From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdSGP-0002o7-Iw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:56:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAJCtM50029943; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:55:22 GMT Received: from flower.jolet.net (cpe-24-27-31-221.austin.res.rr.com [24.27.31.221]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAJCpesE007933 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:51:41 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flower.jolet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DBC18037 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:51:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from flower.jolet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flower.jolet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13275-02 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:51:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.57] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by flower.jolet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5962418031 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:51:38 -0600 (CST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <437EC8BB.2040507@mid.email-server.info> References: <20051117203328.73680.qmail@web25601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <437CED2F.7050502@buanzo.com.ar> <20051117231122.GA30003@princeton.edu> <20051119054556.GD18358@waltdnes.org> <437EBED9.5060504@cs.ubishops.ca> <437EC8BB.2040507@mid.email-server.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4529AEC8-F16F-4D44-8DDA-AE9347619E27@jolet.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Jolet Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:51:36 -0600 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jolet.net X-Archives-Salt: 5f8a87ba-0e1b-4dbf-b71d-d622c425e570 X-Archives-Hash: db0d02fc91b7486ef6ad622f1a67f28a On Nov 19, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Patrick McLean schrieb: > >> Running a system withoug pam is a rather strange thing to do on a >> modern >> Linux system, and I can think of very few reasons to do it. > > What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one > (human) user on the system and the system acts as a "consumer" > (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's > the gain - in *THAT* scenario? > I'm not sure about you, but I can think of MANY times over my career when I set up a box "to do just one thing" or "for just one person" and down the road all of a sudden, I needed another thing or another person. Retrofitting pam onto a running, configured system is not something I'd care to attempt. Having pam on from the beginning, if you don't fiddle with the defaults, poses no extra complexity. But then, I'm a belt and suspenders man. > Alexander Skwar > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list