[gentoo-user] USE flags question

[gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Anthony E. Caudel]

Am I correct in thinking that USE flags in 
/etc/portage/profiles/use.desc are global flags and should be placed in 
/etc/make.conf whereas those in use.local.desc are only local flags and 
should only be placed in /etc/portage/package.use with the appropriate 
package?

Tony
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Ryan Tandy]

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> Am I correct in thinking that USE flags in 
> /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc are global flags and should be placed in 
> /etc/make.conf whereas those in use.local.desc are only local flags and 
> should only be placed in /etc/portage/package.use with the appropriate 
> package?

It doesn't really matter.  Where you should put them depends on how you 
want them to take effect.  A flag that only affects one package will 
affect that one package regardless of whether it's in make.conf or 
package.use, so I prefer to put it in make.conf for clarity, especially 
in the --info context.  On the other hand, flags that many people 
consider to be global (apache2, mysql, php, etc) I only enable for one 
or two specific packages, as needed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Calvin Walton]

On 5/31/06, Anthony E. Caudel <acaudel@gt.rr.com> wrote:
> Am I correct in thinking that USE flags in
> /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc are global flags and should be placed in
> /etc/make.conf whereas those in use.local.desc are only local flags and
> should only be placed in /etc/portage/package.use with the appropriate
> package?
>
> Tony

To tell the truth, you can put either kind of use flag in either file.
The difference is what you want to apply the flag to.

If you want only a single package to have a "global" use flag set
differently from the rest of the system, you put it in package.use. If
you see a "local" flag that might later be used by other packages, or
is used by multiple packages, you might want to put it in make.conf.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Teresa and Dale]

Calvin Walton wrote:

>
> To tell the truth, you can put either kind of use flag in either file.
> The difference is what you want to apply the flag to.
>
> If you want only a single package to have a "global" use flag set
> differently from the rest of the system, you put it in package.use. If
> you see a "local" flag that might later be used by other packages, or
> is used by multiple packages, you might want to put it in make.conf.


This is something I ran into a while back.  For some reason the doc
would not compile for hal.  I wanted the docs for everything else though
so putting -doc in the USE line in make.conf would remove the docs for
everything, not just hal.  I put this in /etc/portage/package.use: 
sys-apps/hal    -doc  That way it would not enable the doc part for hal
but would leave it for everything else.  You could reverse that function
if you wanted to.  You could disable doc for everything in make.conf
then make a exception in package.use for hal, if you can get it to
compile with no errors.

Did that help any?  Sometimes actual experience is better than theory.

Dale
:-)  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:15:31 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote:

> This is something I ran into a while back.  For some reason the doc
> would not compile for hal.  I wanted the docs for everything else though
> so putting -doc in the USE line in make.conf would remove the docs for
> everything, not just hal. 

The doc USE flag shouldn't affect standard documentation, such as man and
info pages. According to use.desc it 'Adds extra documentation (API,
Javadoc, etc)'.


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:15:10 -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote:

> It doesn't really matter.  Where you should put them depends on how you 
> want them to take effect.  A flag that only affects one package will 
> affect that one package regardless of whether it's in make.conf or 
> package.use, so I prefer to put it in make.conf for clarity, especially 
> in the --info context. 

Local flags may be defined for more than one packages, with different
meanings, whereas global flags tend to be more consistent. So it may be
safer to put local flags in package.use to avoid the situation where the
same flag with a different meaning is added to another package you use.


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Teresa and Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:

>On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:15:31 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote:
>
>  
>
>>This is something I ran into a while back.  For some reason the doc
>>would not compile for hal.  I wanted the docs for everything else though
>>so putting -doc in the USE line in make.conf would remove the docs for
>>everything, not just hal. 
>>    
>>
>
>The doc USE flag shouldn't affect standard documentation, such as man and
>info pages. According to use.desc it 'Adds extra documentation (API,
>Javadoc, etc)'.
>
>
>  
>

Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
that takes up?

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
> not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
> that takes up?

hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?


cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Teresa and Dale]

Enrico Weigelt wrote:

>* Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>  
>
>>Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
>>not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
>>that takes up?
>>    
>>
>
>hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
>of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?
>
>
>cu
>  
>

That would be nice if you have more than one system.  After all, you
only need one set of man pages.  I didn't see anything in
/usr/portage/profile/use.desc.  Good question though.  /usr/share/man
takes up almost 30MBs on my system.

Dale
:-) :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 12:41 schrieb Teresa and Dale:
> Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >* Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
> >>not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
> >>that takes up?
> >
> >hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
> >of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?
> >
> >
> >cu
>
> That would be nice if you have more than one system.  After all, you
> only need one set of man pages.  I didn't see anything in
> /usr/portage/profile/use.desc.  Good question though.  /usr/share/man
> takes up almost 30MBs on my system.

There is the FEATURE="noman".

>From man make.conf:

"noman  Do not install manpages."

Seems to be what you are looking for :)

> Dale

Hand,
Michael


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Teresa and Dale]

Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

>Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 12:41 schrieb Teresa and Dale:
>  
>
>>Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>* Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
>>>>not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
>>>>that takes up?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
>>>of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?
>>>
>>>
>>>cu
>>>      
>>>
>>That would be nice if you have more than one system.  After all, you
>>only need one set of man pages.  I didn't see anything in
>>/usr/portage/profile/use.desc.  Good question though.  /usr/share/man
>>takes up almost 30MBs on my system.
>>    
>>
>
>There is the FEATURE="noman".
>
>>From man make.conf:
>
>"noman  Do not install manpages."
>
>Seems to be what you are looking for :)
>
>  
>
>>Dale
>>    
>>
>
>Hand,
>Michael
>
>
>  
>

Oooooh, I was looking in the USE options.  I need to remember that when
I get my servers set up again.  One of them only has a 2.5GB drive and
it gets full sometimes.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

[Ryan Tandy]

Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Teresa and Dale <teendale@vista-express.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
>> not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
>> that takes up?
> 
> hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
> of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?
> 
> 
> cu

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