[gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dale]

Hi,

As we all know XMMS was recently removed.  I have a little CD collection
that I want to put on my hard drive and I want to use Amarok to do this.
 I have postgresql installed and am trying to get it setup using the
Gentoo wiki.  This is what I have installed:

> root@smoker / # equery list postgresql
> [ Searching for package 'postgresql' in all categories among: ]
>  * installed packages
> [I--] [  ] dev-db/postgresql-8.0.8 (0)
> root@smoker / # equery list amarok
> [ Searching for package 'amarok' in all categories among: ]
>  * installed packages
> [I--] [  ] media-sound/amarok-1.4.3-r1 (0)
> root@smoker / #


I have never done any of this before.  Somehow, likely by mistake, I got
one CD copied over and can play off the hard drive.  I have no idea how
I did this really.  I need someone on or off list to teach me how to get
the music off the CD, get it into Amarok so I get get this going.  This
looks really cool.

If whoever can help me uses MySql instead, I would be willing to install
it, especially if it is better.  I only want to do CDs.  I have a lousy
dial-up connection here.

Thanks much for any help you can provide.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Robin Atwood]

On Wednesday 25 October 2006 17:49, Dale wrote:
> I have never done any of this before.  Somehow, likely by mistake, I got
> one CD copied over and can play off the hard drive.  I have no idea how
> I did this really.  I need someone on or off list to teach me how to get
> the music off the CD, get it into Amarok so I get get this going.  This
> looks really cool.
> 
> If whoever can help me uses MySql instead, I would be willing to install
> it, especially if it is better.  I only want to do CDs.  I have a lousy
> dial-up connection here.

By default amarok uses a built-in copy of SQlite, so you don't really need MySQL unless
you use it for something else. Postgres is not supported. Rip your CDs with k3b.

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

On Wednesday 25 October 2006 22:08, Robin Atwood wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 17:49, Dale wrote:
> > I have never done any of this before.  Somehow, likely by mistake, I got
> > one CD copied over and can play off the hard drive.  I have no idea how
> > I did this really.  I need someone on or off list to teach me how to get
> > the music off the CD, get it into Amarok so I get get this going.  This
> > looks really cool.
> >
> > If whoever can help me uses MySql instead, I would be willing to install
> > it, especially if it is better.  I only want to do CDs.  I have a lousy
> > dial-up connection here.
>
> By default amarok uses a built-in copy of SQlite, so you don't really need
> MySQL unless you use it for something else. Postgres is not supported. Rip
> your CDs with k3b.

An easy way to rip cds is to go to 'audiocd://' in konqueror, then it will 
show some folders containing mp3s, oggs and flac files which you can then 
copy and paste to whereever you want and the cd ripping and encoding will be 
handled transparently for you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Audiocd:// broken (was: Amarok and getting started)

[b.n.]

Raymond Lewis Rebbeck ha scritto:
> An easy way to rip cds is to go to 'audiocd://' in konqueror, then it will 
> show some folders containing mp3s, oggs and flac files which you can then 
> copy and paste to whereever you want and the cd ripping and encoding will be 
> handled transparently for you.

When, months ago, kde 3.5 went stable and I switched, my audiocd:// 
seems horribly broken. Sad, because I did love that feature a lot.

When I put the audiocd in and I click on the icon in media:/ window, KDE 
just says it can't recognize the cd at all (cannot mount, bad superblock 
blahblah).

The cd's play just fine if I play them with, let's say, XMMS or Xine, so 
it's not hardware fault.

Any hint? I tried emerging and re-emerging kdemultimedia etc. but 
nothing helped.

m.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Audiocd:// broken (was: Amarok and getting started)

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:04:57 +0000, b.n. wrote:

> Raymond Lewis Rebbeck ha scritto:
> > An easy way to rip cds is to go to 'audiocd://' in konqueror, then it
> > will show some folders containing mp3s, oggs and flac files which you
> > can then copy and paste to whereever you want and the cd ripping and
> > encoding will be handled transparently for you.
> 
> When, months ago, kde 3.5 went stable and I switched, my audiocd:// 
> seems horribly broken. Sad, because I did love that feature a lot.

Do you have kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves installed?

It's system:/media/cd now.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dale]

Robin Atwood wrote:

> 
> By default amarok uses a built-in copy of SQlite, so you don't really need MySQL unless
> you use it for something else. Postgres is not supported. Rip your CDs with k3b.
> 
> HTH
> -Robin.

Thanks for the info.  I noticed the first time I started amarok that
postgres was not even running but it didn't seem to notice it.  I don't
remember emergeing it either but I may have.

I did figure out what I did earlier.  Tell me if you think I am doing
wrong here.  When I insert a CD, the window pops up on what to do.  I
select 'extract and encode'.  Then it saves it to ~/wav when I tell it
to 'rip' them.  I then move it to my music directory ~/music.  After
that, Amarok picks it right up and they play fine.

The only thing that I do not like is this.  I have to use the PCM slider
to control my music volume which also controls the volume of the sound
of notifications in KDE too.  So when I turn up the music volume it
seems to turn up everything else too.  Any way around this?

Thanks for the help.  Sometimes I just need a little help getting
started.  I'm disabled so time is something I have to much of sometimes.
 I like to tinker with my rig.

Now to move my OS to another drive without messing up anything.  ;-)
Wish me luck.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Arnau Bria]

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:00:18 -0500
Dale Dale wrote:

> I did figure out what I did earlier.  Tell me if you think I am doing
> wrong here.  When I insert a CD, the window pops up on what to do.  I
> select 'extract and encode'.  Then it saves it to ~/wav when I tell it
> to 'rip' them.  I then move it to my music directory ~/music.  After
> that, Amarok picks it right up and they play fine.

Well, I'm not sure if I've understood you, but I simply put audiocd://
in konqueror and the copy ogg/mp3 folder to wherever I want...

 
> The only thing that I do not like is this.  I have to use the PCM
> slider to control my music volume which also controls the volume of
> the sound of notifications in KDE too.  So when I turn up the music
> volume it seems to turn up everything else too.  Any way around this?

amarok has its own volume control. "Winkey" and "+" or "Winkey" and
"-" 

> Now to move my OS to another drive without messing up anything.  ;-)
> Wish me luck.
good luck!
 
> Thanks
> 
> Dale
Cheers!

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Uwe Thiem]

On 25 October 2006 15:00, Dale wrote:

> I did figure out what I did earlier.  Tell me if you think I am doing
> wrong here.  When I insert a CD, the window pops up on what to do.  I
> select 'extract and encode'.  Then it saves it to ~/wav when I tell it
> to 'rip' them.  I then move it to my music directory ~/music.  After
> that, Amarok picks it right up and they play fine.
>
> The only thing that I do not like is this.  I have to use the PCM slider
> to control my music volume which also controls the volume of the sound
> of notifications in KDE too.  So when I turn up the music volume it
> seems to turn up everything else too.  Any way around this?

Whether amaroK (or any other application) plays a sound file (your music) or 
the system plays a sound file (system notifications) doesn't matter, it *is* 
the same source. So the same volume settings apply. No way around that.

You can, though, control amaroK's volume to a certain extent in amaroK itself. 
Try to put amaroK's internal control to 100% and drop PCM a bit lower. It 
might help though I doubt it will help much. (Don't know for sure because I 
don't use system notifications.)

Uwe 

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:37:30 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:

> You can, though, control amaroK's volume to a certain extent in amaroK
> itself. Try to put amaroK's internal control to 100% and drop PCM a bit
> lower. It might help though I doubt it will help much. (Don't know for
> sure because I don't use system notifications.)

You can also control the volume of system notifications, so it's probably
best to set PCM fairly high then bring down the volume for notifications
and various applications to their best levels.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:37:30 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> 
>> You can, though, control amaroK's volume to a certain extent in amaroK
>> itself. Try to put amaroK's internal control to 100% and drop PCM a bit
>> lower. It might help though I doubt it will help much. (Don't know for
>> sure because I don't use system notifications.)
> 
> You can also control the volume of system notifications, so it's probably
> best to set PCM fairly high then bring down the volume for notifications
> and various applications to their best levels.
> 
> 

WOW.  That must be new.  I never saw that before.  Wooo Oooooo.  That
helped a lot.

Now to go get all the sounds turned back on.  ;-)

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Uwe Thiem]

On 25 October 2006 17:51, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:37:30 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > You can, though, control amaroK's volume to a certain extent in amaroK
> > itself. Try to put amaroK's internal control to 100% and drop PCM a bit
> > lower. It might help though I doubt it will help much. (Don't know for
> > sure because I don't use system notifications.)
>
> You can also control the volume of system notifications, so it's probably
> best to set PCM fairly high then bring down the volume for notifications
> and various applications to their best levels.

How? I am sitting here with KDE 3.5.5 and can't find any such control.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Jesús Guerrero]

El Miércoles, 25 de Octubre de 2006 19:43, Uwe Thiem escribió:
> On 25 October 2006 17:51, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:37:30 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > You can, though, control amaroK's volume to a certain extent in amaroK
> > > itself. Try to put amaroK's internal control to 100% and drop PCM a bit
> > > lower. It might help though I doubt it will help much. (Don't know for
> > > sure because I don't use system notifications.)
> >
> > You can also control the volume of system notifications, so it's probably
> > best to set PCM fairly high then bring down the volume for notifications
> > and various applications to their best levels.
>
> How? I am sitting here with KDE 3.5.5 and can't find any such control.
>
> Uwe
>
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Go to kcontrol -> sounds & multimedia -> system notifications

Then, press the prefferences button at the right bottom corner, there you can 
set the volume, but only if you are using the kde sound system (arts), if you 
use an external player, I supose you can still pass the volume parameter to 
it in the same line, not tested though.

Jesús.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Uwe Thiem]

On 25 October 2006 20:01, Jesús Guerrero wrote:

> Go to kcontrol -> sounds & multimedia -> system notifications
>
> Then, press the prefferences button at the right bottom corner, there you
> can set the volume, but only if you are using the kde sound system (arts),
> if you use an external player, I supose you can still pass the volume
> parameter to it in the same line, not tested though.

Thanks. I didn't notice the volume control because it was set to "No audio 
output". :-(

Uwe

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RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Conneries wearegeeks]

> By default amarok uses a built-in copy of SQlite, so you don't really need MySQL unless
> you use it for something else. Postgres is not supported. Rip your CDs with k3b.
> 
> HTH
> -Robin.
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Postgres is supported, see http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Postgresql_HowTo and the use flag postgres is present.

My 2 cts


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dale]

Conneries wearegeeks wrote:
>> By default amarok uses a built-in copy of SQlite, so you don't really need MySQL unless
>> you use it for something else. Postgres is not supported. Rip your CDs with k3b.
>>
>> HTH
>> -Robin.
>> --
> 
> Postgres is supported, see http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Postgresql_HowTo and the use flag postgres is present.
> 
> My 2 cts
> 
> 
> Benjamin
> 
> 
> 

You may be correct.  It says support is compiled in.

> root@smoker / # emerge -pv amarok
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/amarok-1.4.3-r1  USE="arts kde opengl postgres -aac -debug -ifp -ipod -mysql -njb -noamazon -real -visualization -xinerama (-xmms)" LINGUAS="-az -bg -br -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -km -ko -lt -ms -nb -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -sl -sr -sr@Latn -sv -ta -tg -th -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
> 
> Total size of downloads: 0 kB
> root@smoker / #


I don't know how it works but it says it is there.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 15:31 schrieb ext Dale:
> Conneries wearegeeks wrote:
> >> By default amarok uses a built-in copy of SQlite, so you don't really
> >> need MySQL unless you use it for something else. Postgres is not
> >> supported. Rip your CDs with k3b.
> > Postgres is supported, see http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Postgresql_HowTo
> > and the use flag postgres is present.
> >
>
> You may be correct.  It says support is compiled in.
>
> I don't know how it works but it says it is there.

It does. And if you have such things like home on NFS you need to use a real 
RDBMS anyway. Since you already have postgresql installed, just use it.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dale]

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

> 
> It does. And if you have such things like home on NFS you need to use a real 
> RDBMS anyway. Since you already have postgresql installed, just use it.
> 
> Bye...
> 
> 	Dirk

Thanks for the info.  Just what, and how, does it use postgresql anyway?
 Keep in mind I'm not really sure what postgresql  is.  I know it is a
database program of some kind but that's about it.  The home page didn't
shed much light either.  :\

Still learning.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 10:56 schrieb ext Dale:

> Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > It does. And if you have such things like home on NFS you need to use a
> > real RDBMS anyway. Since you already have postgresql installed, just
> > use it.
>
> Thanks for the info.  Just what, and how, does it use postgresql anyway?

Amarok uses postgres (or better: a postgres managed database) to store meta 
information of your music (like album data, track titles, when played 
last, ...).
 
>  Keep in mind I'm not really sure what postgresql  is.  I know it is a
> database program of some kind but that's about it.  The home page didn't
> shed much light either.  :\

It is a full featured Relational DataBase Management System (RDBMS), similar 
to Oracle. This means that it allows you to create databases to store any 
kind of information and later query those databases to get these 
informations back.

HTH...

	Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Dale]

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 10:56 schrieb ext Dale:
> 
>> Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
>>> It does. And if you have such things like home on NFS you need to use a
>>> real RDBMS anyway. Since you already have postgresql installed, just
>>> use it.
>> Thanks for the info.  Just what, and how, does it use postgresql anyway?
> 
> Amarok uses postgres (or better: a postgres managed database) to store meta 
> information of your music (like album data, track titles, when played 
> last, ...).
>  
>>  Keep in mind I'm not really sure what postgresql  is.  I know it is a
>> database program of some kind but that's about it.  The home page didn't
>> shed much light either.  :\
> 
> It is a full featured Relational DataBase Management System (RDBMS), similar 
> to Oracle. This means that it allows you to create databases to store any 
> kind of information and later query those databases to get these 
> informations back.
> 
> HTH...
> 
> 	Dirk


Why couldn't they put something like that on the home page?  LOL  That
make a lot more sense.  I have heard of Oracle, never seen it though.

Thanks for the info.  Learned a bit more today.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Martins Steinbergs]

On Wednesday 25 October 2006 16:31, Dale wrote:
> postgres

postgres just works, i wont say is there any big difference compared with 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Amorok and getting started.

[Robin Atwood]

On Thursday 26 October 2006 11:42, Martins Steinbergs wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 16:31, Dale wrote:
> > postgres
> 
> postgres just works, i wont say is there any big difference compared with 
> mysql. 

My mistake, postgres isn't supported on *my* system because I have the flag
turned off. :) I just checked in amarok's "engine room" and couldn't see the option.

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