From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0A7315800F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 14:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B358E0871; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 14:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [IPv6:2600:3c00:e000:1e9::8849]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12C2CE0864 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 14:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Contact-TNet-Consulting-Abuse-for-assistance by tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-3) with ESMTPSA id 30KEk5Ce005410 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 08:46:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <5641245.DvuYhMxLoT@wstn> <12150915.O9o76ZdvQC@wstn> <2683368.mvXUDI8C0e@wstn> <3801a02c-2b8a-eb9f-918f-b4f352508db5@users.sourceforge.net> <20230118150714.362d7481@digimed.co.uk> <3bddb17c-6154-6551-a3e6-68b9f65180b2@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <7569d51f-6f61-ab52-e559-8bc3343d1db5@gmail.com> From: Grant Taylor Organization: TNet Consulting Message-ID: <44cd4db3-d2b2-7d6d-5dce-2e9b453c9cb0@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 07:44:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7569d51f-6f61-ab52-e559-8bc3343d1db5@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b64f4fef-ab3c-4a67-b879-71105787e592 X-Archives-Hash: 15caf293c23c1e32c6648858b1bdd393 On 1/20/23 2:07 AM, Dale wrote: > It could be the OP is running into the same problem I have in the > past, whatever that problems is. My experience is that this is a combination of advanced email protection on the sender /and/ the receiver. E.g. the sending domain's email configuration specifies very specific locations combined with a receiving domain's email configuration honoring what the sending domain publishes. Thus when a message passes through a 3rd party, saying a mailing list, the recipient refuses to accept the message because it's not from where the sender says the message is authorized to come from. There's a lot of minutia to this and lots of ways that this can fail. Yes, there are some things that the Gentoo Users mailing list can change, but do to various reasons, this isn't done all the time. > I might add, I don't recall seeing anything that leads me to believe > I actually missed any messages. I tent to follow most threads and > I don't recall ever seeing a quoted message that I don't have the > original of. My experience is similar. > It's odd in my opinion. Maybe someone will figure it out. I think it's been figured out. This is where "this isn't done all the time" comes into play. -- Grant. . . . unix || die