[gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Teresa and Dale]

Hi,

I upgraded gcc a while back.  I thought I read somewhere that it is best
to just upgrade on occasion with the major upgrades.  Should this be
upgraded or should I mask it?  This is what I get:

> root@smoker / # emerge -up world
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r1 [1.3.12-r6]
> [ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 [3.4.5]
> [ebuild     U ] app-office/scribus-1.3.3 [1.3.2-r1]
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.61-r1 [0.61]
> root@smoker / #   


I really don't want to do a emerge -e world or rebuild a lot right now. 
I am glad to see the new Scribus though.  ;-)

Thanks

Dale
:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:06:54 -0600, Teresa and Dale wrote:

> I upgraded gcc a while back.  I thought I read somewhere that it is best
> to just upgrade on occasion with the major upgrades.  Should this be
> upgraded or should I mask it?  This is what I get:
> 
> > root@smoker / # emerge -up world
> >
> > These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> > Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> > [ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r1 [1.3.12-r6]
> > [ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 [3.4.5]

Read the changelog and decide for yourself.
"emerge --changelog gcc" will show you the changes and the reason for
the upgrade.

> I really don't want to do a emerge -e world or rebuild a lot right now. 
> I am glad to see the new Scribus though.  ;-)

You don't have to do an emerge -e- world for a minor update to GCC. Maybe
when you go from 3.3 to 3.4, or 3.4 to 4.0, but not for this.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Tuesday 28 March 2006 08:06, Teresa and Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I upgraded gcc a while back.  I thought I read somewhere that it is best
> to just upgrade on occasion with the major upgrades.  Should this be
>
> upgraded or should I mask it?  This is what I get:
> > root@smoker / # emerge -up world
> >
> > These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> > Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> > [ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r1 [1.3.12-r6]
> > [ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 [3.4.5]
> > [ebuild     U ] app-office/scribus-1.3.3 [1.3.2-r1]
> > [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.61-r1 [0.61]
> > root@smoker / #
>
> I really don't want to do a emerge -e world or rebuild a lot right now.
> I am glad to see the new Scribus though.  ;-)
>

you don't have to.

As long as you are not updating to gcc4 you never need to make an emerge -e 
world. Not because of gcc updates and never because of glibc updates.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Teresa and Dale]

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

>On Tuesday 28 March 2006 08:06, Teresa and Dale wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I upgraded gcc a while back.  I thought I read somewhere that it is best
>>to just upgrade on occasion with the major upgrades.  Should this be
>>
>>upgraded or should I mask it?  This is what I get:
>>    
>>
>>>root@smoker / # emerge -up world
>>>
>>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>>
>>>Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>>>[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r1 [1.3.12-r6]
>>>[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 [3.4.5]
>>>[ebuild     U ] app-office/scribus-1.3.3 [1.3.2-r1]
>>>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.61-r1 [0.61]
>>>root@smoker / #
>>>      
>>>
>>I really don't want to do a emerge -e world or rebuild a lot right now.
>>I am glad to see the new Scribus though.  ;-)
>>
>>    
>>
>
>you don't have to.
>
>As long as you are not updating to gcc4 you never need to make an emerge -e 
>world. Not because of gcc updates and never because of glibc updates.
>  
>

Thanks to both.  I looked in my world file and I think I upgraded as a
oneshot so why is it upgradeing?  I did the -t option and nothing else
is coming up as pulling it in.  Strange.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:50:28 -0600, Teresa and Dale wrote:

> Thanks to both.  I looked in my world file and I think I upgraded as a
> oneshot so why is it upgradeing?  I did the -t option and nothing else
> is coming up as pulling it in.  Strange.

gcc is part of system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Teresa and Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:50:28 -0600, Teresa and Dale wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Thanks to both.  I looked in my world file and I think I upgraded as a
>>oneshot so why is it upgradeing?  I did the -t option and nothing else
>>is coming up as pulling it in.  Strange.
>>    
>>
>
>gcc is part of system.
>
>
>  
>
LOL  That would be a good reason huh?  Where is that file?  I'm not real
sure about upgrading this thing right now.  Oh, what the heck.  I'll
upgrade it anyway.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Ryan Tandy]

Teresa and Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>   
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:50:28 -0600, Teresa and Dale wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>     
>>> Thanks to both.  I looked in my world file and I think I upgraded as a
>>> oneshot so why is it upgradeing?  I did the -t option and nothing else
>>> is coming up as pulling it in.  Strange.
>>>    
>>>
>>>       
>> gcc is part of system.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>     
> LOL  That would be a good reason huh?  Where is that file?  I'm not real
> sure about upgrading this thing right now.  Oh, what the heck.  I'll
> upgrade it anyway.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dale
> :-)
>   
Assuming it's the gcc-3.4.5-r1 update you're considering postponing, you 
could just:

# echo '>sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5' >> /etc/portage/package.mask

and just remove that line when you're ready to upgrade.  It's a *far* 
better idea than trying to modify your profile.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Teresa and Dale]

Ryan Tandy wrote:

> Teresa and Dale wrote:
>
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>
>>> gcc is part of system.
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> LOL  That would be a good reason huh?  Where is that file?  I'm not real
>> sure about upgrading this thing right now.  Oh, what the heck.  I'll
>> upgrade it anyway.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dale
>> :-)
>>   
>
> Assuming it's the gcc-3.4.5-r1 update you're considering postponing,
> you could just:
>
> # echo '>sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5' >> /etc/portage/package.mask
>
> and just remove that line when you're ready to upgrade.  It's a *far*
> better idea than trying to modify your profile.

I was just going to mask it or upgrade by hand till I had time to mess
with it.  I got me a new girlfriend and she has two kids.  I go from
nobody to worry about but me to me and three other people to worry
about.  Just don't have as much time as I used to have.  One boy plays
baseball and the other does cub scouts.  :/

I'll get around to it eventually.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Wednesday 29 March 2006 07:10, Teresa and Dale wrote:

>
> I was just going to mask it or upgrade by hand till I had time to mess
> with it.  I got me a new girlfriend and she has two kids.  I go from
> nobody to worry about but me to me and three other people to worry
> about.  Just don't have as much time as I used to have.  One boy plays
> baseball and the other does cub scouts.  :/
>
> I'll get around to it eventually.
>
> Dale

emerge -u world

there is nothing to worry about. Or do you sit in front of your monitor and 
watch it compile?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:41:14 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote:

> Assuming it's the gcc-3.4.5-r1 update you're considering postponing,
> you could just:
> 
> # echo '>sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5' >> /etc/portage/package.mask
> 
> and just remove that line when you're ready to upgrade.  It's a *far* 
> better idea than trying to modify your profile.

echo '=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1' >> /etc/portage/package.mask is better if you only want to postpone this upgrade. Your suggestion blocks all future upgrades.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Nagatoro]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:41:14 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote:
> 
>> Assuming it's the gcc-3.4.5-r1 update you're considering postponing,
>> you could just:
>>
>> # echo '>sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5' >> /etc/portage/package.mask
>>
>> and just remove that line when you're ready to upgrade.  It's a *far* 
>> better idea than trying to modify your profile.
> 
> echo '=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1' >> /etc/portage/package.mask is better if you only want to postpone this upgrade. Your suggestion blocks all future upgrades.
> 
> 

Why don't upgrade? As far as I know upgrading gcc isn't a big deal. It
was just the 3.3.x -> 3.4.x that was due to that the api for c++ had
changed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Teresa and Dale]

Nagatoro wrote:

>Neil Bothwick wrote:
>  
>
>>On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:41:14 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Assuming it's the gcc-3.4.5-r1 update you're considering postponing,
>>>you could just:
>>>
>>># echo '>sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5' >> /etc/portage/package.mask
>>>
>>>and just remove that line when you're ready to upgrade.  It's a *far* 
>>>better idea than trying to modify your profile.
>>>      
>>>
>>echo '=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1' >> /etc/portage/package.mask is better if you only want to postpone this upgrade. Your suggestion blocks all future upgrades.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Why don't upgrade? As far as I know upgrading gcc isn't a big deal. It
>was just the 3.3.x -> 3.4.x that was due to that the api for c++ had
>changed.
>  
>

Oh, I thought it was a big deal.  That's why I was wanting to wait. 
Funny thing is, it don't want to upgrade now so maybe it had a bug and
they set it back again or something, or I just missed it and upgraded
anyway.  ;-)

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Holly Bostick]

Teresa and Dale schreef> Nagatoro wrote:
>>> 
>> Why don't upgrade? As far as I know upgrading gcc isn't a big deal.
>>  It was just the 3.3.x -> 3.4.x that was due to that the api for
>> c++ had changed.
> 
> Oh, I thought it was a big deal.  That's why I was wanting to wait. 
> Funny thing is, it don't want to upgrade now so maybe it had a bug 
> and they set it back again or something, or I just missed it and 
> upgraded anyway.  ;-)
> 
(other) Funny thing is, last I heard, you were planning to mask the
"upgrade" versions of GCC. If you did that, of /course/ you are no
longer offered upgrades, since that's the point of masking (to mark a
package as "unavailable to be installed on this computer").

gcc-3.4.5-r1 is the most recent stable; current unstable (~x86) is
3.4.6, 4.0 is masked (hard-masked), so you wouldn't see it anyway.

So I'm guessing you are running stable only, and masked the most recent
stable version explicitly (3.4.5-r1)? If you masked only that version in
/etc/portage/package.mask, like so

=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1

you won't see an offer to update until 3.4.6 goes stable; if you masked
all versions above your current version, as in

| > =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1

you won't see an offer to update ever, until you adjust the mask.
Although when 4.0 makes it into the tree, it might use a different slot,
so that might make you an offer.

But as far as I know, 3.4.5-r1 is still alive and kicking in the tree.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Teresa and Dale]

Holly Bostick wrote:

>
>>(other) Funny thing is, last I heard, you were planning to mask the
>>"upgrade" versions of GCC. If you did that, of /course/ you are no
>>longer offered upgrades, since that's the point of masking (to mark a
>>package as "unavailable to be installed on this computer").
>>
>>gcc-3.4.5-r1 is the most recent stable; current unstable (~x86) is
>>3.4.6, 4.0 is masked (hard-masked), so you wouldn't see it anyway.
>>
>>So I'm guessing you are running stable only, and masked the most recent
>>stable version explicitly (3.4.5-r1)? If you masked only that version in
>>/etc/portage/package.mask, like so
>>
>>=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1
>>
>>you won't see an offer to update until 3.4.6 goes stable; if you masked
>>all versions above your current version, as in
>>
>>| > =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1
>>
>>you won't see an offer to update ever, until you adjust the mask.
>>Although when 4.0 makes it into the tree, it might use a different slot,
>>so that might make you an offer.
>>
>>But as far as I know, 3.4.5-r1 is still alive and kicking in the tree.
>>
>>Holly
>>    
>>

Well, I didn't get around to changing anything in the mask file so
either it did it and I forgot it or some ghost came in and took care of
it for me.  ;-)  I guess since it was a minor update it won't matter anyway.

Nice to hear from you again though Holly.  Take Care.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade, should it upgrade?

[Keats]

Le mardi 28 mars 2006 à 20:41 -0800, Ryan Tandy a écrit :
> Teresa and Dale wrote:
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:50:28 -0600, Teresa and Dale wrote:
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Thanks to both.  I looked in my world file and I think I upgraded as a
> >>> oneshot so why is it upgradeing?  I did the -t option and nothing else
> >>> is coming up as pulling it in.  Strange.
> >>>    
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> gcc is part of system.
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>     
> > LOL  That would be a good reason huh?  Where is that file?  I'm not real
> > sure about upgrading this thing right now.  Oh, what the heck.  I'll
> > upgrade it anyway.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dale
> > :-)
> >   
> Assuming it's the gcc-3.4.5-r1 update you're considering postponing, you 
> could just:
> 
> # echo '>sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5' >> /etc/portage/package.mask
> 
> and just remove that line when you're ready to upgrade.  It's a *far* 
> better idea than trying to modify your profile.

upgrading from 3.4.5 to 3.4.5-r1 won't change the system 
so you will not have to rebuild anything :) 
it's an upgrade to gcc >= 4.0 that needs a emerge -e world 


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