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From: Daniel Iliev <danny@ilievnet.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] world favorites: pros and cons
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:01:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44AC1A7E.5040401@ilievnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <342e1090607051217w6fabbefegb8883650b5166e38@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> 
> I'll just quote the "emerge" man page, that is pretty clear there:
> 
--snip
> 
> Note the words "DIRECT dependencies". So, your command "emerge
> --update --deep world" is in fact just "emerge world", because every
> direct/indirect dependency is part of your world file. Your "way" made
> "--update" useless, because a simple "emerge <package>" would update
> the package.
> 

--snip

> So, you "way" also made "--deep" useless.
> This flags are there because they mantain portage in a way that you
> can't easily break consistency by accident, and with that I mean
> libraries and indirect dependencies.

Yes, and I'll ask again what's the point of doing:

"emerge world" or "emerge --update world"?

If one doesn't use "--deep" not all the packages get updated. Thats what
bothers me. Later on this mail you say that even you make "emerge -iDN
world" on a daily basis.


--snip

> Also, the world file is a simple way to keep a package version (by
> removing it from world), for instance, I don't wanna upgrade mysql
> with my nightly "emerge -uDN world", so, its not in my world file.
> 

Nothing prevents me of doing the same thing, right? ;-)

> Also note that "indirect" dependencies can be a pain, and packages may
> depend on a LOT of other packages, if you want an example, check
> "emerge -euDt links -pv". You can check indirect dependencies! I just
> say there are quite a few, and portage knows how to deal with all this
> stuff (at least never proved me wrong).
> 

Yes, and putting almost all of the packages in the world list does not
prevent portage of doing its job.

So who and why would use "emerge world" and "emerge --update world" ?

-- 
Best regards,
Daniel

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-05 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-05  9:48 [gentoo-user] world favorites: pros and cons Daniel
2006-07-05 10:10 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-05 10:21   ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-05 10:18 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-05 10:55   ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-05 11:11     ` Daniel
2006-07-05 11:33       ` Rumen Yotov
2006-07-05 11:54         ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 12:14       ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-05 12:43         ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 13:16           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-05 14:47             ` Alan McKinnon
2006-07-05 13:21           ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-05 14:29           ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 15:08             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-05 16:53               ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 20:15                 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-05 16:38           ` Richard Fish
2006-07-05 17:10             ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 18:15               ` Richard Fish
2006-07-05 18:59                 ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 19:47                   ` Richard Fish
2006-07-05 16:54           ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-05 18:30             ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 19:17               ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-05 20:01                 ` Daniel Iliev [this message]
2006-07-28 18:30                 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-28 18:46                   ` [gentoo-user] " Jim Ramsay
2006-07-28 18:57                     ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-28 19:10                       ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-28 19:30                         ` Jim Ramsay
2006-07-28 20:39                           ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-28 21:03                             ` Jim Ramsay
2006-07-28 21:03                               ` Jim Ramsay
2006-08-07 16:53                           ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-05 22:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Daniel Iliev
2006-07-05 22:43   ` Ryan Tandy

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