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[74.188.241.18]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r15sm1167109otk.23.2020.06.11.22.45.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Jun 2020 22:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question From: Dale To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <659f766d-a697-08fc-baeb-9e4356c0a58e@gmail.com> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFxc7MgBEAC+zrgEdqJJiDe/UDAB+ScmferXWfJTVjbVT2T4DQ7jiLrgP9aNUo1HioNF mrU3JPOCR32gvZyTbY1+niO5+VSo/+pSqQ785h6ZDj1klMkrg6tEzGnf2MNBpBj4houZwxQ+ WDKKTg2M9F+lv8wTIdR/JQn+hSviktLMtrghQlyLhpapsLXWLA6gMFebpQYwxUwemvan8ddX lQvJe9FGyFYvBi0dp1gl10F2O+DVZJxvX8xkX+yImVlhVJiC31gXHRcj+Qlo7gprlU7TIieF Uow6/ZvYKJ26pztVdFCg5w0rMJkF/x8Zd4A6wnuptiAPmWaQ1+YKgYDonbDUgwqFSx5/lN5z DGZ4LlioxeUTTPVvZsqBIeDz6jNFA583OYbo1/S26dqrvTFf2DKlsvoDpVfAhNlwJPjoixs0 X3FNqPv+M10n4kq5Iz7Q9E3O4s/nfFIYGocEslVka7zZPkXSaHbsn+KJlY8XV6qxtCEdh0/V XX1+1aU2J74M0JikWhpwxTZ1dP5aOyWSPPEgFFIRW6xwwC02SoRH9a7mggfGYp/YjPlONNaT SCL8sgRfvmq3D0XTbLyTjSbExxkfKDmbePQagawDE3TlI/oivHf1JaAcbwMb3LZuU4TGcOIl 5D+x7q0MUIeCop0ZFOwAnqW3AVVNvsBkv2KN+IHJryWAf0/iMQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgWIQTZ7suruPBaS60bCYXvEM/XWu+ZnAUCXFzs yAIbIwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDvEM/XWu+ZnN+7D/4/1dNG4aCz0+v+ 0dcjV5tY1feYEWCdHKyDzxWBxlCpd/0NPRQeNY4VMjbCl/sq7GkXi/c2SbfWDQ5BQRkkExG1 pSwuXSIehGok/4fpTi3HDAguRvzdCqlKPt7me05FyiC/WnpY5GOlJ3ruGw2qABv/RmV2q5b/ tkq7h1y1f16DTNr3/nsj8HzHcrHdXdL4kaYChSOe/dbQR9Stqak7eMyR+iwvrJMNF/CGl70P 2x5ybsXMDzRVOqNcpa5ZdhEMTVh6+vC1SOmm1BFMF8XCqBEvBbcHWDQmGYTdNCsS/ADm8CBl gvjJgLdIsAzoMu4WHQDFnzXAoArqFWgAf53isOS4AWrv29tF9b8Aa1vb7h5JEa+ArcMsA6Gl X38+GY6WXXaxKI9n3PTCWu9tPGnRh7mABjnwEosDDqmzw8aTAYECb3avDuGY2rmcjgh4H6RE w08d63j1T4d5J9wlm4TGtW/VHgbUFkATEdH3Acl/EjFiyqTiX7p8kU6Reu5enIkogA93xoQh Rmy7ZiST/5LN+ZkaOdyjIw0L+5KalslN9SKt809YxgJ6kPo657LNTFPiFvFA46/SEWcBYrzq Xk0wEW0gBRWf+BqN0qRhU0/EQ+QfRdLLFg2xtUePwlheYLXxfyDLrdCCOLWYpkzbjCZHLS4u 69smbvR9S9KBDNzJybxEWrkCDQRcXOzIARAA5IGRWTqaM44IJgBYghZg2fGj0Am7KWPhE7V7 T/EEe7vVSUEFqHtlHzI4ZK6Q0AZ9uAEjE8IJIQ7KoTjzNqAtabP0vp3s0szgtJlsZ+8vGKlQ my7fvzSrdoQL0Xn7CEwJYFXJ1EMUcYIQeoHG1cUAaXx73k9BFbjwjnUeMrqlV/ZovQlg7duW nESfQ7HZu5NrtYyY3jPMUouxiO9WQPh+IHxZbt1absF2VcvRAymD32RxGvMPbw6ChMRD/p9O 4PH7M5rXaxr78NXQX9E48vrI00f1cYb9NSN1HnSV8cW3jKObVjdBk6jPQwrMvdpgdQhUB9aZ HS/9mC9mmAgiXKyCpzXe7FPB6QznSfn4GIaC/luy1e6SLUkJhRK/niB+gq+Mfxg2zXNuDUTI cMGmpDCp3kgUoorkaltk8RW09io95BkXrGhcDNuSGZfAParBc7RXyYpbIcax8St7tEAd2oFh 4seYOPUlzuhGrPpqR/91wrFc4E1260GKauSr4UhMJv6tygBwyC0mmBMKi+ZXw6ZdZxA5fg7y 35P3TILjznCXXTDgRHq9A3NknKRMcgFacX6eIhANkMFo6oJVjuEgy1dvu1wFfDq7c+i8GAHu L4pYzyXYu6PporlNNU0xSwdVgzM/uuK0lt+UxCimgC+YR3IezgDcbfudb7h9dGIwL+bbPL0A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIBYhBNnuy6u48FpLrRsJhe8Qz9da75mcBQJcXOzIAhsMAAoJEO8Qz9da 75mcXZ4P/1YXgWDZek7mhzrf6uaQzMxa92P89HeWz4PlgB/32symeEFAV04WazzBZffI8AYY rGA1Xmu/2VaB9+FOODyKhUWBc2UL0NRWBk6POwboyTdKlclmpixaN9zLcBt0YLejoRfN1B/5 aQf9/lUDZMnAiCyz0FgeqEMUshldmwWC35RqnjrCbbuk2vIqSH6BLDIXU6jQrLHE1DF0ai41 wLtQFAFXPhn45n0ZwYhVs4Z32z4sjXrIvgBgCaXa4HM+L1Klne0KiNM8ReFTTpTE0SgyDOSZ O3MOa2n77i6JbVtsbiFYnNeP3J9S/l3jevGpZEtNQOKrIm1MW8jGuHWtsDeMkT/mCcSodlkt PxIo+mMK9GpGvG2hW80LiohqNfUbNwAmr3blOYY4URPXPRnEnPs4pmTmL5owjw2dkg145i9I D42Tq+XZ6YtWt3SGzGbAYow6XwTwZ5NFAzV9UQuCGrDw4KWan6O6Z+VIYWsn0UMZlu1Obxna aocofkaUCbISK26kImuD1aA8juSHC18Qv1xUage6/UakbSxyDtACqt6hOVFKX3IA59ApdNRT +2x3iCmlvF9MJsGgFq6IpqL+Fk7iWV8Kjbz0wQOId6N9+JdQh3LrLaS7a1PowUm1z9DK5/O0 Yg+gpDnEOOFI7WM5u7a7FSM2Z/LXGVwel/0eWvLk9tN6 Message-ID: <44d78c08-7d0c-5dd7-f9e3-c92d46f8e4e2@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 00:45:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <659f766d-a697-08fc-baeb-9e4356c0a58e@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0A3C8FF11CDD25C89787AB58" X-Archives-Salt: 90bcf7bf-ff0a-4175-a4ca-37517a3896ee X-Archives-Hash: fb636ab0a6c5423b33b87c272a08f699 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0A3C8FF11CDD25C89787AB58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I found a deal.  It's open box but it's a good price.  I've googled to > try to find out if it is PMR or SMR but I can't find anything that says > one way or another.  I did find where it says it has a sustained > throughput of 249MB/Sec which makes me think it is PMR, plus it is a > NAS/SAS drive.  Does anyone know for sure if it is a PMR drive?  It's a > good price at $150 but I'd like to avoid a SMR drive if at all possible.  > > Also, I looked at the connector and it looks like a regular SATA > connector for the data and power.  However, it does say it is a SAS > drive.  I thought SAS had a different connector but maybe I'm wrong > about that.  These SAS drives will connect to a regular SATA connector > right?  I'm thinking it will but don't need a $150 doorstop.  :/  > > Thanks to anyone who can share some info.  Let's hope that drive isn't > gone before I can find out if it works or not.  > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > I missed out on previous deal.  I have ran up on a few sites that list PMR and SMR drives.  One site is a look up just to find out if it is SMR or PMR.  I'm not sure how accurate any of these are but it is likely better than nothing.  I did want to share these links just in case they may be helpful to someone else. https://issmrdrive.com/ https://www.ixsystems.com/community/resources/list-of-known-smr-drives.141/ This next one is Chinese I think.  Thing is, the part that is needed is English, for us English only speakers.  https://www.jianshu.com/p/51bc72e29138 I hope some of you will bookmark these and find them useful later on.  I sure do get a lot of help from the folks here.  If anyone else has links like these, it would be nice to share.  Now to go figure out how to tell if a used drive is "shucked" or not.  I don't want to buy one and run into that 3.3V pin problem.  Youtube is waiting. Dale :-)  :-)  --------------0A3C8FF11CDD25C89787AB58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dale wrote:
Howdy,

I found a deal.  It's open box but it's a good price.  I've googled to
try to find out if it is PMR or SMR but I can't find anything that says
one way or another.  I did find where it says it has a sustained
throughput of 249MB/Sec which makes me think it is PMR, plus it is a
NAS/SAS drive.  Does anyone know for sure if it is a PMR drive?  It's a
good price at $150 but I'd like to avoid a SMR drive if at all possible. 

Also, I looked at the connector and it looks like a regular SATA
connector for the data and power.  However, it does say it is a SAS
drive.  I thought SAS had a different connector but maybe I'm wrong
about that.  These SAS drives will connect to a regular SATA connector
right?  I'm thinking it will but don't need a $150 doorstop.  :/ 

Thanks to anyone who can share some info.  Let's hope that drive isn't
gone before I can find out if it works or not. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


I missed out on previous deal.  I have ran up on a few sites that list PMR and SMR drives.  One site is a look up just to find out if it is SMR or PMR.  I'm not sure how accurate any of these are but it is likely better than nothing.  I did want to share these links just in case they may be helpful to someone else.

https://issmrdrive.com/

https://www.ixsystems.com/community/resources/list-of-known-smr-drives.141/

This next one is Chinese I think.  Thing is, the part that is needed is English, for us English only speakers. 

https://www.jianshu.com/p/51bc72e29138

I hope some of you will bookmark these and find them useful later on.  I sure do get a lot of help from the folks here.  If anyone else has links like these, it would be nice to share.  Now to go figure out how to tell if a used drive is "shucked" or not.  I don't want to buy one and run into that 3.3V pin problem.  Youtube is waiting.

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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