[gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Allan Gottlieb]

Now that I have xorg-7.0-r1 installed, I am planning to upgrade my
logitech cordless mouseman optical to one of the new toys, either the
MX1000 or the G7.  I have read the helpful gentoo-wiki entry.

I am looking for recommendations/experiences.  Would I perceive any
difference between them?  In particular

1.  This is for a laptop (dell 5150) so there will also be the
    synaptics two button touchpad on the keyboard.  I assume either of
    the two new mice would work and would not disable the touchpad (I
    know about "alwayscore").  Correct?

2.  I do not play high speed games, but would consider it a mild plus
    if such games were better supported since my children (low 20s) do
    play these games and very occasionally use my system.

thanks in advance,
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Rick van Hattem]

On Friday 07 July 2006 21:39, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> Now that I have xorg-7.0-r1 installed, I am planning to upgrade my
> logitech cordless mouseman optical to one of the new toys, either the
> MX1000 or the G7.  I have read the helpful gentoo-wiki entry.
>
> I am looking for recommendations/experiences.  Would I perceive any
> difference between them?  In particular
>
> 1.  This is for a laptop (dell 5150) so there will also be the
>     synaptics two button touchpad on the keyboard.  I assume either of
>     the two new mice would work and would not disable the touchpad (I
>     know about "alwayscore").  Correct?
>
> 2.  I do not play high speed games, but would consider it a mild plus
>     if such games were better supported since my children (low 20s) do
>     play these games and very occasionally use my system.
>
> thanks in advance,
> allan
I'd go for the G7, it's got 2 replaceable  batteries which make it a lot 
better imho, I currently have an MX700 but my next upgrade will definately 
not be a MX1000, I'll be a G7 or higher (by the time I'll need to upgrade)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Daniel Waeber]

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Hi

Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> Now that I have xorg-7.0-r1 installed, I am planning to upgrade my
> logitech cordless mouseman optical to one of the new toys, either the
> MX1000 or the G7.  I have read the helpful gentoo-wiki entry.

I'm currently using a G7 on my laptop and it works great, all 8 buttons
and on-the-fly sensitivity just feel good. Moreover having two battaries
is super.
But i never tested the MX1000, so i just can say that G7 rocks :)

> 
> I am looking for recommendations/experiences.  Would I perceive any
> difference between them?  In particular
> 
> 1.  This is for a laptop (dell 5150) so there will also be the
>     synaptics two button touchpad on the keyboard.  I assume either of
>     the two new mice would work and would not disable the touchpad (I
>     know about "alwayscore").  Correct?

At least in my laptop the devices still work like they did before.
I only got one problem right now: xorg does not start, if the mouse is
inside the xorg.conf (using evdev driver) but not attached. but perhaps
this is my fault.

> 2.  I do not play high speed games, but would consider it a mild plus
>     if such games were better supported since my children (low 20s) do
>     play these games and very occasionally use my system.
> 

Your gaming children will love the 2000 dpi and the on-the-fly
sensitivity. Its perfect for gaming.

> thanks in advance,
> allan

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:15:18 +0200 Rick van Hattem <Rick.van.Hattem@fawo.nl> wrote:

> On Friday 07 July 2006 21:39, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> Now that I have xorg-7.0-r1 installed, I am planning to upgrade my
>> logitech cordless mouseman optical to one of the new toys, either the
>> MX1000 or the G7.  I have read the helpful gentoo-wiki entry.
>>
>> I am looking for recommendations/experiences.  Would I perceive any
>> difference between them?  In particular
>>
>> 1.  This is for a laptop (dell 5150) so there will also be the
>>     synaptics two button touchpad on the keyboard.  I assume either of
>>     the two new mice would work and would not disable the touchpad (I
>>     know about "alwayscore").  Correct?
>>
>> 2.  I do not play high speed games, but would consider it a mild plus
>>     if such games were better supported since my children (low 20s) do
>>     play these games and very occasionally use my system.
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>> allan

> I'd go for the G7, it's got 2 replaceable  batteries which make it a lot 
> better imho, I currently have an MX700 but my next upgrade will definately 
> not be a MX1000, I'll be a G7 or higher (by the time I'll need to upgrade)

Thanks.  These batteries are rechargeable, right?  I was hoping not to
have to replace batteries as often as I do with my current mouse.  The
multibutton logitech that I remember seeing a year ago had a cradle
into which the mouse can be placed and recharged.

I will probably go for the G7 as you recommend.

Thanks again,
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:19:01 +0200 Daniel Waeber <_wabu@web.de> wrote:

> Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> Now that I have xorg-7.0-r1 installed, I am planning to upgrade my
>> logitech cordless mouseman optical to one of the new toys, either the
>> MX1000 or the G7.  I have read the helpful gentoo-wiki entry.
>
> I'm currently using a G7 on my laptop and it works great, all 8 buttons
> and on-the-fly sensitivity just feel good. Moreover having two battaries
> is super.
> But i never tested the MX1000, so i just can say that G7 rocks :)

Thanks.  That is two strong votes for the G7.  That is my planned
purchase now.

thanks again.
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Lord Sauron]

On 7/7/06, Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb@nyu.edu> wrote:
> At Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:19:01 +0200 Daniel Waeber <_wabu@web.de> wrote:
>
> > Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> >> Now that I have xorg-7.0-r1 installed, I am planning to upgrade my
> >> logitech cordless mouseman optical to one of the new toys, either the
> >> MX1000 or the G7.  I have read the helpful gentoo-wiki entry.
> >
> > I'm currently using a G7 on my laptop and it works great, all 8 buttons
> > and on-the-fly sensitivity just feel good. Moreover having two battaries
> > is super.
> > But i never tested the MX1000, so i just can say that G7 rocks :)
>
> Thanks.  That is two strong votes for the G7.  That is my planned
> purchase now.

Hold it.  I'm a Logitech mouse fanatic.

The MX1000 is for users.  The G7 is for gamers.

The G7 can go either way, though it is targeted for more hardcore
gamers.  If you want something you *know* will work and can accompany
you for many long hours in front of the spreadsheet, the MX 1000 is
your mouse.  If you demand rediculous accuracy and response times, the
G7 is for you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Richard Fish]

On 7/7/06, Daniel Waeber <_wabu@web.de> wrote:
> At least in my laptop the devices still work like they did before.
> I only got one problem right now: xorg does not start, if the mouse is
> inside the xorg.conf (using evdev driver) but not attached. but perhaps
> this is my fault.

Do you need to use the evdev driver?  If not, just use the mouse
driver and point it at /dev/input/mice.  That is what I do for my
logitech cordless.  The touchpad uses the synaptics driver and an
event interface, while the USB mouse is using the standard mouse
driver and /dev/input/mice.

BTW, how is the mobility for the G7/MX1000?  Do they come with bulky
cradles that one would have to carry around?

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:54:25 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

> BTW, how is the mobility for the G7/MX1000?  Do they come with bulky
> cradles that one would have to carry around?

I believe both have a cradle.  However, I already own a tiny trivial
mouse for trips.  The G7/MX1000 would stay in one place (with my
external monitor and allegedly-hand-and-wrist-friendly keyboard).

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Lord Sauron]

On 7/7/06, Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb@nyu.edu> wrote:
> At Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:54:25 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
>
> > BTW, how is the mobility for the G7/MX1000?  Do they come with bulky
> > cradles that one would have to carry around?
>
> I believe both have a cradle.  However, I already own a tiny trivial
> mouse for trips.  The G7/MX1000 would stay in one place (with my
> external monitor and allegedly-hand-and-wrist-friendly keyboard).

The MX1000 has a gigantic bulky cradle like my MX 700.  The G7 has
interchangable batteries and a base docking station, but that is just
a USB extension that houses a much more portable USB reciever like a
smaller wireless optical mouse.

If you plan on moving around a lot, get the G7.  If you're staying
put, the MX 1000 will do fine.  Both are dang good mice, so you really
can't make a *wrong* choice, just one is better than the other for
certain needs.  That's all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Daniel Waeber]

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Hullo

Richard Fish wrote:
> On 7/7/06, Daniel Waeber <_wabu@web.de> wrote:
>> At least in my laptop the devices still work like they did before.
>> I only got one problem right now: xorg does not start, if the mouse is
>> inside the xorg.conf (using evdev driver) but not attached. but perhaps
>> this is my fault.
> 
> Do you need to use the evdev driver?  If not, just use the mouse
> driver and point it at /dev/input/mice.  That is what I do for my
> logitech cordless.  The touchpad uses the synaptics driver and an
> event interface, while the USB mouse is using the standard mouse
> driver and /dev/input/mice.

The left and right movement of the mouse wheel is only supported by the
evdev driver. As this feature is really handy I'll have to use evdev.
In conjunction with imwheel it is usable for all applications.
But as the reciver is just about 10mm x 30mm x 5mm big, you'll easily
can carry it with you. Somewhere I read that you can configure udev so
it chances the xorg.conf. Perhaps I'll try that some day and will post
it if I have success.

> BTW, how is the mobility for the G7/MX1000?  Do they come with bulky
> cradles that one would have to carry around?

It has a bulky charging station, but this is only needed to changce the
batteries. The receiver itself is very small and can be carried around
easily.

wabu
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT logitech mouse recommendation (MX1000 vs G7)

[Richard Fish]

On 7/8/06, Daniel Waeber <_wabu@web.de> wrote:
> The left and right movement of the mouse wheel is only supported by the
> evdev driver. As this feature is really handy I'll have to use evdev.

Ok, well you'll probably be very happy when xorg 7.2 comes out with
input hotplug support. :-)

-Richard
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