[gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[reader]

For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
anything other than samba the works reliably.

The reason I ask is that I've run into a problem suddenly where none
of my win XP boxes can access shares on a linux box.  Trying to debug
this I see such a confusing mess in the logs as to not even get a clue
where the problem may be, or if it is with some other authentication
such as pam or what.

I've posted elsewhere with some details of the problem I see but
asking in this post and thread if there are other options that may not
be so rife with worthless non-informative log output and therefor be
easier to fix if it breaks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[Michael Crute]

On 8/11/06, reader@newsguy.com <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
> anything other than samba the works reliably.

HTTP
FTP
DAV
Samba
SSH/SCP
(probably others too)

Take your pick. Though as far as I know the only one Windows can
actually mount (as a drive) is Samba.

-Mike


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[gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[reader]

"Michael Crute" <mcrute@gmail.com> writes:

> On 8/11/06, reader@newsguy.com <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
>> anything other than samba the works reliably.
>
> HTTP
> FTP
> DAV
> Samba
> SSH/SCP
> (probably others too)
>
> Take your pick. Though as far as I know the only one Windows can
> actually mount (as a drive) is Samba.

Thanks, yes, of course their are those.  I should have defined what I
meant a bit better.
Is there a tool out there that allows a windows user to access linux
directories with an explorer like interface, or in some fairly
seemless way so that linux machines show up in `network places' or
something similar.

Something like an nfs for windows I guess.  I've seen that very thing
but it was an ancient non-developed app.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[gentuxx]

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reader@newsguy.com wrote:
> "Michael Crute" <mcrute@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 8/11/06, reader@newsguy.com <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>> For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
>>> anything other than samba the works reliably.
>> HTTP
>> FTP
>> DAV
>> Samba
>> SSH/SCP
>> (probably others too)
>>
>> Take your pick. Though as far as I know the only one Windows can
>> actually mount (as a drive) is Samba.
>
> Thanks, yes, of course their are those.  I should have defined what I
> meant a bit better.
> Is there a tool out there that allows a windows user to access linux
> directories with an explorer like interface, or in some fairly
> seemless way so that linux machines show up in `network places' or
> something similar.
>
> Something like an nfs for windows I guess.  I've seen that very thing
> but it was an ancient non-developed app.
>
I haven't messed with it at all, but supposedly the Microsoft Services
for UNIX (SFU) is supposed to have NFS capabilities.

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[gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[reader]

gentuxx <gentuxx@gmail.com> writes:

>> Something like an nfs for windows I guess.  I've seen that very thing
>> but it was an ancient non-developed app.
>>
> I haven't messed with it at all, but supposedly the Microsoft Services
> for UNIX (SFU) is supposed to have NFS capabilities.

I installed that once mnths, maybe years ago but all I remember is
that is was an enormous pita to do anything with.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[kashani]

reader@newsguy.com wrote:
> gentuxx <gentuxx@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>>> Something like an nfs for windows I guess.  I've seen that very thing
>>> but it was an ancient non-developed app.
>>>
>> I haven't messed with it at all, but supposedly the Microsoft Services
>> for UNIX (SFU) is supposed to have NFS capabilities.
> 
> I installed that once mnths, maybe years ago but all I remember is
> that is was an enormous pita to do anything with.
> 

Yeah NFS on Windows was awful. Samba/CIFS is the way to go unless you 
really have a week or two to waste.

kashani

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[Quag7]

On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 18:29 -0500, reader@newsguy.com wrote:
> "Michael Crute" <mcrute@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On 8/11/06, reader@newsguy.com <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
> >> anything other than samba the works reliably.
> >
> > HTTP
> > FTP
> > DAV
> > Samba
> > SSH/SCP
> > (probably others too)
> >
> > Take your pick. Though as far as I know the only one Windows can
> > actually mount (as a drive) is Samba.
> 
> Thanks, yes, of course their are those.  I should have defined what I
> meant a bit better.
> Is there a tool out there that allows a windows user to access linux
> directories with an explorer like interface, or in some fairly
> seemless way so that linux machines show up in `network places' or
> something similar.
> 
> Something like an nfs for windows I guess.  I've seen that very thing
> but it was an ancient non-developed app.


There's something called CIFS in the kernel, but I haven't used it yet.
It is apparently based on SMB and extends it.

It may be worth a try.

Has anyone else used this?

 -C

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos]

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As far as I know, Windows XP and newer versions of Windows prefer CIFS over
SMB. You can't even access a Win2k3 share with samba without CIFS or
disabling a server signing in the Win2k3 server.

On 8/11/06, Quag7 <coldfront@frostwarning.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 18:29 -0500, reader@newsguy.com wrote:
> > "Michael Crute" <mcrute@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > On 8/11/06, reader@newsguy.com <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > >> For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
> > >> anything other than samba the works reliably.
> > >
> > > HTTP
> > > FTP
> > > DAV
> > > Samba
> > > SSH/SCP
> > > (probably others too)
> > >
> > > Take your pick. Though as far as I know the only one Windows can
> > > actually mount (as a drive) is Samba.
> >
> > Thanks, yes, of course their are those.  I should have defined what I
> > meant a bit better.
> > Is there a tool out there that allows a windows user to access linux
> > directories with an explorer like interface, or in some fairly
> > seemless way so that linux machines show up in `network places' or
> > something similar.
> >
> > Something like an nfs for windows I guess.  I've seen that very thing
> > but it was an ancient non-developed app.
>
>
> There's something called CIFS in the kernel, but I haven't used it yet.
> It is apparently based on SMB and extends it.
>
> It may be worth a try.
>
> Has anyone else used this?
>
> -C
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

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[John J. Foster]

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Please turn off your html.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Samstag, 12. August 2006 01:03 schrieb ext Michael Crute:

> HTTP
> FTP
> DAV
> Samba
> SSH/SCP
> (probably others too)

NFS
OpenAFS

The latter may be overkill. However, in mixed environments, in the end, it 
may also be the best choice.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[Matthew Cline]

On 8/11/06, Michael Crute <mcrute@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/11/06, reader@newsguy.com <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
> > anything other than samba the works reliably.
>
> HTTP
> FTP
> DAV
> Samba
> SSH/SCP
> (probably others too)
>
> Take your pick. Though as far as I know the only one Windows can
> actually mount (as a drive) is Samba.
>

I think that newer versions of Windows can access WebDAV shares using
Web Folders.

HTH,

Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[Yann Garnier]

On your  Windows 2K/XP CD you got an NFS client in the tools  
directory thus enabling NFS too.
Best Regards,

Yann Garnier
Le 14 août 06 à 15:53, Matthew Cline a écrit :

> On 8/11/06, Michael Crute <mcrute@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/11/06, reader@newsguy.com <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> > For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is  
>> there
>> > anything other than samba the works reliably.
>>
>> HTTP
>> FTP
>> DAV
>> Samba
>> SSH/SCP
>> (probably others too)
>>
>> Take your pick. Though as far as I know the only one Windows can
>> actually mount (as a drive) is Samba.
>>
>
> I think that newer versions of Windows can access WebDAV shares using
> Web Folders.
>
> HTH,
>
> Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[Anthony E. Caudel]

reader@newsguy.com wrote:
> For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there
> anything other than samba the works reliably.
> 
> The reason I ask is that I've run into a problem suddenly where none
> of my win XP boxes can access shares on a linux box.  Trying to debug
> this I see such a confusing mess in the logs as to not even get a clue
> where the problem may be, or if it is with some other authentication
> such as pam or what.
> 
> I've posted elsewhere with some details of the problem I see but
> asking in this post and thread if there are other options that may not
> be so rife with worthless non-informative log output and therefor be
> easier to fix if it breaks.
> 
I use winscp.

Tony

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[b.n.]

> I use winscp.

I fully agree. We use winscp in our lab and it is extremly
straightforward to use and with a nice interface. The only potential
problem is slowness.

m.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[Roy Wright]

filezilla on sourceforge can do sftp.  Used it a lot before switching
workstation to gentoo 1.5 years ago.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/


Have fun,
Roy

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba

[Nick Rout]

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:00:11 -0500
Roy Wright wrote:

> filezilla on sourceforge can do sftp.  Used it a lot before switching
> workstation to gentoo 1.5 years ago.
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/
> 
> 
> Have fun,
> Roy


frankly samba is a mature and stable package. It should work. Perhaps
the OP's efforts are better directed at figuring out what is going wrong with samba.

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[gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[reader]

Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz> writes:

> frankly samba is a mature and stable package. It should work. Perhaps
> the OP's efforts are better directed at figuring out what is going wrong with samba.

Yes, that was the conclusion I came to (I'm the OP) as well and have
now gotten it working.  It was a simple matter of redoing the
passwords with smbpasswd after and update.

Didn't seem so simple at first since it had been working with no
worries for mnths then suddenly no workee.

However I would add that samba is a very complex program.  Chances are
good it will just work with little fiddling but if it doesn't it
appears a giant undertaking to understand and debug it.  (For a common
numbskull at any rate)

In my case, fortunately I didn't have to.  Because as you pointed out,
it is stable and mostly just works.  I just happend to think of
redoing the passwds and didn't really get even  as far as going thru
the gentoo howto on samba or even looking thru man pages.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is available besides samba

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:08:48 -0500
reader wrote:

> Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz> writes:
> 
> > frankly samba is a mature and stable package. It should work. Perhaps
> > the OP's efforts are better directed at figuring out what is going wrong with samba.
> 
> Yes, that was the conclusion I came to (I'm the OP) as well and have
> now gotten it working.  It was a simple matter of redoing the
> passwords with smbpasswd after and update.
> 
> Didn't seem so simple at first since it had been working with no
> worries for mnths then suddenly no workee.
> 
> However I would add that samba is a very complex program.  Chances are
> good it will just work with little fiddling but if it doesn't it
> appears a giant undertaking to understand and debug it.  (For a common
> numbskull at any rate)
> 
> In my case, fortunately I didn't have to.  Because as you pointed out,
> it is stable and mostly just works.  I just happend to think of
> redoing the passwds and didn't really get even  as far as going thru
> the gentoo howto on samba or even looking thru man pages.


Reminds me of that nursery rhyme "When she was good she was very very
good, but when she was bad she was rotten"

I too confess to not understanding samba, and I will put the "redo the
smbpasswds" into my mental notebook of things to check. 


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