Fw: [gentoo-user] Whole lotta minimal

Fw: [gentoo-user] Whole lotta minimal

[Jan-Hendrik Zab]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:54:57 -0700
Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can someone explain the great minimal breakout happening in portage or
> point me toward a link?  Is USE="minimal" in make.conf the kind of
> thing you should do if you don't have a specific reason not to, or the
> kind of thing you shouldn't do unless you have a specific reason to.
> 
> - Grant
The second one, but I can't come up with any possible reason for doing
so. The actual problem is that the flag has no 'real' global meaning,
which means that it might turn off some 'unnecessary' features in one
application and turn off one of the most useful in another.

So don't gamble with it. :)

	Jan-Hendrik Zab

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Re: Fw: [gentoo-user] Whole lotta minimal

[Grant]

> > Can someone explain the great minimal breakout happening in portage or
> > point me toward a link?  Is USE="minimal" in make.conf the kind of
> > thing you should do if you don't have a specific reason not to, or the
> > kind of thing you shouldn't do unless you have a specific reason to.
> >
> > - Grant
> The second one, but I can't come up with any possible reason for doing
> so. The actual problem is that the flag has no 'real' global meaning,
> which means that it might turn off some 'unnecessary' features in one
> application and turn off one of the most useful in another.
>
> So don't gamble with it. :)

Ok, good to know.  Can anyone report any packages they prefer to run
with USE="minimal" ?

- Grant
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Re: Fw: [gentoo-user] Whole lotta minimal

[Ryan Tandy]

Grant wrote:
>> > Can someone explain the great minimal breakout happening in portage or
>> > point me toward a link?  Is USE="minimal" in make.conf the kind of
>> > thing you should do if you don't have a specific reason not to, or the
>> > kind of thing you shouldn't do unless you have a specific reason to.
>> >
>> > - Grant
>> The second one, but I can't come up with any possible reason for doing
>> so. The actual problem is that the flag has no 'real' global meaning,
>> which means that it might turn off some 'unnecessary' features in one
>> application and turn off one of the most useful in another.
>>
>> So don't gamble with it. :)
> 
> Ok, good to know.  Can anyone report any packages they prefer to run
> with USE="minimal" ?
> 
> - Grant

app-editors/vim: I already know how to use vim, so I don't need 
vimtutor, and I can live without help files installed locally
net-misc/dhcp: I get my DHCP server from a different package, so no 
point building dhcpd
sys-libs/ncurses: don't want a zillion obscure terminal types installed 
in terminfo that I've never heard of

I wouldn't put minimal in make.conf - it's too easy to trip over.
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Re: Fw: [gentoo-user] Whole lotta minimal

[Harm Geerts]

On Wednesday 20 September 2006 23:58, Grant wrote:
> > > Can someone explain the great minimal breakout happening in portage or
> > > point me toward a link?  Is USE="minimal" in make.conf the kind of
> > > thing you should do if you don't have a specific reason not to, or the
> > > kind of thing you shouldn't do unless you have a specific reason to.
> > >
> > > - Grant
> >
> > The second one, but I can't come up with any possible reason for doing
> > so. The actual problem is that the flag has no 'real' global meaning,
> > which means that it might turn off some 'unnecessary' features in one
> > application and turn off one of the most useful in another.
> >
> > So don't gamble with it. :)
>
> Ok, good to know.  Can anyone report any packages they prefer to run
> with USE="minimal" ?

xorg-server on a headless system.
It allows you to install X dependent packages and run them remotely (over ssh) 
without having to install the complete X server. (you can also disable 
the "xorg" flag since you won't need any input/output drivers)

mysql on a client system.
This only installs the libraries that are needed for clients.
For instance if you need your apache/php webserver to talk to mysql but have 
no need for a local mysqlserver.
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