From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1H3v1a-0004Kl-EP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:58:54 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l08DsaEE031870; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:54:36 GMT Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l08Dohjf018381 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:50:45 GMT Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i20so2843301wra for ; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:50:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Di5S7jdmni0BswXIsrPAxFGR9RFEkNDX7622960YnG192C0jhq3V9VuQEwWHWsGldjZPka/T1aBzCNyZtbfxrXeF9/Gp76ob1GADml63v5fxUTte8S3EM+bQAvO/UBxw1BaqjFKZNlNn2cL88By8S+oHVWzyoeTVuC4mhiqS40o= Received: by 10.90.103.2 with SMTP id a2mr2048918agc.1168264242219; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.199? ( [193.219.222.240]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 30sm37671733agc.2007.01.08.05.50.37; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:50:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45A24C17.8070004@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:50:15 +0100 From: Martin Pittle User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060731) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Through the looking glass: Reflections on Gentoo References: <20070107235159.cbf19bdd.hilse@web.de> <20070108001543.GA11109@archimedes> In-Reply-To: <20070108001543.GA11109@archimedes> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a31dd210-ae19-4768-8bb7-f7bcce982889 X-Archives-Hash: 44ba079d2902a49ae966f0ecc77ae1f8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Justin Findlay wrote: > On AD 2007 January 07 Sunday 11:51:59 PM +0100, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: >> But *I*, as a user (this is -user, after all!) don't feel bothered by >> any kind of bureaucracy. Please explain first why I should take action >> at all at the moment. And why I shouldn't just go and take the next >> distro that fits my needs best (brrrr, Slackware :-)? > > You won't be bothered by bureacuracy untill the day you discover that > that package you want has been left months ago to fall into ignominious > forgottenness among the thicket of bugzilla ebuild requests or the day > you discover your favorite package hasn't been updated in 2 years and > the herd responsible won't (or can't?) respond to email inquiries. You > will care that day when you realize many things that are wrong with > gentoo may be the result of corruption or inefficiency. > > You should care because not even Free Software or gentoo is free. As in > politics apathy will only get you what you want or keep the affairs of > state safely insulated in the bureaucracy as long as somebody favorable > or benign is in power. You may be satisfied with gentoo now but what > will you do when emerge --sync stops working because somebody stopped > caring? I don't claim that everybody should contribute the same effort > or work or any work at all, but rather that you ought to at least care. > > Go ahead and pick up a copy of the next distro when gentoo crumbles to > the ground but at least reflect then that each distro out there is made > great by the work of lots of talented developers, volunteers most of > them, because they care because they love hacking software. > > This isn't meant to chasten anyone into a state of open source piety, > but rather is offered as a somewhat incoherent argument for why caring > matters, because in the end free software is a human endeavor. > > > Justin Well said, Justin. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFokwW3Surd6QUhwQRAlcFAJ9ygdwtbhi7RhdAmTavxwjW47TEZACgiHf7 CCPfOAS0URrq9KN50KuB6P0= =BEPU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list