[gentoo-user] Modular X

[gentoo-user] Modular X

[Jim]

Would this be a problem with the EBuild or with the app?  I am try to
install tightvnc and get the following error.

>>> Source unpacked.
>>> Compiling source
in /var/tmp/portage/tightvnc-1.2.9-r1/work/vnc_unixsrc ...
/usr/portage/net-misc/tightvnc/tightvnc-1.2.9-r1.ebuild: line 41: xmkmf:
command not found

!!! ERROR: net-misc/tightvnc-1.2.9-r1 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1526:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 923:   Called src_compile
  tightvnc-1.2.9-r1.ebuild, line 41:   Called die

I take it xmkmf is no longer used in xorg 7.0?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Alexander Skwar]

Jim wrote:
> Would this be a problem with the EBuild or with the app?  I am try to
> install tightvnc and get the following error.
> 
>>>> Source unpacked.
>>>> Compiling source
> in /var/tmp/portage/tightvnc-1.2.9-r1/work/vnc_unixsrc ...
> /usr/portage/net-misc/tightvnc/tightvnc-1.2.9-r1.ebuild: line 41: xmkmf:
> command not found
> 
> !!! ERROR: net-misc/tightvnc-1.2.9-r1 failed.
> Call stack:
>   ebuild.sh, line 1526:   Called dyn_compile
>   ebuild.sh, line 923:   Called src_compile
>   tightvnc-1.2.9-r1.ebuild, line 41:   Called die
> 
> I take it xmkmf is no longer used in xorg 7.0?

alexander@blatt /var/db/pkg $ epm -qf `which xmkmf `
imake-1.0.1-r1

Please file a bug against tightvnc, as it's missing
a dependency.

BTW: Why use tightvnc at all? Realvnc 4 is as fast in
my experience and there's still somebody workign on it -
seeing that the last update to tightvnc is dated
July 2005, I doubt that anybody maintains it anymore.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Rick van Hattem]

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On Saturday 01 April 2006 22:29, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> BTW: Why use tightvnc at all? Realvnc 4 is as fast in
> my experience and there's still somebody workign on it -
> seeing that the last update to tightvnc is dated
> July 2005, I doubt that anybody maintains it anymore.
>
Realvnc lacks jpeg support, which certainly helps with slow connections.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Jim]

On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 22:29 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> alexander@blatt /var/db/pkg $ epm -qf `which xmkmf `
> imake-1.0.1-r1
> 
> Please file a bug against tightvnc, as it's missing
> a dependency.

Will do.

> BTW: Why use tightvnc at all? Realvnc 4 is as fast in
> my experience and there's still somebody workign on it -
> seeing that the last update to tightvnc is dated
> July 2005, I doubt that anybody maintains it anymore.

I am testing out the different vnc versions along with freeNX to see
what will give me the fastest remote desktop.

> Alexander Skwar

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[W.Kenworthy]

Try using zebedee to both compress and encrypt (if neccessary) the vnc
connection.  Provided a nice usability increase when using vnc through a
modem, though tightvnc was a little better than vnc.

BillK


On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 16:47 -0500, Jim wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 22:29 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > alexander@blatt /var/db/pkg $ epm -qf `which xmkmf `
> > imake-1.0.1-r1
> > 
> > Please file a bug against tightvnc, as it's missing
> > a dependency.
> 
> Will do.
> 
> > BTW: Why use tightvnc at all? Realvnc 4 is as fast in
> > my experience and there's still somebody workign on it -
> > seeing that the last update to tightvnc is dated
> > July 2005, I doubt that anybody maintains it anymore.
> 
> I am testing out the different vnc versions along with freeNX to see
> what will give me the fastest remote desktop.
> 
> > Alexander Skwar
> 
> Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Rick van Hattem]

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On Saturday 01 April 2006 23:47, Jim wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 22:29 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > alexander@blatt /var/db/pkg $ epm -qf `which xmkmf `
> > imake-1.0.1-r1
> >
> > Please file a bug against tightvnc, as it's missing
> > a dependency.
>
> Will do.
>
> > BTW: Why use tightvnc at all? Realvnc 4 is as fast in
> > my experience and there's still somebody workign on it -
> > seeing that the last update to tightvnc is dated
> > July 2005, I doubt that anybody maintains it anymore.
>
> I am testing out the different vnc versions along with freeNX to see
> what will give me the fastest remote desktop.
>
> > Alexander Skwar
>
> Jim
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When you're done testing please report/publish the results, I'm also very 
interested in a fast remote desktop system.

Tightvnc can hog the cpu with the compression sometimes so that's not always a 
good solution either.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Toby 'qubit' Cubitt]

On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 04:26:00PM +0200, Rick van Hattem wrote:
> On Saturday 01 April 2006 23:47, Jim wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 22:29 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > > alexander@blatt /var/db/pkg $ epm -qf `which xmkmf `
> > > imake-1.0.1-r1
> > >
> > > Please file a bug against tightvnc, as it's missing
> > > a dependency.
> >
> > Will do.
> >
> > > BTW: Why use tightvnc at all? Realvnc 4 is as fast in
> > > my experience and there's still somebody workign on it -
> > > seeing that the last update to tightvnc is dated
> > > July 2005, I doubt that anybody maintains it anymore.
> >
> > I am testing out the different vnc versions along with freeNX to see
> > what will give me the fastest remote desktop.
> >
> > > Alexander Skwar
> >
> > Jim
> When you're done testing please report/publish the results, I'm also very 
> interested in a fast remote desktop system.
> 
> Tightvnc can hog the cpu with the compression sometimes so that's not always a 
> good solution either.

I've tried tightVNC and freeNX, both over a relatively slow DSL link
and on an old pentium2 450, and whilst both were usable there's no
competition: freeNX wins hands down.

I also like the fact that freeNX also lets you run single remote
applications, instead of always having to start up a complete remote
desktop - much closer to normal X-forwarding.

The only downside to freeNX was it was more complicated to get
working. (But that may have been due to the complicated things I was
trying to do: everything had to be tunnelled through a firewall using
ssh port-forwarding, and I needed to get my X server to talk to a
remote font server, also via ssh tunnelling, so that fonts on the
application I was running over freeNX would work.)

HTH,

Toby
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Alexander Skwar]

Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote:

> The only downside to freeNX was it was more complicated to get
> working.

The big downside of NX for me is, that your session ends
as soon as NX is stopped. Not so with VNC (no matter which
VNC).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Toby 'qubit' Cubitt]

On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 08:23:41AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote:
> 
> >The only downside to freeNX was it was more complicated to get
> >working.
> 
> The big downside of NX for me is, that your session ends
> as soon as NX is stopped. Not so with VNC (no matter which
> VNC).

I'm not sure that's true. I thought freeNX could have persistent
sessions too. There's an "ENABLE_PERSISTENT_SESSION" option in the
config file, at any rate. I even vaguely remember trying it
once. Perhaps someone else knows more (or has access to a couple of
boxes they could test it on - I don't at the moment).

In any case, the freeNX client can connect to VNC sessions, amongst
others. Not sure whether that gives better performance than VNC
though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X

[Alexander Skwar]

Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 08:23:41AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote:
>> 
>> >The only downside to freeNX was it was more complicated to get
>> >working.
>> 
>> The big downside of NX for me is, that your session ends
>> as soon as NX is stopped. Not so with VNC (no matter which
>> VNC).
> 
> I'm not sure that's true.

Well, it *used to be*. I'd hope that you're right - could
anyone comment on this?

> I thought freeNX could have persistent
> sessions too. There's an "ENABLE_PERSISTENT_SESSION" option in the
> config file, at any rate.

Is that true? Does this allow me to disconnect my freeNX client
from the freeNX server without ending the freeNX session?

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