola@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
> >> but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name.
> >
> > I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells me what it
> > is....
>
> Um, if you're not allowed to use the trademarked name
> "firefox", then calling it "firefox_alt" is also going to be a
> trademark violation.
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! Do I hear th'
> at SPINNING of various
> visi.com WHIRRING, ROUND, and WARM
> WHIRLOMATICS?!
>
> --
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>
>
Iceweasel for life.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 20:35 ` Korthrun
@ 2007-02-25 22:15 ` Willie Wong
2007-02-25 23:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Christian Marie
2007-02-26 7:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Iain Buchanan
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From: Willie Wong @ 2007-02-25 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:35:33PM -0700, Penguin Lover Korthrun squawked:
> Iceweasel for life.
Getting a bit off topic here...
But IceWeasel to me means something like "Distant third cousin with
some contradictory philosophy" to FireFox, like, say, Galeon or
Kazehakase.
I prefer something like FlameCanid that more properly expresses the
fact that "ours" is almost-exactly-but-not-quite-perfectly-the-same.
:)
W
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 22:15 ` Willie Wong
@ 2007-02-25 23:06 ` Christian Marie
2007-02-25 23:29 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-02-26 7:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Iain Buchanan
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From: Christian Marie @ 2007-02-25 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:15:14PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote:
> I prefer something like FlameCanid that more properly expresses the
> fact that "ours" is almost-exactly-but-not-quite-perfectly-the-same.
We use Bon Echo as it's upstreams default unbranded name. Many other
distros are using Bon Echo and changing it to something else would
require a reasonably painful amount of patching and maintenance.
You are allowed to build Firefox with branding, you can't distribute any
binaries you build though. We're currently considering enabling branding
by default with USE=bindist however it's a complicated issue.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 23:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Christian Marie
@ 2007-02-25 23:29 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
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From: Bo Ørsted Andresen @ 2007-02-25 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Monday 26 February 2007 00:06:55 Christian Marie wrote:
> You are allowed to build Firefox with branding, you can't distribute any
> binaries you build though. We're currently considering enabling branding
> by default with USE=bindist however it's a complicated issue.
I assume you meant when USE=bindist is disabled.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-24 19:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2007-02-24 21:04 ` Thomas Rösner
2007-02-24 22:05 ` Gyuszk
@ 2007-02-26 6:05 ` Mark Kirkwood
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From: Mark Kirkwood @ 2007-02-26 6:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> If you want it to call itself "Firefox" add mozbranding to your
> USE flags.
>
Thanks for bringing this up! My mother has been a little confused about
this "Bon Echo" thing - and (re) emerging with USE="mozbranding" got
Firefox "back" for her, along with its expected icon.
Cheers
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 22:15 ` Willie Wong
2007-02-25 23:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Christian Marie
@ 2007-02-26 7:19 ` Iain Buchanan
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From: Iain Buchanan @ 2007-02-26 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:15 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:35:33PM -0700, Penguin Lover Korthrun squawked:
> > Iceweasel for life.
>
> Getting a bit off topic here...
what is a topic for, if not for getting "off"?!
> But IceWeasel to me means something like "Distant third cousin with
> some contradictory philosophy" to FireFox, like, say, Galeon or
> Kazehakase.
I agree. What the hell is Bon Echo to someone who barely knows what
firefox is?!
> I prefer something like FlameCanid that more properly expresses the
> fact that "ours" is almost-exactly-but-not-quite-perfectly-the-same.
or Flamefox? or Hotfox, or Earthcat or Plasmadonkey, or Iceweasel... oh,
we ruled out that one...
but something that won't change with new firefox releases is a good
idea.
cya,
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-25 19:27 ` Grant Edwards
2007-02-25 20:35 ` Korthrun
@ 2007-02-27 0:18 ` Dan Farrell
2007-02-27 0:51 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
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From: Dan Farrell @ 2007-02-27 0:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:27:17 +0000 (UTC)
Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
> On 2007-02-25, Joe Menola <menola@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
> >> but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name.
> >
> > I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells
> > me what it is....
>
> Um, if you're not allowed to use the trademarked name
> "firefox", then calling it "firefox_alt" is also going to be a
> trademark violation.
>
This reminds me of when it was called "FireBird", and then they had to
change the name becuase of trademark violations or something of the
sort. I laughed at the time, thinking how this little fledgling
browser was irritating the supergiants. Now it's firefox that won't
'share' it's name, even with what is obstensiably the same thing. It's
amusing. And wasn't there even another , pre'Firefox' name for the
browser?
I like the idea of calling it a blatant (but legal) ripoff, like
'FlameVixen' or something.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-27 0:18 ` Dan Farrell
@ 2007-02-27 0:51 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-02-27 12:02 ` Jürgen Geuter
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From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. @ 2007-02-27 0:51 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Monday 26 February 2007, Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote about 'Re:
[gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)':
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:27:17 +0000 (UTC)
> Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
> > On 2007-02-25, Joe Menola <menola@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
> > >> but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name.
> > >
> > > I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells
> > > me what it is....
> >
> > Um, if you're not allowed to use the trademarked name
> > "firefox", then calling it "firefox_alt" is also going to be a
> > trademark violation.
>
> This reminds me of when it was called "FireBird", and then they had to
> change the name becuase of trademark violations or something of the
> sort.
It was actually much less serious. Firebird is an open-source database
that's been around (although not that popular) for longer than the mozilla
project. The browser graciously decided, after notification (no posturing
or threatening) by the database team not to overlap the names presumably
to avoid confusing users.
Now, that decision may have been made for a different reason. The company
behind firefox probably wanted to be able to use the name as a
trademark/brand at some point in the future and the pre-existing project
may have undermind that.
IIRC, there was also a similar issue with the name "Pheonix".
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)
2007-02-27 0:51 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
@ 2007-02-27 12:02 ` Jürgen Geuter
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From: Jürgen Geuter @ 2007-02-27 12:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:51 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> IIRC, there was also a similar issue with the name "Pheonix".
I always thought that it could not be called Phoenix anymore because of
the BIOS manufacturer (http://phoenix.com)?
regards
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