Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[gentuxx]

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Jason A. Booth wrote:
> Apologies if this is silly, but google didn't do it for me.
>
> I've recently updated a lot of things, and am doing emerge -u world
> right now.. but from my user account, I lost the ability to get
> back to a tty. seems really odd and there aren't any kde key
> bindings in my way (that I know of). Anyone seen this?
>
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First of all, you should start a new thread when you have a new
question.  I'm probably being a hypocrite, just because I don't know
how to break/change the thread-ID in Thunderbird without creating an
entirely new mail.  But, it's not proper "net-iquette" to reply to
someone else's message with a /completely/ new topic without creating
a new thread.

That being said, if you're saying what I think you're saying, I
haven't been able to switch terminals as you suggest once X and a
window manager (like KDE or Gnome) is up and running.  Don't know if
it's because of X, or KDE, or GDM, or whatever.  But, you're not
alone.  ;-)  It's not a problem for me, I usually have about 5-10
different terminal sessions going at any given time, they just happen
to be managed by KDE.  I manually start gdm when I want to go into a
GUI session, and everything works fine as far as CTRL+ALT+F[123456789]
before I start the X session.

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[gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Jason A. Booth]

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Apologies if this is silly, but google didn't do it for me.

I've recently updated a lot of things, and am doing emerge -u world right 
now.. but from my user account, I lost the ability to get back to a tty. 
seems really odd and there aren't any kde key bindings in my way (that I know 
of). Anyone seen this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Teresa and Dale]

Jason A. Booth wrote:

>see previous: guess i didn't notice the (RE:)
>  
>

Look in your xorg.conf file and see if you have this:

> # Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
> # (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
> # events.
>
> #    Option "DontVTSwitch"


Make sure that is commented out.  If it is not, it won't let you
switch.  Oh, logout of the GUI and do a ctrl alt bcksp to make it read
the config file for the new change, IF you have to change it.

Maybe that will help. 

Dale
:-)  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Jason A. Booth]

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On Saturday 10 June 2006 23:15, gentuxx wrote:
> Jason A. Booth wrote:
> > Apologies if this is silly, but google didn't do it for me.
> >
> > I've recently updated a lot of things, and am doing emerge -u world
> > right now.. but from my user account, I lost the ability to get
> > back to a tty. seems really odd and there aren't any kde key
> > bindings in my way (that I know of). Anyone seen this?
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jason A. Booth PGP public key(85D1F7FC):
> > http://hyperintelligent.net/~jbooth/jbooth_key.asc
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> First of all, you should start a new thread when you have a new
> question. 
 ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good -- doesn't qualify?

> I'm probably being a hypocrite, just because I don't know 
I'll tell ya then: yep

> how to break/change the thread-ID in Thunderbird without creating an
> entirely new mail.  But, it's not proper "net-iquette" to reply to
> someone else's message with a /completely/ new topic without creating
> a new thread.
well i don't see=(view) it that way, i see a totally new thread.. maybe i do 
need schooling in kmail

>
> That being said, if you're saying what I think you're saying, I
> haven't been able to switch terminals as you suggest once X and a
> window manager (like KDE or Gnome) is up and running.  Don't know if
> it's because of X, or KDE, or GDM, or whatever.  But, you're not
> alone.  ;-)  
well then it's not only unacceptable to me then
> It's not a problem for me, I usually have about 5-10 
> different terminal sessions going at any given time, they just happen
> to be managed by KDE.  
/me gives you props

> I manually start gdm when I want to go into a 
> GUI session, and everything works fine as far as CTRL+ALT+F[123456789]
> before I start the X session.
>
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you didn't answer my question, but:
 <that> is still hella cute ;-)
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[gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Jason A. Booth]

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see previous: guess i didn't notice the (RE:)
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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Teresa and Dale]

Jason A. Booth wrote:

>On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:00, Teresa and Dale wrote:
>  
>
>>"DontVTSwitch"
>>    
>>
>not found.. but much love for trying..
>  
>

It was worth a look I guess.  As to stopping emerge to logout and such,
emerge screen and give it a try.  When you want to run a program, such
as emerge, that will take a while and you may want to leave it running
in the background, you just type in screen -S <name that is short> and
hit enter.  Then type in your command.  If you want to detach or go away
while it is still running, just do a ctrl a then hit d.  Screen takes a
bit of getting used to but it comes in real handy sometimes.  I use it
for long compiles, OOo, KDE or the like.  When you want to reconnect to
check on it, just type in screen -r <name you gave earlier>.  Here is a
example of mine right now:

> root@smoker / # screen -list
> There are screens on:
>         10057.emerge    (Detached)
>         30183.FAH1      (Detached)
> 2 Sockets in /var/run/screen/S-root.
>
> root@smoker / #


I have two screens running, one for folding, one for a emerge -e system
that I started a bit ago.  If I want to check on the emerge one, I just
type in screen -r emerge and it comes right up.

Hope that helps.  Maybe you can get the other sorted soon.

Oh, check /etc/inittab and make sure these are in there:

> # TERMINALS
> c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
> c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
> c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
> c4:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
> c5:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
> c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux


That is what gives you those consoles.  They should NOT be commented out
though.  Other than this, I can't think of anything else, unless a key
is out on your keyboard.  ;-)

Dale
:-) :-)


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[gentoo-user] Way OT: welcome to my mountain paradise.

[Jason A. Booth]

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I'm no jerk. I don't play 1up games, i don't even farm mushrooms. stop by if 
you want to, but call first.
i'm always down to"geek out" with someone who can be real.

On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:40, Jason A. Booth wrote:
> see previous: guess i didn't notice the (RE:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Jason A. Booth]

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On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:00, Teresa and Dale wrote:
> Jason A. Booth wrote:
> >see previous: guess i didn't notice the (RE:)
>
> Look in your xorg.conf file and see if you have this:
> > # Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
> > # (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
> > # events.
> >
> > #    Option "DontVTSwitch"
>
> Make sure that is commented out.  If it is not, it won't let you
> switch.  Oh, logout of the GUI and do a ctrl alt bcksp to make it read
> the config file for the new change, IF you have to change it.
>
> Maybe that will help.
>
> Dale
thanks dale, i can't(won't log out of X, i.e. the emerge -u world thing), but 
i will check that...
double cheers,
~J
>
> :-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Jason A. Booth]

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On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:00, Teresa and Dale wrote:
> "DontVTSwitch"
not found.. but much love for trying..
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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Mick]

On 11/06/06, Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:

What is the following entry in /etc/inittab for?

# SERIAL CONSOLES
#s0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS0 vt100
#s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS1 vt100

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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Teresa and Dale]

Mick wrote:

> On 11/06/06, Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
>
> What is the following entry in /etc/inittab for?
>
> # SERIAL CONSOLES
> #s0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS0 vt100
> #s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS1 vt100
>

Back in the old days they were for terminals that hooked to the serial
ports on the back.  Here is a link: 
http://www.wyse.com/products/gpt/wy55es.asp  I used to sit at one of
those and it gets old.  The beep that thing has drove me nuts.  We had a
IBM system with a blazing fast 25MHz single CPU.  We had about 180
people running off that along with about 40 printers.  Some of the
printers were Genicom 4440's.  Geez they were fast.

That's what I remember that being for.  Hope I'm right.

Dale
:-) :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Justin R Findlay]

On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 11:45:35PM -0700, Jason A. Booth wrote:
> Apologies if this is silly, but google didn't do it for me.
> 
> I've recently updated a lot of things, and am doing emerge -u world right 
> now.. but from my user account, I lost the ability to get back to a tty. 
> seems really odd and there aren't any kde key bindings in my way (that I know 
> of). Anyone seen this?

I have.  In my case it locks up the whole X session and I have to log in
remotely and restart kdm.  The 'solution' I've adopted for now is to use
gdm.


Justin
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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Sunday 11 June 2006 09:35, Jason A. Booth wrote:

> > First of all, you should start a new thread when you have a new
> > question.
>
>  ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good -- doesn't qualify?

you did not start a new thread, you captured on.
Don't click on reply and change subject/text, click on new mail!

>
> > I'm probably being a hypocrite, just because I don't know
>
> I'll tell ya then: yep
>
> > how to break/change the thread-ID in Thunderbird without creating an
> > entirely new mail.  But, it's not proper "net-iquette" to reply to
> > someone else's message with a /completely/ new topic without creating
> > a new thread.
>
> well i don't see=(view) it that way, i see a totally new thread.. maybe i
> do need schooling in kmail

I am using kmail. And you took over the thread. In the future, click on new 
mail if you want to start a new thread. 


>
> > That being said, if you're saying what I think you're saying, I
> > haven't been able to switch terminals as you suggest once X and a
> > window manager (like KDE or Gnome) is up and running.  Don't know if
> > it's because of X, or KDE, or GDM, or whatever.  But, you're not
> > alone.  ;-)
>
> well then it's not only unacceptable to me then

Have you checked your xorg.conf and kdmrc?
You can turn it of in xorg.conf and maybe in kdmrc. Have you done etc-update?

   Option "DontVTSwitch"  "boolean"
              This  disallows  the  use  of the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence (where Fn
              refers to one of the numbered function keys).  That sequence  is
              normally used to switch to another "virtual terminal" on operat-
              ing systems  that  have  this  feature.   When  this  option  is
              enabled,  that key sequence has no special meaning and is passed
              to clients.  Default: off.
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[gentoo-user] Re: ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Mick]

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Jason A. Booth wrote:

> thanks dale, i can't(won't log out of X, i.e. the emerge -u world thing),
> but i will check that...
> double cheers,

As Dale said, that's the beauty of Screen.  You can detach it, exit X,
re-attach on the console and see what's happening, detach it once more,
startx, fire up a terminal and re-attach it . . . and so on.  You can also
ssh into your box and attach to your screen session remotely.  I think that
screen is most users favourite tool?
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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Sunday 11 June 2006 10:40, Justin R Findlay wrote:
> I have.  In my case it locks up the whole X session and I have to log in
> remotely and restart kdm.  The 'solution' I've adopted for now is to use
> gdm.

In the past when X has frozen on my computer I have often had luck with 
logging on remotely and then running

# chvt 1

as root. Then I could kill the app that was causing the freeze (amarok used to 
do that occasionally).

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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Sunday 11 June 2006 09:35, Jason A. Booth wrote:
> > First of all, you should start a new thread when you have a new
> > question.
>
>  ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good -- doesn't qualify?

It is called hijacking a thread [1]. Don't do it.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking

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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Jason A. Booth]

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On Sunday 11 June 2006 01:23, Mick wrote:
> On 11/06/06, Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
>
> What is the following entry in /etc/inittab for?
>
> # SERIAL CONSOLES
> #s0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS0 vt100
> #s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 9600 ttyS1 vt100
Dumb terminals on serial port I think
>
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> Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Richard Fish]

On 6/11/06, Jason A. Booth <jbooth@hyperintelligent.net> wrote:
> On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:00, Teresa and Dale wrote:
> > "DontVTSwitch"
> not found.. but much love for trying..

Try posting your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Or maybe better email it to me
privately to save some bandwidth for those who have to pay by the
byte.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ctrl-alt-f(123456) dono worky so good

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:58:53 +0000, Mick wrote:

> I think that
> screen is most users favourite tool?

There are two types of users, those that have never tried screen and
those that could not imagine life without it. I spent far too long in the
first group :)


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