From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fzevv-0006Xp-KP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:27:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k69JPwM2026054; Sun, 9 Jul 2006 19:25:58 GMT Received: from hetzner.email-server.info (new.email-server.info [213.133.109.44]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k69JKN1P019208 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2006 19:20:23 GMT Received: by hetzner.email-server.info (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9984633878; Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:22:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL=0.064,BAYES_00=-2.599 X-Spam-Contact: Contact Address X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3-gr1 (2006-06-01) on hetzner.email-server.info X-Spam-Relays: Trusted=, Untrusted=[ ip=88.130.85.71 rdns=mue-88-130-85-071.dsl.tropolys.de helo=!192.168.1.244! by=hetzner.email-server.info ident= envfrom= intl=0 id=DD91532775 auth= ] X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: Score=0.0000, Tokens=Tokens: new, 10; hammy, 132; neutral, 87; spammy, 4., Hammy=0.000-+--schrieb, 0.000-+--H*M:mid, 0.000-+--H*r:sk:mue-88-, 0.000-+--H*RU:sk:mue-88-, 0.000-+--*not*, Spammy=0.971-+--propose, 0.897-+--H*r:sk:hetzner, 0.871-1--Pink, 0.851-+--low X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3-gr1 X-Spam-Externals: DCC Brand "_DCCB_", Result _DCCR_ - Pyzor=_PYZOR_, RBL [213.133.109.44] [10 new.email-server.info.] Received: from [192.168.1.244] (mue-88-130-85-071.dsl.tropolys.de [88.130.85.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hetzner.email-server.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD91532775 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:21:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44B156EC.1020009@mid.email-server.info> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:20:12 +0200 From: Alexander Skwar User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060615) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved References: <44AEB475.8000702@maestroprogramador.com> <200607082259.24713@frappe.xs4all.nl> <44B120C2.5050704@mid.email-server.info> <200607092050.29471@frappe.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <200607092050.29471@frappe.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d05e6935-079d-41e1-bd39-c378ab200d3b X-Archives-Hash: bd68bc6c2c45642c881699fe421469f4 Gerhard Hoogterp schrieb: > On Sunday 09 July 2006 17:29, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> > As I wrote in an other mail: Stop interfering with the actual configfile >> > and add the changes to a config.conf.dist file. >> >> Yep, you wrote that, and I answered that *I* would *NOT* like this. >> I like it, that I can use a program right away - at least in a >> "default" way. If you had your way, *NO* program which relied >> on configuration files would be usable after installation, as >> no configuration file could be found. Because of that, I would >> not want to happen what you proposed. > > Sure, and it's such a big deal to copy the dist to a non dist on first emerge > and update the dist version afterwards. Sure, it's no big deal to make the distribution harder to use. You're right. But you might have a hard time convincing e.g. the gentopia people to do what you propose. > My whole point is that etc-update and friends should stay out of my manually > adjusted config files once I've touched them Then you've got no point, since etc-update and friends *do* stay out of your files; etc-update even stays out of the configuration files, if *you* haven't modfied them. > As for software running on pure and unchecked default configs.. That's, > especially for more low level software, Actually, it's not. Not necessarily, at least. > not the smartest thing to rely on. Yes, I also think, that you're quite a stupid person. You know, I dislike being called "not smart". And I actually find this somewhat of an offense. Alexander Skwar -- We don't need no education, we don't need no thought control. -- Pink Floyd -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list