Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Paul Sebastian Ziegler]

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I dont know about your X Server (there are some great guides out there -
don't despair, it never worked for me in the first run either) but I
think I have a clue to whats with you network card:

The LiveCD has a kernel with all the drivers enabled as modules (or
probably build in). The kernel you compiled yourself will probably not
have those.
Try this: Find out what kind of network card you have (Bo Andresen wrote
in his mail how to do this) - go back and configure the Kernel - you can
find the ethernet-drivers under Device Drivers -> Network Device Support
- -> Ethernet (10 or 100 Mbit) || Ethernet (1000 Mbit) || Ethernet (10000
Mbit). Now find your card's driver (read the help-pages or search the
web if you don't know it) and build it into your kernel (press "y").
Then recompile your kernel and boot it.

You should see your card with ifconfig -a now.

HTH
Paul

Scott W. McMikle schrieb:
> I have used Mandriva and Kubuntu and several other distributions before
> I thought I would give Gentoo a try because I like to tweak and learn
> more about Linux.  The live cd works great on my machine, but when I
> attempted to install Gentoo on that same machine, X does not work, nor
> does my network connection.  I have tried the Gentoo handbook, but I am
> unable to find the answers to solve my problems.  I have found myself
> quickly over my head and now I begin to wonder if I am not quite ready
> for Gentoo.  What would you all recommend?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Scott W. McMikle]

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Forgive me, but I will need step by step instructions to recompile with the
necessary driver.

On 2/21/07, Paul Sebastian Ziegler <psz@observed.de> wrote:
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> I dont know about your X Server (there are some great guides out there -
> don't despair, it never worked for me in the first run either) but I
> think I have a clue to whats with you network card:
>
> The LiveCD has a kernel with all the drivers enabled as modules (or
> probably build in). The kernel you compiled yourself will probably not
> have those.
> Try this: Find out what kind of network card you have (Bo Andresen wrote
> in his mail how to do this) - go back and configure the Kernel - you can
> find the ethernet-drivers under Device Drivers -> Network Device Support
> - -> Ethernet (10 or 100 Mbit) || Ethernet (1000 Mbit) || Ethernet (10000
> Mbit). Now find your card's driver (read the help-pages or search the
> web if you don't know it) and build it into your kernel (press "y").
> Then recompile your kernel and boot it.
>
> You should see your card with ifconfig -a now.
>
> HTH
> Paul
>
> Scott W. McMikle schrieb:
> > I have used Mandriva and Kubuntu and several other distributions before
> > I thought I would give Gentoo a try because I like to tweak and learn
> > more about Linux.  The live cd works great on my machine, but when I
> > attempted to install Gentoo on that same machine, X does not work, nor
> > does my network connection.  I have tried the Gentoo handbook, but I am
> > unable to find the answers to solve my problems.  I have found myself
> > quickly over my head and now I begin to wonder if I am not quite ready
> > for Gentoo.  What would you all recommend?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[b.n.]

Scott W. McMikle ha scritto:
> Forgive me, but I will need step by step instructions to recompile with
> the necessary driver.

Never ask for "step-by-step" instructions.
Ask for where to find information and how do things work, so you can
actually *learn* by yourself what you are doing (instead of dumbily
following mechanical instructions. You are not dumb, are you? :) )

In this case, you can find a good guide to recompile your kernel in the
Gentoo Wiki. I won't give you the URL ;), but you can find it very
easily yourself using A Big Search Engine With A White And Clean Start
Page...

m.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Scott W. McMikle]

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OK, I will consider myself duly chastised. ;-)

On 2/22/07, b.n. <brullonulla@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Scott W. McMikle ha scritto:
> > Forgive me, but I will need step by step instructions to recompile with
> > the necessary driver.
>
> Never ask for "step-by-step" instructions.
> Ask for where to find information and how do things work, so you can
> actually *learn* by yourself what you are doing (instead of dumbily
> following mechanical instructions. You are not dumb, are you? :) )
>
> In this case, you can find a good guide to recompile your kernel in the
> Gentoo Wiki. I won't give you the URL ;), but you can find it very
> easily yourself using A Big Search Engine With A White And Clean Start
> Page...
>
> m.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[b.n.]

Scott W. McMikle ha scritto:
> OK, I will consider myself duly chastised. ;-)

I didn't mean to be rude :), of course if you need specific help you are
more than welcome. And if you *really* need step-by-step directions, we
can point you to the right page.

However getting directions and then try/look for yourself it is the
*best* way to learn (not only Linux). We're here to teach you how to
fish, not to give you cheap fishes to leave you hungry again after a few
hours.

Sometimes it's good to have people to whisper in your ear where to find
good fish and avoid poisoned ones, of course.

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Scott W. McMikle]

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Thank you all for your support.  If you don't mind the questions, then I
will ask, providing as much info as I can so that you can help.  I thought
perhaps that I would have to give up Gentoo until such time that my Linux
skills have improved.

Scott


On 2/21/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <bss03@volumehost.net> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2007, "Scott W. McMikle" <lxrules@gmail.com>
> wrote
> about '[gentoo-user] Recommendation':
> > I have found myself
> > quickly over my head and now I begin to wonder if I am not quite ready
> > for Gentoo.  What would you all recommend?
>
> Ask good specific, questions early and often.  Use all the Gentoo support
> options (IRC/email/forums) and read the wiki.  Have another, working
> system available (dual-boot maybe) until you trust your Gentoo system.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Wednesday 21 February 2007, "Scott W. McMikle" <lxrules@gmail.com> wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation':
> I
> thought perhaps that I would have to give up Gentoo until such time that
> my Linux skills have improved.

Worst case, you'll get instructions you don't understand and you'll have to 
ask us how to do use them. :)  The best way to develop you linux skills is 
to use them. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Scott W. McMikle]

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I have the HP m7357c computer with the Asus P5LP-LE motherboard, 1.5 GB
RAM.  I am using the on-board audio card; Realtek ALC 882 CODEC, and the
on-board network card; Intel 82562GT, and lastly the video card; NVIDIA
GeForce 6200SE Turbo Cache

On 2/21/07, Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradisnet.nz> wrote:
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> Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>
> >> nor does my network connection.
> >
> > We sort of need to know which nic you have. If you really have no clue
> use
> > `lspci`. I believe it's on the livecd if you can't emerge pciutils due
> to the
> > lack of network. `lsmod` or `dmesg | grep Link` executed from the livecd
> > should be helpful too...
> >
>
> Telling us the make and model no of your motherboard might mean we can
> give you a good hint about which network controller you need to configure!
>
> Also you may as well tell us the make and model of your video card too
> (unless its included on the motherboard), then we can suggest which of
> the various X config guides to use.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Scott W. McMikle]

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Here are the errors I receive when I attempt startx;

failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extentsions/libGLcore.so
failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
failed to load module "VESA" (module does not exist, 0)
failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
failed to load module 'mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
No Drivers Available


On 2/21/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2007 22:07:17 Scott W. McMikle wrote:
> > I have used Mandriva and Kubuntu and several other distributions before
> I
> > thought I would give Gentoo a try because I like to tweak and learn more
> > about Linux.  The live cd works great on my machine, but when I
> attempted
> > to install Gentoo on that same machine, X does not work,
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
>
> It that doesn't help look for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
>
> # egrep "(EE|WW)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> > nor does my network connection.
>
> We sort of need to know which nic you have. If you really have no clue use
> `lspci`. I believe it's on the livecd if you can't emerge pciutils due to
> the
> lack of network. `lsmod` or `dmesg | grep Link` executed from the livecd
> should be helpful too...
>
> --
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>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Jakob]

> failed to load
> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extentsions/libGLcore.so
> failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
> failed to load module "VESA" (module does not exist, 0)
> failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
> failed to load module 'mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
> No Drivers Available

First you have to decide if you want to use the free or the closed
nvidia driver. note: the closed source driver is only necessary if you
need 3d support e.g. for games.

Then set your VIDEO_CARDS variable in /etc/make.conf to the driver you
want to use, this should pull in the driver you need as an dependency
of xorg-server.

nano -w /etc/make.conf
add the line VIDEO_CARDS="nv" #for open source driver
or VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" #for the binary nvidia driver
hit ctrl+x to exit and y to apply the changes
then emerge -av xorg-server
and see if the driver you want to use is pulled in as dependency
after emerge is finished run xorgconfig.

hope this helps.

greez

Jakob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Thursday 22 February 2007 04:45:02 Scott W. McMikle wrote:
> Here are the errors I receive when I attempt startx;
>
> failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extentsions/libGLcore.so
> failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
> failed to load module "VESA" (module does not exist, 0)
> failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
> failed to load module 'mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
> No Drivers Available

Hmm... did you follow the xorg-config guide?

# eselect opengl list

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoolkit.xml

# equery check x11-base/xorg-server

# equery check x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa

# equery check x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse

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