[gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

[gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

[Roy Wright]

Howdy,

After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering 
ebuild testing,
I decided to give Xgl a try.

The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth.  Big THANK YOU to those 
responsible!

The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too.

Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE.  Not pretty.  :-(
I figured I could live:
* with old fashioned decorations,
* without my background image,
* with my panel stretching across both monitors,
* with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display,
* with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu.

But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning.  So bye-bye Xgl.

OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use 
gnome.
Next gen KDE should have similar features.

Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it 
looks. :-)
Installed gnome.

Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome
sessions.  I don't really see how to do this with one display manager.  
Not sure
how to configure to run multiple display managers.  Currently I use xdm 
to run
kdm.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Roy

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

[Lord Sauron]

On 3/30/06, Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering
> ebuild testing,
> I decided to give Xgl a try.

Neat-o.  Is it in the ~x86 area?

> The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth.  Big THANK YOU to those
> responsible!
>
> The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too.

I'm extremely interested in Xgl.  I didn't know it was hanging around
Gentoo.  Can you send me the link?

> Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE.  Not pretty.  :-(
> I figured I could live:
> * with old fashioned decorations,
> * without my background image,
> * with my panel stretching across both monitors,
> * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display,
> * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu.

Can you try and get me some more detailed info?  I'm a information
gatherer for the Xgl project.  I'm supposed to be ensuring that it has
perfect integration with KDE.

> But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning.  So bye-bye Xgl.

Even more interesting...  Could you get some more info for me there
too?  Perhaps a few clips from the log file?

> OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use
> gnome.
> Next gen KDE should have similar features.
>
> Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it
> looks. :-)

It's not *bad,* but I find it incredibly bland.  It's useable, though
I can't say it's much more...

> Installed gnome.

Weee...  have fun?

> Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome
> sessions.  I don't really see how to do this with one display manager.
> Not sure
> how to configure to run multiple display managers.  Currently I use xdm
> to run
> kdm.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Roy
>
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>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

[Jason Weisberger]

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As far as I know, you can still only get Xgl from a portage overlay.  Check
the Gentoo Forums and you'll find a bunch of links to what you're looking
for.  I've had it working for some time, and it's good, but extremely buggy
and not suitable for production environments (obviously :)

Here's part three of the huge Xgl discussion.  Part 1 is where the original
overlay is at:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-442410-highlight-xgl.html

On 3/31/06, Lord Sauron <lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/30/06, Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering
> > ebuild testing,
> > I decided to give Xgl a try.
>
> Neat-o.  Is it in the ~x86 area?
>
> > The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth.  Big THANK YOU to those
> > responsible!
> >
> > The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too.
>
> I'm extremely interested in Xgl.  I didn't know it was hanging around
> Gentoo.  Can you send me the link?
>
> > Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE.  Not
> pretty.  :-(
> > I figured I could live:
> > * with old fashioned decorations,
> > * without my background image,
> > * with my panel stretching across both monitors,
> > * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display,
> > * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu.
>
> Can you try and get me some more detailed info?  I'm a information
> gatherer for the Xgl project.  I'm supposed to be ensuring that it has
> perfect integration with KDE.
>
> > But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning.  So bye-bye Xgl.
>
> Even more interesting...  Could you get some more info for me there
> too?  Perhaps a few clips from the log file?
>
> > OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use
> > gnome.
> > Next gen KDE should have similar features.
> >
> > Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it
> > looks. :-)
>
> It's not *bad,* but I find it incredibly bland.  It's useable, though
> I can't say it's much more...
>
> > Installed gnome.
>
> Weee...  have fun?
>
> > Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and
> Xgl+gnome
> > sessions.  I don't really see how to do this with one display manager.
> > Not sure
> > how to configure to run multiple display managers.  Currently I use xdm
> > to run
> > kdm.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Roy
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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> GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+
> L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+
> V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+
>                 DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y
> ========= END GCv3.12 ========
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

[Alexander Skwar]

Lord Sauron wrote:

> I'm extremely interested in Xgl.  I didn't know it was hanging around
> Gentoo.  Can you send me the link?

See the frontpage of http://gentoo-wiki.com/ or at least
the Howto section.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

[Roy Wright]

Lord Sauron wrote:

>On 3/30/06, Roy Wright <royw@cisco.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm extremely interested in Xgl.  I didn't know it was hanging around
>Gentoo.  Can you send me the link?
>
>  
>
>>Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE.  Not pretty.  :-(
>>I figured I could live:
>>* with old fashioned decorations,
>>* without my background image,
>>* with my panel stretching across both monitors,
>>* with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display,
>>* with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu.
>>    
>>
>
>Can you try and get me some more detailed info?  I'm a information
>gatherer for the Xgl project.  I'm supposed to be ensuring that it has
>perfect integration with KDE.
>
>  
>
>>But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning.  So bye-bye Xgl.
>>    
>>
>
>Even more interesting...  Could you get some more info for me there
>too?  Perhaps a few clips from the log file?
>  
>
>
>>Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome
>>sessions.  I don't really see how to do this with one display manager.
>>Not sure how to configure to run multiple display managers.  Currently 
>>I use xdm to run kdm.
>>
>>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
Sorry for taking so long to respond, I took a spur of the moment vacation.

The instructions for XGL are at:

  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL

I'll run another test this evening of Xgl+KDE to capture details.

Thank you,
Roy
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