From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QZpnm-0000jj-3T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:42:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F1FB1C07E; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA49A1C07E for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so1979229wwf.10 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:40:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=PK2BYFePxAcHpE4dOc36G9v+fgIkkZUsoP+ThKBPXcI=; b=uS6S7FEe7M3og1EOlbitNWy8JsaMjN53/gN/0yZ8JnPrqu+Sec6uVWWEPyypTmwVDy URuWriwq+1g0rNfwTWxkv/ONVSDJ9mq/B/LXL8LGRYKEH06y3sDGiZ53vRKQvX5ZZRlh HRygTjUYcY5HzsNLhUToR664pMKJqxXKCx/iA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; b=v65l+FKjd+45Gxu0NmssiMe/x+CKKMiNIK/bGLvbcAWO5tznn4H1/Aj0AwbzVcclsf hKOm+QVUKlFXOxSIQQOPVD1Q6kUV9Px4Suh/Rq2TYTSvXk5ihxteqmX8VJrAfO0gsjc1 lthxGjSR5GxzhE6VVeZUhGJgKvtsv9ncTA1dQ= Received: by 10.216.238.4 with SMTP id z4mr3931502weq.39.1308858003634; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-183-215.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.183.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z22sm1033851weq.26.2011.06.23.12.40.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] portage getting mixed up with USE? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:38:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4509993.1vgHhyACcR@nazgul> User-Agent: KMail/4.6.0 (Linux/2.6.39-ck; KDE/4.6.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <4E02E469.1000708@darkmetatron.de> References: <2869451.8C6Z2vDv6d@nazgul> <20110622235837.079e09c3@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4E02E469.1000708@darkmetatron.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: a311f1fc4b95ccdd5c844cd8268e3c40 On Thursday 23 June 2011 08:59:53 Sebastian Be=C3=9Fler did opine thusl= y: > Am 23.06.2011 00:58, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:16:30 +0200, Sebastian Be=C3=9Fler wrote: > >> This new behavior is bad, but not as bad as Windows. This is > >> Gentoo after all and not Ubuntu ;-P :-) > >=20 > > In what way is it bad? >=20 > It is "bad" because >=20 > a) it is new, and new stuff is always evil :-P > b) it breaks the way portage displays his informations. Without > autounmask the display of emerge shows what he is going to do. With > autounmask it shows what needs to be done. That is probably the most evil of all your reasons. There's an old dev=20= joke about The Law Of Unintended Consequences, and it applies here -=20= portage is now suddenly doing something new and 180 different from=20 what it used to do. The normal response if "WTF?" followed by lots of=20= indignation > c) it is a big change that came wihout any warning > d) it is an automation, and because of that a red flag for any "real > gentoo user" :-D I agree, it's all bad. --=20 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com