[gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Michael Schmarck]

Hello.

I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
that I don't get the german man pages installed.

How would I do that?

Thanks,

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:

> I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
> sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
> that I don't get the german man pages installed.
>
> How would I do that?

Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:

sys-apps/man-pages -nls

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Willie Wong]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs squawked:
> > I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
> > sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
> > that I don't get the german man pages installed.
> >
> > How would I do that?
> 
> Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
> 
> sys-apps/man-pages -nls
> 

Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread
has the nls USE flag.

Thanks,

W

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Henry Gebhardt]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Willie Wong <wwong@princeton.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs squawked:
>  >
>  > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
>  >
>  > sys-apps/man-pages -nls
>
>  Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread
>  has the nls USE flag.

Howabout

      sys-apps/man-pages -linguas_de

I haven't tested it with that particular package, thou.

~Henry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb Henry Gebhardt:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Willie Wong <wwong@princeton.edu> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs 
squawked:
> >  > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
> >  >
> >  > sys-apps/man-pages -nls
> >
> >  Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread
> >  has the nls USE flag.
>
> Howabout
>
>       sys-apps/man-pages -linguas_de

In this case, nls controls wether or not other languages should be installed 
(they are in separate packages, like man-pages-de). LINGUAS control which 
languages are installed if nls is set.

Bye...

	Dirk

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[gentoo-user] Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Michael Schmarck]

Henry Gebhardt <hsggebhardt@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Willie Wong <wwong@princeton.edu> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs
>> squawked:
>>  >
>>  > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
>>  >
>>  > sys-apps/man-pages -nls
>>
>>  Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread
>>  has the nls USE flag.
> 
> Howabout
> 
>       sys-apps/man-pages -linguas_de

This works just fine!

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Alex Schuster]

Willie Wong writes:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs 
> squawked: 
> > > I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
> > > sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
> > > that I don't get the german man pages installed.
> > >
> > > How would I do that?
> >
> > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
> >
> > sys-apps/man-pages -nls
>
> Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread
> has the nls USE flag.

I don't think so. But: /etc/portage/bashrc is evaluated by emerge, and you 
can put any stuff you want into there. Like this:

if [[ $CATEGORY/$PN == sys-apps/man-pages ]]
then
	LINGUAS=
fi


It seems to be common practice to put some more general code into there, and 
have package-specific file in sub-directories. Mine look slike this:

  envFile=/etc/portage/package.env/$CATEGORY/$PN
  if [[ -f $envFile-$PV ]]
  then
          . "$envFile-$PV"
  elif [[ -f $envFile ]]
  then
          . "$envFile"
  fi

So I would have a file /etc/portage/package.env/sys-apps/man-pages 
containing "LINGUAS=", 

        Wonko
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[gentoo-user] Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Michael Schmarck]

Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org> wrote:

> Willie Wong writes:
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:07:16PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dirk Heinrichs
>> squawked:
>> > > I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
>> > > sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
>> > > that I don't get the german man pages installed.
>> > >
>> > > How would I do that?
>> >
>> > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
>> >
>> > sys-apps/man-pages -nls
>>
>> Does this work for other packages? For example, I don't think acroread
>> has the nls USE flag.
> 
> I don't think so. But: /etc/portage/bashrc is evaluated by emerge, and you
> can put any stuff you want into there. Like this:
> 
> if [[ $CATEGORY/$PN == sys-apps/man-pages ]]
> then
> LINGUAS=
> fi
> 
> 
> It seems to be common practice to put some more general code into there,
> and have package-specific file in sub-directories. Mine look slike this:
> 
>   envFile=/etc/portage/package.env/$CATEGORY/$PN
>   if [[ -f $envFile-$PV ]]
>   then
>           . "$envFile-$PV"
>   elif [[ -f $envFile ]]
>   then
>           . "$envFile"
>   fi
> 
> So I would have a file /etc/portage/package.env/sys-apps/man-pages
> containing "LINGUAS=",

I did as you described. When I now run "emerge -vpt man-pages", I get:

# emerge -vpt man-pages

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.78 [2.42] USE="nls" LINGUAS="-cs% -da% de%* -es% -fr% -it% -ja% -nl% -pl% -ro% -ru% -zh_CN%" 1,823 kB 
[ebuild  N    ]  app-i18n/man-pages-de-0.5-r1  510 kB 

# cat /etc/portage/package.env/sys-apps/man-pages
export LINGUAS=

# cat /etc/portage/bashrc 
# <news:200803121731.56376.wonko@wonkology.org>

envFile=/etc/portage/package.env/$CATEGORY/$PN
if [[ -f $envFile-$PV ]]
then
        . "$envFile-$PV"
elif [[ -f $envFile ]]
then
        . "$envFile"
fi

It seems as if this does not work - or does it?

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Alex Schuster]

Michael Schmarck writes:

> I did as you described. When I now run "emerge -vpt man-pages", I get:
>
> # emerge -vpt man-pages
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.78 [2.42] USE="nls" LINGUAS="-cs%
> -da% de%* -es% -fr% -it% -ja% -nl% -pl% -ro% -ru% -zh_CN%" 1,823 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]  app-i18n/man-pages-de-0.5-r1  510 kB
[...]
> It seems as if this does not work - or does it?

Actually it does, but the emerge -p output does not show that. Looks 
like /etc/portage/bashrc is evaluated by /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh, 
and this is involved only when something is unpacked, compiled, installed, 
and such. Sorry. You could put a
    echo "LINGUAS=$LINGUAS"
into /etc/portage/package.env/sys-apps/man-pages to check. But in this 
case -linguas_de in /etc/portage/package.use is the far better approach of 
course.

	Wonko
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[gentoo-user] Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Michael Schmarck]

Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> 
>> I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
>> sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
>> that I don't get the german man pages installed.
>>
>> How would I do that?
> 
> Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
> 
> sys-apps/man-pages -nls

No. I'm not looking for a way to set -nls for man-pages, I'm
looking for a way to modify LINGUAS.

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> >> I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
> >> sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
> >> that I don't get the german man pages installed.
> >>
> >> How would I do that?
> >
> > Put this in /etc/portage/package.use:
> >
> > sys-apps/man-pages -nls
>
> No. I'm not looking for a way to set -nls for man-pages, I'm
> looking for a way to modify LINGUAS.

You don't need to modify LINGUAS, unless you want to install man pages for 
different languages than what you have in your LINGUAS. Read the ebuild: 
nls switches on or off installation of man pages in other languages, and 
_if_ nls is set then LINGUAS controls which other laguages to install. So 
what you want (for this package) is to set -nls.

Bye...

	Dirk
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Michael Schmarck]

Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
>> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
>> > Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
>> >> I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
>> >> sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
>> >> that I don't get the german man pages installed.
>> >>
>> >> How would I do that?
[...]
> _if_ nls is set then LINGUAS controls which other laguages to install. So
> what you want (for this package) is to set -nls.

Maybe. But what I'm asking for is a way to set LINGUAS differently,
depending on the package.

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> >> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
> >> > Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> >> >> I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
> >> >> sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
> >> >> that I don't get the german man pages installed.
> >> >>
> >> >> How would I do that?
>
> [...]
>
> > _if_ nls is set then LINGUAS controls which other laguages to install.
> > So what you want (for this package) is to set -nls.
>
> Maybe. But what I'm asking for is a way to set LINGUAS differently,
> depending on the package.

No, that was not what you asked for. See above.

You didn't want the german man pages installed. This is achieved by 
unsetting nls for this package.

Bye...

	Dirk
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[gentoo-user] Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Michael Schmarck]

Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
>> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
>> > Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
>> >> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
>> >> > Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
>> >> >> I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
>> >> >> sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
>> >> >> that I don't get the german man pages installed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How would I do that?
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > _if_ nls is set then LINGUAS controls which other laguages to install.
>> > So what you want (for this package) is to set -nls.
>>
>> Maybe. But what I'm asking for is a way to set LINGUAS differently,
>> depending on the package.
> 
> No, that was not what you asked for. See above.

Yes, please see above! Especially check the subject.

But even in what you quoted, I'm asking for a way to modify
the value of LINGUAS.

> You didn't want the german man pages installed. This is achieved by
> unsetting nls for this package.

I wanted to have LINGUAS be set differently for some packages.

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Setting LINGUAS seperately for some packages

[Davi Vidal]

Em Thursday 13 March 2008, Michael Schmarck escreveu:
> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> >> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
> >> > Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> >> >> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck:
> >> >> >> I'd like to set LINGUAS=de for almost every package. But for the
> >> >> >> sys-apps/man-pages package, I'd like LINGUAS not to be set, so
> >> >> >> that I don't get the german man pages installed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> How would I do that?
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> > _if_ nls is set then LINGUAS controls which other laguages to install.
> >> > So what you want (for this package) is to set -nls.
> >>
> >> Maybe. But what I'm asking for is a way to set LINGUAS differently,
> >> depending on the package.
> >
> > No, that was not what you asked for. See above.
>
> Yes, please see above! Especially check the subject.
>
> But even in what you quoted, I'm asking for a way to modify
> the value of LINGUAS.
>
> > You didn't want the german man pages installed. This is achieved by
> > unsetting nls for this package.
>
> I wanted to have LINGUAS be set differently for some packages.
>

	In your /etc/portage/package.use (or /etc/paludis/use.conf) try the 
following:

category/package linguas_YOUR-LANGUAGE

	In my case, I'm using the system in English, but I want my OpenOffice in 
Portuguese (Brazilian):

app-office/openoffice linguas_pt_BR


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