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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:51:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <451889275.xc0UYExuNU@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121215174305.0df6cfa2@kc-sys.chadwicks.me.uk>

Am Samstag, 15. Dezember 2012, 17:43:05 schrieb Kevin Chadwick:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 11:18:25 +0100
> 
> Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > It should be moving in the other direction for stability reasons and
> > > busybox is no full answer.
> > > 
> > > On OpenBSD which has the benefit of userland being part of it. All
> > > the critical single user binaries are in root and built statically
> > > as much as possible, maximising system reliability no matter the
> > > custom requirements or packages.
> > 
> > until a flaw is found in one of the libs used and all those
> > statically linked binaries are in danger.  Well done!
> 
> How unlikely and is why you have test systems. 

wow, so how many vulnerabilities have you found with your test systems? Just a 
question. And how do they help mitigate the problem? Really? Having lots of 
test systems help you in which way if there is a root exploit in some lib that 
was wisely statically linked into half of your installed apps? Please explain. 
Without bullshit this time. Thank you very much.

At least the 'no security hole in the default install' bullshit is gone. Easy 
to have a 'secure' default installation if it only contains ed, tar, cp, cat 
and a shell. 

-- 
#163933


  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-16 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 252+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-14 12:19 [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet? Dale
2012-12-14 13:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-14 13:41   ` Dale
2012-12-14 14:04     ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 14:25       ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:39         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:20           ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 17:34             ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 19:02               ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 16:23   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-14 16:32     ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:33     ` Michael Mol
2012-12-14 17:06       ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:52     ` Dale
2012-12-14 17:44       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 20:49         ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:01 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 15:48   ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:07     ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:29       ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:53         ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 17:14           ` Dale
2012-12-14 21:34           ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-15 10:18             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-15 17:43               ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-16 12:51                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2012-12-16 21:19               ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-16 21:30                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 22:14                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 22:25                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15  8:16           ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 15:10             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-16 18:49               ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-16 20:32                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 20:51                   ` Dale
2012-12-17  0:26                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-17  5:44                     ` Dale
2012-12-17  5:57                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17  6:09                         ` Dale
2012-12-17  6:24                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17  6:44                             ` Dale
2012-12-17 11:33                           ` Kevin Chadwick
     [not found]                     ` <CAA2qdGWkfmiQVAKb76wq57scQ-T5p2U7HE4VdN8BnTX0oZHS1g@mail.gmail.com>
2012-12-17  5:54                       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-17  7:38                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17  7:33                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17  7:29                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17  8:02               ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-17  8:46                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 11:44                   ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-18 12:55                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 13:34                     ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-18 22:02                       ` Marc Joliet
2012-12-19 18:48                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:42                           ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-18 14:08                   ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 14:33                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 22:55                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 23:07                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19  3:05                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-19  9:30                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19  9:38                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 10:14                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19  9:26                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 15:03                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 10:22                       ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 16:20                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-23 17:03                           ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:20                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-12-23 17:44                               ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:53                                 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 18:06                                   ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 20:39                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24  1:27                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-24  8:06                                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 10:58                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 15:14                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:52                                           ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:09                                             ` William Kenworthy
2012-12-25 20:39                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:05                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:35                                               ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:46                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-25 11:33                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 15:10                                       ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:20                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:43                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-27 19:59                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 20:07                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:14                                   ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24  6:55                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 12:58                               ` Dale
2012-12-24 13:21                                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 13:58                                   ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:06                                     ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 15:27                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 15:56                                         ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 16:00                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 16:11                                         ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:14                                           ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:34                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 17:02                                               ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:43                                       ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:29                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:00                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 12:10                                         ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 12:46                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:22                                             ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 16:40                                               ` Dale
2012-12-25 17:17                                                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 17:53                                                   ` Dale
2012-12-25 18:54                                                     ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 22:49                                                       ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:54                                                   ` Paul Colquhoun
2012-12-25 23:12                                                     ` Dale
2012-12-26 11:55                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:19                                                       ` pk
2012-12-24 16:25                                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 16:41                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:05                                         ` Dale
2012-12-24 17:15                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 18:58                                             ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-25  1:54                                               ` Dale
2012-12-26 15:56                                                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 18:48                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 20:00                                   ` Dale
2012-12-24 20:15                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 21:23                                     ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-24 22:36                                       ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:17                                         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  0:34                                         ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25  2:00                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  2:33                                           ` Dale
2012-12-25 21:15                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:42                                               ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:07                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 23:04                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  0:29                                         ` »Q«
2012-12-25  0:54                                           ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25  1:30                                             ` Dale
2012-12-25  2:13                                             ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:51                                               ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-25 23:26                                                 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 11:40                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:24                                                   ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-26 17:03                                                     ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 17:22                                                       ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-26 20:34                                                         ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:00                                                           ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25  2:03                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  2:38                                             ` Dale
2012-12-25 12:58                                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:01                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-26 16:01                                               ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-26 20:42                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-27  3:23                                                   ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 16:13                                                     ` Dale
2012-12-27 16:24                                                       ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 17:46                                                       ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:15                                                         ` Dale
2012-12-27 18:31                                                           ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:41                                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 19:02                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 22:29                                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-29  0:43                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 16:28                                                     ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 18:22                                                       ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:40                                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:16                                                           ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 20:59                                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 22:37                                                               ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28  4:20                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-28 14:10                                                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 14:21                                                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 21:31                                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 21:19                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:00                                         ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 22:13                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:20                                             ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:04                                               ` Dale
2012-12-25 23:10                                                 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:56                                                   ` Dale
2012-12-24 21:43                                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 22:23                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 23:31                                         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 23:58                                           ` Dale
2012-12-25  0:44                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 22:52                                       ` Dale
2012-12-24 22:11                                     ` Daniel Wagener
2012-12-25  3:56                                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25  7:38                                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? -> what was wron with SysVInit? G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25  8:01                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-25 11:14                                         ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 13:14                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 13:35                                           ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 18:01                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27  0:45                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-27  1:14                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27  1:26                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:00                                                 ` pk
2012-12-27 23:24                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:15                                                     ` pk
2012-12-28 18:55                                                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-28 19:01                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 22:40                                                         ` pk
2012-12-29  1:05                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28  1:06                                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-28  1:24                                                 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:56                                         ` Joshua Murphy
2012-12-25 18:14                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 22:22                                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 22:19                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 23:01                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 23:51                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27  0:57                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:29                                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:38                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:53                                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 19:14                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 20:17                                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-28 20:36                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-29  3:48                                                           ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 23:23                                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-29  1:06                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27  0:27                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 13:02                                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:18                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 15:01                                       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 23:31                                         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26  0:19                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-26  2:16                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26  3:24                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 17:13                                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 18:47                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 23:07                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-04 23:22                                       ` Mike Edenfield
2013-01-05  2:41                                         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:41                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 18:42               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:53                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 22:45                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20  3:45                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-20 16:47                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-20 20:59                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-23 10:26                     ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-20 21:01                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 21:46                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-21  0:09                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21  0:45                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21  8:28                         ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-15 10:16           ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2012-12-14 16:17     ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:31       ` Dale

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