[gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Peter Ruskin]

Since upgrading to 7.0-r1 from 6.8 I've lost a few characters.  I 
use xmodmap to get accented and other characters but four of those 
characers are now missing:

	leftarrow, rightarrow, uparrow and downarrow.

When typed they just show up as rectangles.  Anyone know how to fix 
this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Richard Fish]

On 7/6/06, Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Since upgrading to 7.0-r1 from 6.8 I've lost a few characters.  I
> use xmodmap to get accented and other characters but four of those
> characers are now missing:
>
>         leftarrow, rightarrow, uparrow and downarrow.
>
> When typed they just show up as rectangles.  Anyone know how to fix
> this?

Do the correct events appear in xev?  If so, then maybe you are just
missing the right font....

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 17:56 +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> Since upgrading to 7.0-r1 from 6.8 I've lost a few characters.  I 
> use xmodmap to get accented and other characters but four of those 
> characers are now missing:
> 
> 	leftarrow, rightarrow, uparrow and downarrow.
> 
> When typed they just show up as rectangles.  Anyone know how to fix 
> this?
> 
FYI: I'm using xorg-x11-7.1 (AMD64) and xev reports

        KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157916474, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 100 (keysym 0xff51, Left), same_screen
        YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False
        
        KeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157916569, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 100 (keysym 0xff51, Left), same_screen
        YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False
        
        KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157923720, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 102 (keysym 0xff53, Right), same_screen
        YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False
        
        KeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157923797, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 102 (keysym 0xff53, Right), same_screen
        YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False
        
        KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157927242, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 98 (keysym 0xff52, Up), same_screen YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False
        
        KeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157927338, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 98 (keysym 0xff52, Up), same_screen YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False
        
        KeyPress event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157928165, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff54, Down), same_screen
        YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False
        
        KeyRelease event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001,
            root 0x50, subw 0x0, time 1157928281, (94,88),
        root:(1150,115),
            state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff54, Down), same_screen
        YES,
            XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
            XFilterEvent returns: False

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Peter Ruskin]

On Thursday 06 July 2006 18:06, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 7/6/06, Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > Since upgrading to 7.0-r1 from 6.8 I've lost a few characters. 
> > I use xmodmap to get accented and other characters but four of
> > those characers are now missing:
> >
> >         leftarrow, rightarrow, uparrow and downarrow.
> >
> > When typed they just show up as rectangles.  Anyone know how to
> > fix this?
>
> Do the correct events appear in xev?  If so, then maybe you are
> just missing the right font....
>
Yes they do.  I map the missing characters to AltGr+y, AltGr+[, 
AltGr+] and Shift+AltGr+[ ... which produces:
	←↑→↓

I thought of fonts too, but I already have most of the fonts in 
portage - more than I had in xorg-6.8 (when it worked).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Richard Fish]

On 7/6/06, Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Yes they do.  I map the missing characters to AltGr+y, AltGr+[,
> AltGr+] and Shift+AltGr+[ ... which produces:
>         ←↑→↓
>
> I thought of fonts too, but I already have most of the fonts in
> portage - more than I had in xorg-6.8 (when it worked).

Ok, what are you xmodmap entries for those.  Maybe I can try to
duplicate this...

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 07 July 2006 04:14, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 7/6/06, Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > Yes they do.  I map the missing characters to AltGr+y, AltGr+[,
> > AltGr+] and Shift+AltGr+[ ... which produces:
> >         ←↑→↓
> >
> > I thought of fonts too, but I already have most of the fonts in
> > portage - more than I had in xorg-6.8 (when it worked).
>
> Ok, what are you xmodmap entries for those.  Maybe I can try to
> duplicate this...
>
Thanks for the offer, Richard.

keycode  29 = y Y leftarrow yen
keycode  34 = bracketleft braceleft uparrow downarrow
keycode  35 = bracketright braceright rightarrow emdash

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Benno Schulenberg]

Peter Ruskin wrote:
> keycode  35 = bracketright braceright rightarrow emdash

Ah, emdash!  Thanks — now I can finally type it directly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 07 July 2006 11:11, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Friday 07 July 2006 04:14, Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 7/6/06, Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > > Yes they do.  I map the missing characters to AltGr+y,
> > > AltGr+[, AltGr+] and Shift+AltGr+[ ... which produces:
> > >         ←↑→↓
> > >
> > > I thought of fonts too, but I already have most of the fonts
> > > in portage - more than I had in xorg-6.8 (when it worked).
> >
> > Ok, what are you xmodmap entries for those.  Maybe I can try to
> > duplicate this...
>
> Thanks for the offer, Richard.
>
> keycode  29 = y Y leftarrow yen
> keycode  34 = bracketleft braceleft uparrow downarrow
> keycode  35 = bracketright braceright rightarrow emdash
>
Now I feel such a fool!  My favourite monospace font Luxi Mono can't 
reproduce these characters.  I can see them clearly with Courier or 
Courier New fonts :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Richard Fish]

On 7/12/06, Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Now I feel such a fool!  My favourite monospace font Luxi Mono can't
> reproduce these characters.  I can see them clearly with Courier or
> Courier New fonts :-)

Ah.  FYI, I spent a few minutes trying to get the same key mappings to
work, but I got stuck at not being able to get one of my keys to
become AltGr!  Sorry I never got the chance to get back to it.  BTW,
am I the only one who gets dizzy from trying to figure out how xkb
actually works?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg loses 4 characters

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 18:07, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 7/12/06, Peter Ruskin <peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > Now I feel such a fool!  My favourite monospace font Luxi Mono
> > can't reproduce these characters.  I can see them clearly with
> > Courier or Courier New fonts :-)
>
> Ah.  FYI, I spent a few minutes trying to get the same key
> mappings to work, but I got stuck at not being able to get one of
> my keys to become AltGr!  Sorry I never got the chance to get
> back to it.  BTW, am I the only one who gets dizzy from trying to
> figure out how xkb actually works?
>
You aren't the only one.  While trying to fix my perceived problem I 
searched through the documentation provided by xorg-docs.  All I 
got was a headache.  I wish there were a user-friendly doc that 
explained all those config options like XkbOptions, XkbLayout, etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XKB docs

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Peter Ruskin wrote:
> You aren't the only one.  While trying to fix my perceived problem I 
> searched through the documentation provided by xorg-docs.  All I 
> got was a headache.  I wish there were a user-friendly doc that 
> explained all those config options like XkbOptions, XkbLayout, etc.

Here's a few ideas:

http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/
http://pascal.tsu.ru/en/xkb/
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/XKB-Config.html

Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-user] XKB docs

[Peter Ruskin]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 20:59, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > You aren't the only one.  While trying to fix my perceived
> > problem I searched through the documentation provided by
> > xorg-docs.  All I got was a headache.  I wish there were a
> > user-friendly doc that explained all those config options like
> > XkbOptions, XkbLayout, etc.
>
> Here's a few ideas:
>
> http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/
> http://pascal.tsu.ru/en/xkb/
> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/XKB-Config.
>html
>
Hey, thanks Donnie.  I particularly like the first one.

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