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[74.188.246.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y23sm872225otk.10.2020.05.20.10.14.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 May 2020 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] sddm-helper and high memory usage To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <706b68ae-a6d7-db97-33e2-98838682befc@gmail.com> <21809910.6Emhk5qWAg@eve> <4534674.GXAFRqVoOG@peak> From: Dale Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFxc7MgBEAC+zrgEdqJJiDe/UDAB+ScmferXWfJTVjbVT2T4DQ7jiLrgP9aNUo1HioNF mrU3JPOCR32gvZyTbY1+niO5+VSo/+pSqQ785h6ZDj1klMkrg6tEzGnf2MNBpBj4houZwxQ+ WDKKTg2M9F+lv8wTIdR/JQn+hSviktLMtrghQlyLhpapsLXWLA6gMFebpQYwxUwemvan8ddX lQvJe9FGyFYvBi0dp1gl10F2O+DVZJxvX8xkX+yImVlhVJiC31gXHRcj+Qlo7gprlU7TIieF Uow6/ZvYKJ26pztVdFCg5w0rMJkF/x8Zd4A6wnuptiAPmWaQ1+YKgYDonbDUgwqFSx5/lN5z DGZ4LlioxeUTTPVvZsqBIeDz6jNFA583OYbo1/S26dqrvTFf2DKlsvoDpVfAhNlwJPjoixs0 X3FNqPv+M10n4kq5Iz7Q9E3O4s/nfFIYGocEslVka7zZPkXSaHbsn+KJlY8XV6qxtCEdh0/V XX1+1aU2J74M0JikWhpwxTZ1dP5aOyWSPPEgFFIRW6xwwC02SoRH9a7mggfGYp/YjPlONNaT SCL8sgRfvmq3D0XTbLyTjSbExxkfKDmbePQagawDE3TlI/oivHf1JaAcbwMb3LZuU4TGcOIl 5D+x7q0MUIeCop0ZFOwAnqW3AVVNvsBkv2KN+IHJryWAf0/iMQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgWIQTZ7suruPBaS60bCYXvEM/XWu+ZnAUCXFzs yAIbIwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDvEM/XWu+ZnN+7D/4/1dNG4aCz0+v+ 0dcjV5tY1feYEWCdHKyDzxWBxlCpd/0NPRQeNY4VMjbCl/sq7GkXi/c2SbfWDQ5BQRkkExG1 pSwuXSIehGok/4fpTi3HDAguRvzdCqlKPt7me05FyiC/WnpY5GOlJ3ruGw2qABv/RmV2q5b/ tkq7h1y1f16DTNr3/nsj8HzHcrHdXdL4kaYChSOe/dbQR9Stqak7eMyR+iwvrJMNF/CGl70P 2x5ybsXMDzRVOqNcpa5ZdhEMTVh6+vC1SOmm1BFMF8XCqBEvBbcHWDQmGYTdNCsS/ADm8CBl gvjJgLdIsAzoMu4WHQDFnzXAoArqFWgAf53isOS4AWrv29tF9b8Aa1vb7h5JEa+ArcMsA6Gl X38+GY6WXXaxKI9n3PTCWu9tPGnRh7mABjnwEosDDqmzw8aTAYECb3avDuGY2rmcjgh4H6RE w08d63j1T4d5J9wlm4TGtW/VHgbUFkATEdH3Acl/EjFiyqTiX7p8kU6Reu5enIkogA93xoQh Rmy7ZiST/5LN+ZkaOdyjIw0L+5KalslN9SKt809YxgJ6kPo657LNTFPiFvFA46/SEWcBYrzq Xk0wEW0gBRWf+BqN0qRhU0/EQ+QfRdLLFg2xtUePwlheYLXxfyDLrdCCOLWYpkzbjCZHLS4u 69smbvR9S9KBDNzJybxEWrkCDQRcXOzIARAA5IGRWTqaM44IJgBYghZg2fGj0Am7KWPhE7V7 T/EEe7vVSUEFqHtlHzI4ZK6Q0AZ9uAEjE8IJIQ7KoTjzNqAtabP0vp3s0szgtJlsZ+8vGKlQ my7fvzSrdoQL0Xn7CEwJYFXJ1EMUcYIQeoHG1cUAaXx73k9BFbjwjnUeMrqlV/ZovQlg7duW nESfQ7HZu5NrtYyY3jPMUouxiO9WQPh+IHxZbt1absF2VcvRAymD32RxGvMPbw6ChMRD/p9O 4PH7M5rXaxr78NXQX9E48vrI00f1cYb9NSN1HnSV8cW3jKObVjdBk6jPQwrMvdpgdQhUB9aZ HS/9mC9mmAgiXKyCpzXe7FPB6QznSfn4GIaC/luy1e6SLUkJhRK/niB+gq+Mfxg2zXNuDUTI cMGmpDCp3kgUoorkaltk8RW09io95BkXrGhcDNuSGZfAParBc7RXyYpbIcax8St7tEAd2oFh 4seYOPUlzuhGrPpqR/91wrFc4E1260GKauSr4UhMJv6tygBwyC0mmBMKi+ZXw6ZdZxA5fg7y 35P3TILjznCXXTDgRHq9A3NknKRMcgFacX6eIhANkMFo6oJVjuEgy1dvu1wFfDq7c+i8GAHu L4pYzyXYu6PporlNNU0xSwdVgzM/uuK0lt+UxCimgC+YR3IezgDcbfudb7h9dGIwL+bbPL0A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIBYhBNnuy6u48FpLrRsJhe8Qz9da75mcBQJcXOzIAhsMAAoJEO8Qz9da 75mcXZ4P/1YXgWDZek7mhzrf6uaQzMxa92P89HeWz4PlgB/32symeEFAV04WazzBZffI8AYY rGA1Xmu/2VaB9+FOODyKhUWBc2UL0NRWBk6POwboyTdKlclmpixaN9zLcBt0YLejoRfN1B/5 aQf9/lUDZMnAiCyz0FgeqEMUshldmwWC35RqnjrCbbuk2vIqSH6BLDIXU6jQrLHE1DF0ai41 wLtQFAFXPhn45n0ZwYhVs4Z32z4sjXrIvgBgCaXa4HM+L1Klne0KiNM8ReFTTpTE0SgyDOSZ O3MOa2n77i6JbVtsbiFYnNeP3J9S/l3jevGpZEtNQOKrIm1MW8jGuHWtsDeMkT/mCcSodlkt PxIo+mMK9GpGvG2hW80LiohqNfUbNwAmr3blOYY4URPXPRnEnPs4pmTmL5owjw2dkg145i9I D42Tq+XZ6YtWt3SGzGbAYow6XwTwZ5NFAzV9UQuCGrDw4KWan6O6Z+VIYWsn0UMZlu1Obxna aocofkaUCbISK26kImuD1aA8juSHC18Qv1xUage6/UakbSxyDtACqt6hOVFKX3IA59ApdNRT +2x3iCmlvF9MJsGgFq6IpqL+Fk7iWV8Kjbz0wQOId6N9+JdQh3LrLaS7a1PowUm1z9DK5/O0 Yg+gpDnEOOFI7WM5u7a7FSM2Z/LXGVwel/0eWvLk9tN6 Message-ID: <4582ec1f-156f-ad6a-649c-8a1cd1deba65@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 12:14:04 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4534674.GXAFRqVoOG@peak> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0434E7E624037F3DE8826019" X-Archives-Salt: 570f00e0-087a-444f-9f6b-5f6be9ea169c X-Archives-Hash: 52ff76d2b0279e1919f862b596064c91 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0434E7E624037F3DE8826019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:56:29 BST Dale wrote: > >> Well, I didn't know I could kill that thing. I been logging out and >> back in which annoys the stuffing out of me. I have to close three >> browsers, several file managers plus whatever else I am doing before I >> can logout. Then I have to reopen all that when I log back in. > Why do you have to do that yourself? I'd have thought that sddm would take > care of it for you. It does for me. I have a saved session but if I restart everything at once, my internet chokes and some tabs fail to load.  So, I have the basic stuff in a saved session but still have to do some myself.  Of course I close stuff before logging out just to be safe.  >> On top of that, I have to wait for a download to stop as well. Yea, it's >> annoying, putting it mildly. lol I thought if I killed it, it would >> take the whole GUI thingy with it . Since it is still chewing away, >> makes me think about the Pacman days, I'll kill that thing in a few >> minutes, after closing important stuff first just in case. > Whenever an update changes a lot of GUI stuff I drop to a VT and tell it "/etc/ > init.d/xdm restart && logout". That ought to be equivalent to killing sddm but > kinder. > In this case, just logging out and right back in works.  The first time I did it, I switched to a terminal and checked after logging out.  The memory sddm was using was already down to almost nothing.  I knew then that logging out and right back in was enough.  It only takes a few seconds to log out and back in but it is annoying because at times, I may have 40 tabs open.  Those have to reload as well which with my DSL, takes a while.  After a update, especially a KDE or qt update, I logout and go to boot runlevel and back.  That restarts everything KDE plus others that may need restarting as well.  I find some stuff is real touchy after updates.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------0434E7E624037F3DE8826019 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:56:29 BST Dale wrote:


Well, I didn't know I could kill that thing.  I been logging out and
back in which annoys the stuffing out of me.  I have to close three
browsers, several file managers plus whatever else I am doing before I
can logout.  Then I have to reopen all that when I log back in.

Why do you have to do that yourself? I'd have thought that sddm would take 
care of it for you. It does for me.

I have a saved session but if I restart everything at once, my internet chokes and some tabs fail to load.  So, I have the basic stuff in a saved session but still have to do some myself.  Of course I close stuff before logging out just to be safe.  



      

        
On top of that, I have to wait for a download to stop as well.  Yea, it's
annoying, putting it mildly.  lol  I thought if I killed it, it would
take the whole GUI thingy with it .  Since it is still chewing away,
makes me think about the Pacman days, I'll kill that thing in a few
minutes, after closing important stuff first just in case. 


      

      
Whenever an update changes a lot of GUI stuff I drop to a VT and tell it "/etc/
init.d/xdm restart && logout". That ought to be equivalent to killing sddm but 
kinder.



    

    

    

    In this case, just logging out and right back in works.  The first
    time I did it, I switched to a terminal and checked after logging
    out.  The memory sddm was using was already down to almost nothing. 
    I knew then that logging out and right back in was enough.  It only
    takes a few seconds to log out and back in but it is annoying
    because at times, I may have 40 tabs open.  Those have to reload as
    well which with my DSL, takes a while.  

    

    After a update, especially a KDE or qt update, I logout and go to
    boot runlevel and back.  That restarts everything KDE plus others
    that may need restarting as well.  I find some stuff is real touchy
    after updates.  

    

    Dale

    

    :-)  :-)  

  


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