* [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
@ 2006-03-29 22:09 Daevid Vincent
2006-03-29 23:06 ` Philip Webb
2006-03-29 23:59 ` Bo Andresen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daevid Vincent @ 2006-03-29 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
I have a VMWare that I use for LAMP development. I have never put Xorg on
it, nor do I ever want X windows on it. Recently, when I do an 'emerge
-Davut world', I see this:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
vmware ~ # emerge -Davtu world
These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
Calculating world dependencies
!!! Packages for the following atoms are either all
!!! masked or don't exist:
sys-apps/fileutils sys-apps/textutils sys-apps/sh-utils
...done!
[ebuild U ] net-fs/samba-3.0.21b [3.0.14a-r2] +acl -async -automount
-cups -doc -examples -kerberos -ldap -ldapsam -libclamav +mysql -oav +pam
-postgres +python -quotas +readline (-selinux) -swat -syslog -winbind -xml
+xml2 17,143 kB
[ebuild U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre20 [2.1_pre19] -X -directfb -fbcon
+gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +sdl +ssl -svga +tiff -unicode 3,768 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 -X -aalib -alsa -arts -dga
-directfb -esd -fbcon -ggi -libcaca -nas -noaudio -noflagstrip -nojoystick
-novideo +opengl +oss -pic -svga -xinerama +xv 2,541 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1 365 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype -unicode
727 kB
[nomerge ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
[ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts
-cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers -ipv6
-minimal -mmx -nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts
+type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 44,705 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3 732 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-base/opengl-update-3.0.0 0 kB
[ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.3 41 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 19 kB
[nomerge ] sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r5 -nocxx +python -static
[nomerge ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.21 -X* -doc -guile -java +perl +php
+python +ruby* -tcltk
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/php-5.1.2 [5.1.1] -adabas -apache +apache2
-bcmath -berkdb -birdstep +bzip2 -calendar -cdb +cgi -cjk +cli +crypt +ctype
-curl -curlwrappers -db2 -dbase -dbmaker -debug -discard-path -doc -empress
-empress-bcs -esoob -exif -fastbuild -fdftk -filepro -firebird -flatfile
-force-cgi-redirect -frontbase -ftp +gd -gd-external +gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp
-hash -hyperwave-api -iconv -imap -informix -inifile -interbase -iodbc -ipv6
-java-external -kerberos -ldap -libedit -mcve -memlimit +mhash -ming -msql
-mssql +mysql -mysqli +ncurses -nls -oci8 -oci8-instant-client -odbc -pcntl
+pcre -pdo -pdo-external -pic -posix -postgres -qdbm +readline -recode
-reflection -sapdb -sasl +session -sharedext -sharedmem +simplexml -snmp
+soap -sockets -solid +spell -spl +sqlite +ssl -sybase -sybase-ct -sysvipc
-threads -tidy -tokenizer +truetype -vm-goto -vm-switch -wddx +xml
-xmlreader -xmlrpc -xmlwriter -xpm +xsl -yaz -zip +zlib 6,178 kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/libpng-1.2.8-r1 [1.2.8] -doc 375 kB
[nomerge ] sys-apps/most-4.9.5
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/slang-1.4.9-r2 [1.4.9-r1] -cjk -unicode 628 kB
Total size of downloads: 77,229 kB
Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
What is trying to bring in all those NEW x11 packages? How can I prevent
this annoyance?
And what am I supposed to do with this information:
!!! Packages for the following atoms are either all
!!! masked or don't exist:
sys-apps/fileutils sys-apps/textutils sys-apps/sh-utils
Am I supposed to remove those packages?
Ignore this message?
'esearch'ing for them turns up nothing.
"You had me at EHLO" --E.Webb (10.04.05)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
2006-03-29 22:09 [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it Daevid Vincent
@ 2006-03-29 23:06 ` Philip Webb
2006-03-30 0:17 ` Daevid Vincent
2006-03-29 23:59 ` Bo Andresen
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From: Philip Webb @ 2006-03-29 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
060329 Daevid Vincent wrote:
> I have a VMWare that I use for LAMP development.
> I have never put Xorg on it nor do I ever want X windows on it.
> Recently, when I do an 'emerge -Davut world', I see this:
-- snip --
> [ebuild U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre20 [2.1_pre19] -X -directfb -fbcon
> +gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +sdl +ssl -svga +tiff -unicode 3,768 kB
-- snip --
> [ebuild N ] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype -unicode
> 727 kB
> What is trying to bring in all those NEW x11 packages?
> How can I prevent this annoyance?
It's clearer if you do 'emerge -etp links', which requires all the GUI stuff:
'emerge -C links && emerge lynx' should solve your problem.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
2006-03-29 22:09 [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it Daevid Vincent
2006-03-29 23:06 ` Philip Webb
@ 2006-03-29 23:59 ` Bo Andresen
2006-03-30 5:34 ` Alexander Skwar
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bo Andresen @ 2006-03-29 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thursday 30 March 2006 00:09, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> I have a VMWare that I use for LAMP development. I have never put Xorg on
> it, nor do I ever want X windows on it. Recently, when I do an 'emerge
> -Davut world', I see this:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> vmware ~ # emerge -Davtu world
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies
> !!! Packages for the following atoms are either all
> !!! masked or don't exist:
> sys-apps/fileutils sys-apps/textutils sys-apps/sh-utils
Seems you have fileutils, textutils and sh-utils in your world file though
they are not part of portage. Are you using them? If you don't then perhaps
unmerge them..
That is, however, uncorrelated to the problem below.
> ...done!
> [ebuild U ] net-fs/samba-3.0.21b [3.0.14a-r2] +acl -async -automount
> -cups -doc -examples -kerberos -ldap -ldapsam -libclamav +mysql -oav +pam
> -postgres +python -quotas +readline (-selinux) -swat -syslog -winbind -xml
> +xml2 17,143 kB
> [ebuild U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre20 [2.1_pre19] -X -directfb -fbcon
> +gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +sdl +ssl -svga +tiff -unicode 3,768 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 -X -aalib -alsa -arts -dga
> -directfb -esd -fbcon -ggi -libcaca -nas -noaudio -noflagstrip -nojoystick
> -novideo +opengl +oss -pic -svga -xinerama +xv 2,541 kB
^^^^^^^
When opengl is requested links depends on virtual/opengl which is provided by
x11-base/xorg-x11 given that the opengl use flag is enabled for that too...
So just add -opengl to your use flags.
> [ebuild N ] media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1 365 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype
> -unicode 727 kB
> [nomerge ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts
> -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers -ipv6
> -minimal -mmx -nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts
> +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 44,705 kB
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* RE: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
2006-03-29 23:06 ` Philip Webb
@ 2006-03-30 0:17 ` Daevid Vincent
2006-03-30 1:03 ` Ryan Tandy
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From: Daevid Vincent @ 2006-03-30 0:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Webb [mailto:purslow@sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:07 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in
> xorg when I don't use it...
>
> 060329 Daevid Vincent wrote:
> > I have a VMWare that I use for LAMP development.
> > I have never put Xorg on it nor do I ever want X windows on it.
> > Recently, when I do an 'emerge -Davut world', I see this:
> -- snip --
> > [ebuild U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre20 [2.1_pre19] -X
> -directfb -fbcon
> > +gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +sdl +ssl -svga +tiff
> -unicode 3,768 kB
> -- snip --
> > [ebuild N ] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar
> +truetype -unicode
> > 727 kB
> > What is trying to bring in all those NEW x11 packages?
> > How can I prevent this annoyance?
>
> It's clearer if you do 'emerge -etp links', which requires
> all the GUI stuff
OMG! 'links' pulls in _92_ package dependencies?! That's silly.
What confuses me even more now, is that AFAIK, "links" is (according to the
man page) "lynx-like alternative character mode WWW browser", so why then
all the x11 dependencies and such. Shouldn't this thing, by definition, just
work in console mode without all that extra crap?
I "solved" this by adding this to /etc/portage/package.use:
www-client/links -X -directfb -fbcon gpm -javascript -jpeg -livecd -png -sdl
ssl -svga -tiff -unicode
But what seems silly to me is that why does this have jpeg, png, tiff
support if it's in console mode? Will "links" actually SHOW an image? I've
NEVER seen it do that (on any other linux box, even with X support)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
2006-03-30 0:17 ` Daevid Vincent
@ 2006-03-30 1:03 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-03-30 5:24 ` Kristian Poul Herkild
2006-03-30 5:32 ` Alexander Skwar
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Tandy @ 2006-03-30 1:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Daevid Vincent wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Philip Webb [mailto:purslow@sympatico.ca]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:07 PM
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in
>> xorg when I don't use it...
>>
>> 060329 Daevid Vincent wrote:
>>
>>> I have a VMWare that I use for LAMP development.
>>> I have never put Xorg on it nor do I ever want X windows on it.
>>> Recently, when I do an 'emerge -Davut world', I see this:
>>>
>> -- snip --
>>
>>> [ebuild U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre20 [2.1_pre19] -X
>>>
>> -directfb -fbcon
>>
>>> +gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +sdl +ssl -svga +tiff
>>>
>> -unicode 3,768 kB
>> -- snip --
>>
>>> [ebuild N ] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar
>>>
>> +truetype -unicode
>>
>>> 727 kB
>>> What is trying to bring in all those NEW x11 packages?
>>> How can I prevent this annoyance?
>>>
>> It's clearer if you do 'emerge -etp links', which requires
>> all the GUI stuff
>>
>
> OMG! 'links' pulls in _92_ package dependencies?! That's silly.
>
> What confuses me even more now, is that AFAIK, "links" is (according to the
> man page) "lynx-like alternative character mode WWW browser", so why then
> all the x11 dependencies and such. Shouldn't this thing, by definition, just
> work in console mode without all that extra crap?
>
> I "solved" this by adding this to /etc/portage/package.use:
>
> www-client/links -X -directfb -fbcon gpm -javascript -jpeg -livecd -png -sdl
> ssl -svga -tiff -unicode
>
> But what seems silly to me is that why does this have jpeg, png, tiff
> support if it's in console mode? Will "links" actually SHOW an image? I've
> NEVER seen it do that (on any other linux box, even with X support)
>
>
Links has an optional (very basic) graphical browser, enabled when
compiled with USE="X" and started with the command line "links -g". I
often use it on systems early in the build process (I like to get rid of
the CD as soon as possible) while I'm still building GTK+ and Firefox.
The JPEG, PNG, and TIFF flags only have any effect when the X flag is
selected as well. In your case, it was pulling in X because you had SDL
enabled, and in turn OpenGL enabled for SDL. Since SDL and OpenGL are
both GUI libraries (SDL not entirely, I'll admit), you might as well add
'-sdl -opengl' to your global USE in /etc/make.conf since it's a no-X
installation.
HTH.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
2006-03-30 0:17 ` Daevid Vincent
2006-03-30 1:03 ` Ryan Tandy
@ 2006-03-30 5:24 ` Kristian Poul Herkild
2006-03-30 5:32 ` Alexander Skwar
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kristian Poul Herkild @ 2006-03-30 5:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Daevid Vincent wrote:
>
> OMG! 'links' pulls in _92_ package dependencies?! That's silly.
>
> What confuses me even more now, is that AFAIK, "links" is (according to the
> man page) "lynx-like alternative character mode WWW browser", so why then
> all the x11 dependencies and such. Shouldn't this thing, by definition, just
> work in console mode without all that extra crap?
>
> I "solved" this by adding this to /etc/portage/package.use:
>
> www-client/links -X -directfb -fbcon gpm -javascript -jpeg -livecd -png -sdl
> ssl -svga -tiff -unicode
>
> But what seems silly to me is that why does this have jpeg, png, tiff
> support if it's in console mode? Will "links" actually SHOW an image? I've
> NEVER seen it do that (on any other linux box, even with X support)
>
You probably didn't add -X and so on to your make.conf. And yes, links2
can show images when compiled against this and that.
That's what it's doing on my machine, and it works almost as well as dillo.
-Kristian Poul Herkild
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
2006-03-30 0:17 ` Daevid Vincent
2006-03-30 1:03 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-03-30 5:24 ` Kristian Poul Herkild
@ 2006-03-30 5:32 ` Alexander Skwar
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Skwar @ 2006-03-30 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Daevid Vincent wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Philip Webb [mailto:purslow@sympatico.ca]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:07 PM
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in
>> xorg when I don't use it...
>>
>> 060329 Daevid Vincent wrote:
>> > I have a VMWare that I use for LAMP development.
>> > I have never put Xorg on it nor do I ever want X windows on it.
>> > Recently, when I do an 'emerge -Davut world', I see this:
>> -- snip --
>> > [ebuild U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre20 [2.1_pre19] -X
>> -directfb -fbcon
>> > +gpm -javascript +jpeg -livecd +png +sdl +ssl -svga +tiff
>> -unicode 3,768 kB
>> -- snip --
>> > [ebuild N ] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar
>> +truetype -unicode
>> > 727 kB
>> > What is trying to bring in all those NEW x11 packages?
>> > How can I prevent this annoyance?
>>
>> It's clearer if you do 'emerge -etp links', which requires
>> all the GUI stuff
>
> OMG! 'links' pulls in _92_ package dependencies?! That's silly.
No, it's not silly. It's good.
> What confuses me even more now, is that AFAIK, "links" is (according to the
> man page) "lynx-like alternative character mode WWW browser", so why then
> all the x11 dependencies and such. Shouldn't this thing, by definition, just
> work in console mode without all that extra crap?
No, it shouldn't. It should work with all the flags that you
set.
> I "solved" this by adding this to /etc/portage/package.use:
>
> www-client/links -X -directfb -fbcon gpm -javascript -jpeg -livecd -png -sdl
> ssl -svga -tiff -unicode
>
> But what seems silly to me is that why does this have jpeg, png, tiff
> support if it's in console mode?
No, that's not silly.
> Will "links" actually SHOW an image?
Yes, it will.
> I've
> NEVER seen it do that (on any other linux box, even with X support)
Fine - so, what?
Alexander Skwar
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Why is portage trying to pull in xorg when I don't use it...
2006-03-29 23:59 ` Bo Andresen
@ 2006-03-30 5:34 ` Alexander Skwar
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From: Alexander Skwar @ 2006-03-30 5:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Bo Andresen wrote:
> Seems you have fileutils, textutils and sh-utils in your world file though
> they are not part of portage. Are you using them?
They are obsolated by coreutils. So:
> If you don't then perhaps
> unmerge them..
That's the solution.
Alexander Skwar
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