[gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Kurt Guenther]

I updated to the latest gnome:

gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1

but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server.  This was
previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  by adding:

[security]
DisallowTCP=false
RelaxPermissions=2

However, gdm.conf was renamed to custom.conf, and the values don't seem
to work anymore.

Any ideas?


--Kurt


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:22, Kurt Guenther wrote:
> I updated to the latest gnome:
>
> gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1
>
> but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server.  This was
> previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  by adding:
>

gnome can not act as a X server, because it is not one!

You meant login manager, right?  that is something completly different.

any real reason for this?
DisallowTCP=false

?

except opening a real severe security hole?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther <kurtg@serent.com> wrote:
>
> I updated to the latest gnome:
>
> gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1
>
> but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server.  This was
> previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  by adding:
>

Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager.

> [security]
> DisallowTCP=false
> RelaxPermissions=2

This certainly has NOTHING to do with your problem. You seem to want
GDM as your login manager, wich is understandable. Maybe Gnome
installation changed some config files and you carelessly ran
etc-update.

>
> However, gdm.conf was renamed to custom.conf, and the values don't seem
> to work anymore.

Are you getting GDM as your login manager when you run /etc/init.d/xdm
start? If not, that's because your /etc/rc.conf has different
settings. Check it, it should look like:

DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm"
XSESSION="gnome"

>
> Any ideas?
>

Yeah, you need to read some man pages about what is the X server, what
are Login Managers and Window Managers and how you configure them in
Gentoo. I recommend:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml

Good luck,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Kurt Guenther]

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:22, Kurt Guenther wrote:
>   
>> I updated to the latest gnome:
>>
>> gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1
>>
>> but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server.  This was
>> previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  by adding:
>>
>>     
>
> gnome can not act as a X server, because it is not one!
>
> You meant login manager, right?  that is something completly different.
>
> any real reason for this?
> DisallowTCP=false
>
> ?
>
> except opening a real severe security hole?
>   


Ok, window manager.   Just want to pop remote windows on my desktop.

As for security,  I use iptables to block the port and I only open it in
a secure office setting.

--Kurt

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Kurt Guenther]

Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther <kurtg@serent.com> wrote:
>>
>> I updated to the latest gnome:
>>
>> gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1
>>
>> but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server.  This was
>> previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  by adding:
>>
>
> Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager.


Right, right.  I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the
proper terminology. 

Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop.  I have gnome setup
(including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X
configured to use an external port such that I can "xhost +servername"
and pop a window on my desktop.

Previously, this was done via gdm.conf and I've been doing this for
years this way and if you look in:

 /usr/share/*gdm*/defaults.*conf*

you'll see the potential settings. 

--Kurt





>
>> [security]
>> DisallowTCP=false
>> RelaxPermissions=2
>
> This certainly has NOTHING to do with your problem. You seem to want
> GDM as your login manager, wich is understandable. Maybe Gnome
> installation changed some config files and you carelessly ran
> etc-update.

gdm is my login manager.





>
>>
>> However, gdm.conf was renamed to custom.conf, and the values don't seem
>> to work anymore.
>
> Are you getting GDM as your login manager when you run /etc/init.d/xdm
> start? If not, that's because your /etc/rc.conf has different
> settings. Check it, it should look like:
>
> DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm"
> XSESSION="gnome"



>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>
> Yeah, you need to read some man pages about what is the X server, what
> are Login Managers and Window Managers and how you configure them in
> Gentoo. I recommend:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml
>
> Good luck,
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Wednesday 17 May 2006 17:23, Kurt Guenther wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:22, Kurt Guenther wrote:
> >> I updated to the latest gnome:
> >>
> >> gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1
> >>
> >> but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server.  This was
> >> previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  by adding:
> >
> > gnome can not act as a X server, because it is not one!
> >
> > You meant login manager, right?  that is something completly different.
> >
> > any real reason for this?
> > DisallowTCP=false
> >
> > ?
> >
> > except opening a real severe security hole?
>
> Ok, window manager.   Just want to pop remote windows on my desktop.
>
> As for security,  I use iptables to block the port and I only open it in
> a secure office setting.
>

in that case might be ssh with X forwarding the right solution?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther <kurtg@serent.com> wrote:
> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> > On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther <kurtg@serent.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I updated to the latest gnome:
> >>
> >> gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1
> >>
> >> but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server.  This was
> >> previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf  by adding:
> >>
> >
> > Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager.
>
>
> Right, right.  I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the
> proper terminology.
>
> Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop.  I have gnome setup
> (including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X
> configured to use an external port such that I can "xhost +servername"
> and pop a window on my desktop.
>
> Previously, this was done via gdm.conf and I've been doing this for
> years this way and if you look in:
>
>  /usr/share/*gdm*/defaults.*conf*
>
> you'll see the potential settings.
>

Well, you made yourself clear now! Your previous email gave me and
Volker a completely wrong view of your problem, and you gotta admit
you sent a wrong subject and a body that contained information leading
us to think as we did.

You probably can do all this setting using GDM itself, then check the
config files and see how they were written by the app. Go System ->
Configure Login Manager and check what you need there...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Matthias Bethke]

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Hi Kurt,
on Wednesday, 2006-05-17 at 11:33:30, you wrote:
> > Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager.
> 
> Right, right.  I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the
> proper terminology. 

You both do :)
Gnome is a desktop environment that comes with a window manager
(currently Metacity IIRC, used to be Sawfish) but can be used with a
number of other window managers as well.

> Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop.  I have gnome setup
> (including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X
> configured to use an external port such that I can "xhost +servername"
> and pop a window on my desktop.

ssh has been suggested, and I second that. Much better than xhost 'n
stuff.

cheers!
	Matthias
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.

[Kurt Guenther]

ssh is too slow for X.  It's okay if you're using a quick utility, but
working on an IDE all day long is tedious.   (Although, my new laptop
has plenty of horse power (dual-centrino), so it's not as much of an
issue working off my desktop.)

As for security, I use iptables when I'm not in my office.

--Kurt




Matthias Bethke wrote:
> Hi Kurt,
> on Wednesday, 2006-05-17 at 11:33:30, you wrote:
>   
>>> Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager.
>>>       
>> Right, right.  I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the
>> proper terminology. 
>>     
>
> You both do :)
> Gnome is a desktop environment that comes with a window manager
> (currently Metacity IIRC, used to be Sawfish) but can be used with a
> number of other window managers as well.
>
>   
>> Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop.  I have gnome setup
>> (including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X
>> configured to use an external port such that I can "xhost +servername"
>> and pop a window on my desktop.
>>     
>
> ssh has been suggested, and I second that. Much better than xhost 'n
> stuff.
>
> cheers!
> 	Matthias
>   

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