[gentoo-user] Anyone run Gentoo on a Dell PowerEdge SC430?

[gentoo-user] Anyone run Gentoo on a Dell PowerEdge SC430?

[Jim Hatfield]

They are so, so cheap right now.

Dell UK has them at £199+VAT for the entry level configuration,
with free delivery to the end of the month. I'm tempted.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone run Gentoo on a Dell PowerEdge SC430?

[kashani]

Jim Hatfield wrote:
> They are so, so cheap right now.
> 
> Dell UK has them at £199+VAT for the entry level configuration,
> with free delivery to the end of the month. I'm tempted.
> 

I've got three of them running Gentoo in our dev environment. 2005.1 and 
2006.0 disks worked just fine and had no kernel or driver issues running 
them as servers without X.

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[gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

X are working fine, when i GDM and log into PC it stops on splashscreen,
no error messages, no nothing...
I am frustrated, i created new user, gave all permissions, didnt work
out, i deleted old config files from system, didnt help either, i am not
programmer, so i cant make much, anyone had this sort of problems
before?
gnome panel works ok, gnome-wm works too,  gnome-session shows mistakes,
but i am not sure its problem of gnome-session, i recompiled it anyway,
didnt help...

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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Benno Schulenberg]

Unknown wrote:
> X are working fine,

How do you know X is working fine?

> when i GDM

You mean when you start gdm?  How?  What command do you give?  What 
runlevel do you normally boot into?

> and log into PC

You must already be logged in to be able to give commands...

> it stops on splashscreen,

It's maybe waiting for something?  Is /home mounted?

> gnome-session shows mistakes,

What mistakes?

In short: too little info.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Also, please first learn how to use a mailing list: do not answer an 
existing post when starting a new discussion.  Start instead a new 
thread by clicking the mailing list's address.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:27 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Unknown wrote:
> > X are working fine,
> 
I use X right now, (i can xinit X windows to work or i can execute GDM,
chose "Custom session" which  is nearly same xinit, with some unknown
window manager, not gnome though)
> How do you know X is working fine?
> 
> > when i GDM
> 
> You mean when you start gdm?  How?  What command do you give?  What 
> runlevel do you normally boot into?
> 
I boot into normal mode(default one), get root access from console and
manually run "gdm", than log in using my current user(using custom
session, which is nearly same xinit by the way it looks), i did try root
and i did try to create new user and log in as user using "Gnome"
session - same story, nothing helped...
> > and log into PC
> 
> You must already be logged in to be able to give commands...
> 
> > it stops on splashscreen,
> 
> It's maybe waiting for something?  Is /home mounted?
> 
home is 100% mounted, and if i am not mistaking, wouldnt it say smth
like, "blah blah blah cant access configuration files from home
directory, so i am using defaults"?
however its not the case
> > gnome-session shows mistakes,
> 
right now it showed smth like: "gnomeui-warning": while connecting
manager: authentication rejected, reason : none of the authentication
protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
SESSION_MANAGER=local/drjoms:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6217
> What mistakes?
mistakes may warry, but "SESSEION_MANAGER=... BLAH BLAH BLAH" is more or
less same, with exception of number(perhaps some sort of process id
number? i cant find it using pstree -p|grep $PROCESS_NUMBER)
> 
> In short: too little info.
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
ok, i agree i am inexpirienced, but it looks a bit like an insult to me,
cause even though i am nooby and i didnt read rules properly and used
plain intuition, i did follow rules, i did try to locate smth on google,
i cant ask more experienced friend, cause i live in country where
ammount of people using hi speed internet is going down, no need to
explain futher, i did try to find an answere on forums, i did try irc(i
live in there, in #gentoo and in #linux chnannels) and hell no i would
sign for smth up to find an answere if it wouldnt be that bad :(
And BTW, i was adviced to ask this question in here, in casewhat - it
wasnt my decision, just i am a person who needs a help, if you can help
= please do so, critics wont help me much...
> Also, please first learn how to use a mailing list: do not answer an 
> existing post when starting a new discussion.  Start instead a new 
> thread by clicking the mailing list's address.
> 
thats a good idea, i shall do that, in fact, right now
> Benno
thank you for answering

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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Nick Rout]

follow the instructions which are to start X with


/etc/init.d/xdm start

then report back


On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:03:54 +0000
Unknown wrote:

> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:27 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Unknown wrote:
> > > X are working fine,
> > 
> I use X right now, (i can xinit X windows to work or i can execute GDM,
> chose "Custom session" which  is nearly same xinit, with some unknown
> window manager, not gnome though)
> > How do you know X is working fine?
> > 
> > > when i GDM
> > 
> > You mean when you start gdm?  How?  What command do you give?  What 
> > runlevel do you normally boot into?
> > 
> I boot into normal mode(default one), get root access from console and
> manually run "gdm", than log in using my current user(using custom
> session, which is nearly same xinit by the way it looks), i did try root
> and i did try to create new user and log in as user using "Gnome"
> session - same story, nothing helped...
> > > and log into PC
> > 
> > You must already be logged in to be able to give commands...
> > 
> > > it stops on splashscreen,
> > 
> > It's maybe waiting for something?  Is /home mounted?
> > 
> home is 100% mounted, and if i am not mistaking, wouldnt it say smth
> like, "blah blah blah cant access configuration files from home
> directory, so i am using defaults"?
> however its not the case
> > > gnome-session shows mistakes,
> > 
> right now it showed smth like: "gnomeui-warning": while connecting
> manager: authentication rejected, reason : none of the authentication
> protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
> SESSION_MANAGER=local/drjoms:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6217
> > What mistakes?
> mistakes may warry, but "SESSEION_MANAGER=... BLAH BLAH BLAH" is more or
> less same, with exception of number(perhaps some sort of process id
> number? i cant find it using pstree -p|grep $PROCESS_NUMBER)
> > 
> > In short: too little info.
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > 
> ok, i agree i am inexpirienced, but it looks a bit like an insult to me,
> cause even though i am nooby and i didnt read rules properly and used
> plain intuition, i did follow rules, i did try to locate smth on google,
> i cant ask more experienced friend, cause i live in country where
> ammount of people using hi speed internet is going down, no need to
> explain futher, i did try to find an answere on forums, i did try irc(i
> live in there, in #gentoo and in #linux chnannels) and hell no i would
> sign for smth up to find an answere if it wouldnt be that bad :(
> And BTW, i was adviced to ask this question in here, in casewhat - it
> wasnt my decision, just i am a person who needs a help, if you can help
> = please do so, critics wont help me much...
> > Also, please first learn how to use a mailing list: do not answer an 
> > existing post when starting a new discussion.  Start instead a new 
> > thread by clicking the mailing list's address.
> > 
> thats a good idea, i shall do that, in fact, right now
> > Benno
> thank you for answering
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 12:17 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> follow the instructions which are to start X with
> 
> 
> /etc/init.d/xdm start
> 
> then report back
> 
You are gonna laugh, out put of "/etc/init.d/xdm start" was - "starting
GDM", well probably i did a stupid thing somewhere letting gdm coming
over XDM but, i didnt do that on purpose - first, second i am using
"pure" X right now by executing xinit, .xinitrc file has only "xterm" i
have feeling it can help somehow...
Do you want me to change topic somehow?
> 
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:03:54 +0000
> Unknown wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:27 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > > Unknown wrote:
> > > > X are working fine,
> > > 
> > I use X right now, (i can xinit X windows to work or i can execute GDM,
> > chose "Custom session" which  is nearly same xinit, with some unknown
> > window manager, not gnome though)
> > > How do you know X is working fine?
> > > 
> > > > when i GDM
> > > 
> > > You mean when you start gdm?  How?  What command do you give?  What 
> > > runlevel do you normally boot into?
> > > 
> > I boot into normal mode(default one), get root access from console and
> > manually run "gdm", than log in using my current user(using custom
> > session, which is nearly same xinit by the way it looks), i did try root
> > and i did try to create new user and log in as user using "Gnome"
> > session - same story, nothing helped...
> > > > and log into PC
> > > 
> > > You must already be logged in to be able to give commands...
> > > 
> > > > it stops on splashscreen,
> > > 
> > > It's maybe waiting for something?  Is /home mounted?
> > > 
> > home is 100% mounted, and if i am not mistaking, wouldnt it say smth
> > like, "blah blah blah cant access configuration files from home
> > directory, so i am using defaults"?
> > however its not the case
> > > > gnome-session shows mistakes,
> > > 
> > right now it showed smth like: "gnomeui-warning": while connecting
> > manager: authentication rejected, reason : none of the authentication
> > protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
> > SESSION_MANAGER=local/drjoms:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6217
> > > What mistakes?
> > mistakes may warry, but "SESSEION_MANAGER=... BLAH BLAH BLAH" is more or
> > less same, with exception of number(perhaps some sort of process id
> > number? i cant find it using pstree -p|grep $PROCESS_NUMBER)
> > > 
> > > In short: too little info.
> > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > > 
> > ok, i agree i am inexpirienced, but it looks a bit like an insult to me,
> > cause even though i am nooby and i didnt read rules properly and used
> > plain intuition, i did follow rules, i did try to locate smth on google,
> > i cant ask more experienced friend, cause i live in country where
> > ammount of people using hi speed internet is going down, no need to
> > explain futher, i did try to find an answere on forums, i did try irc(i
> > live in there, in #gentoo and in #linux chnannels) and hell no i would
> > sign for smth up to find an answere if it wouldnt be that bad :(
> > And BTW, i was adviced to ask this question in here, in casewhat - it
> > wasnt my decision, just i am a person who needs a help, if you can help
> > = please do so, critics wont help me much...
> > > Also, please first learn how to use a mailing list: do not answer an 
> > > existing post when starting a new discussion.  Start instead a new 
> > > thread by clicking the mailing list's address.
> > > 
> > thats a good idea, i shall do that, in fact, right now
> > > Benno
> > thank you for answering
> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:57:13 +0000
Unknown wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 12:17 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > follow the instructions which are to start X with
> > 
> > 
> > /etc/init.d/xdm start
> > 
> > then report back
> > 
> You are gonna laugh, out put of "/etc/init.d/xdm start" was - "starting
> GDM", well probably i did a stupid thing somewhere letting gdm coming
> over XDM but, i didnt do that on purpose - first, second i am using
> "pure" X right now by executing xinit, .xinitrc file has only "xterm" i
> have feeling it can help somehow...
> Do you want me to change topic somehow?


/etc/init.d/xdm is the gentoo init script for X. It does NOT necessarily start xdm, it starts what you have specified in $DISPLAYMANAGER, which
is set in /etc/rc.conf

Therefore gdm starting is probably the correct result fo rrunning
/etc/init.d/xdm start

OK so once you have started gdm in the correct manner, does it work?


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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:35 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:57:13 +0000
> Unknown wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 12:17 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > follow the instructions which are to start X with
> > > 
> > > 
> > > /etc/init.d/xdm start
> > > 
> > > then report back
> > > 
> > You are gonna laugh, out put of "/etc/init.d/xdm start" was - "starting
> > GDM", well probably i did a stupid thing somewhere letting gdm coming
> > over XDM but, i didnt do that on purpose - first, second i am using
> > "pure" X right now by executing xinit, .xinitrc file has only "xterm" i
> > have feeling it can help somehow...
> > Do you want me to change topic somehow?
> 
> 
> /etc/init.d/xdm is the gentoo init script for X. It does NOT necessarily start xdm, it starts what you have specified in $DISPLAYMANAGER, which
> is set in /etc/rc.conf
> 
> Therefore gdm starting is probably the correct result fo rrunning
> /etc/init.d/xdm start
> 
> OK so once you have started gdm in the correct manner, does it work?
> 
> 
it does, it asks me for user and password, and if i set those 2 correct
and mention that i need "gnome session" - than problems happen.
Gnome is started, i can see gentoo splash screen and thats the place
where it hangs...
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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:45:33 +0000
Unknown wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:35 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:57:13 +0000
> > Unknown wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 12:17 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > > follow the instructions which are to start X with
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > /etc/init.d/xdm start
> > > > 
> > > > then report back
> > > > 
> > > You are gonna laugh, out put of "/etc/init.d/xdm start" was - "starting
> > > GDM", well probably i did a stupid thing somewhere letting gdm coming
> > > over XDM but, i didnt do that on purpose - first, second i am using
> > > "pure" X right now by executing xinit, .xinitrc file has only "xterm" i
> > > have feeling it can help somehow...
> > > Do you want me to change topic somehow?
> > 
> > 
> > /etc/init.d/xdm is the gentoo init script for X. It does NOT necessarily start xdm, it starts what you have specified in $DISPLAYMANAGER, which
> > is set in /etc/rc.conf
> > 
> > Therefore gdm starting is probably the correct result fo rrunning
> > /etc/init.d/xdm start
> > 
> > OK so once you have started gdm in the correct manner, does it work?
> > 
> > 
> it does, it asks me for user and password, and if i set those 2 correct
> and mention that i need "gnome session" - than problems happen.
> Gnome is started, i can see gentoo splash screen and thats the place
> where it hangs...
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> > Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz>

OK like another poster I suspect name resolution. He asked you what the
hostname is, you didn't directly answer.

what answer does the "hostname" command give?

gnome is fussy about being able to resolve and reverse resolve your
computer




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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:59 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:45:33 +0000
> Unknown wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:35 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:57:13 +0000
> > > Unknown wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 12:17 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > > > follow the instructions which are to start X with
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > /etc/init.d/xdm start
> > > > > 
> > > > > then report back
> > > > > 
> > > > You are gonna laugh, out put of "/etc/init.d/xdm start" was - "starting
> > > > GDM", well probably i did a stupid thing somewhere letting gdm coming
> > > > over XDM but, i didnt do that on purpose - first, second i am using
> > > > "pure" X right now by executing xinit, .xinitrc file has only "xterm" i
> > > > have feeling it can help somehow...
> > > > Do you want me to change topic somehow?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > /etc/init.d/xdm is the gentoo init script for X. It does NOT necessarily start xdm, it starts what you have specified in $DISPLAYMANAGER, which
> > > is set in /etc/rc.conf
> > > 
> > > Therefore gdm starting is probably the correct result fo rrunning
> > > /etc/init.d/xdm start
> > > 
> > > OK so once you have started gdm in the correct manner, does it work?
> > > 
> > > 
> > it does, it asks me for user and password, and if i set those 2 correct
> > and mention that i need "gnome session" - than problems happen.
> > Gnome is started, i can see gentoo splash screen and thats the place
> > where it hangs...
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> > > Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz>
> 
> OK like another poster I suspect name resolution. He asked you what the
> hostname is, you didn't directly answer.
> 
> what answer does the "hostname" command give?
> 
> gnome is fussy about being able to resolve and reverse resolve your
> computer
> 
hostname
drjoms
> 
> 
> 
> > > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:09:01 +0000
Unknown wrote:


> > OK like another poster I suspect name resolution. He asked you what the
> > hostname is, you didn't directly answer.
> > 
> > what answer does the "hostname" command give?
> > 
> > gnome is fussy about being able to resolve and reverse resolve your
> > computer
> > 
> hostname
> drjoms

have you started net.lo?

find out by 

/etc/init.d/net.lo status

if it isn't going do :

/etc/init.d/net.lo start

Nick (running out of ideas)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 14:46 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:09:01 +0000
> Unknown wrote:
> 
> 
> > > OK like another poster I suspect name resolution. He asked you what the
> > > hostname is, you didn't directly answer.
> > > 
> > > what answer does the "hostname" command give?
> > > 
> > > gnome is fussy about being able to resolve and reverse resolve your
> > > computer
> > > 
> > hostname
> > drjoms
> 
> have you started net.lo?
> 
> find out by 
> 
> /etc/init.d/net.lo status
> 
> if it isn't going do :
> 
> /etc/init.d/net.lo start
> 
ip link, shows that lo interface is there
> Nick (running out of ideas)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > 
> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:36:12 +0000
Unknown <drjoms@gmail.com> wrote:

> > /etc/init.d/net.lo start
> > 
> ip link, shows that lo interface is there
> > Nick (running out of ideas)


OK.

does this happen for all users? or just you? (don't come back and say
you only have one user. if that is so make another one and see what
happens. adduser makes a new user at the command line, but I find
superadduser so much better, and it is only a short emerge away.)
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SOLVED: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 10:47 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:36:12 +0000
> Unknown <drjoms@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > /etc/init.d/net.lo start
> > > 
> > ip link, shows that lo interface is there
> > > Nick (running out of ideas)
> 
> 
> OK.
> 
> does this happen for all users? or just you? (don't come back and say
> you only have one user. if that is so make another one and see what
> happens. adduser makes a new user at the command line, but I find
> superadduser so much better, and it is only a short emerge away.)

Thanks for support guys, somehow famd wasnt allright, i installed gamin,
seems to be working for now... :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[James Ausmus]

On 3/15/06, Unknown <drjoms@gmail.com> wrote:
> X are working fine, when i GDM and log into PC it stops on splashscreen,
> no error messages, no nothing...
> I am frustrated, i created new user, gave all permissions, didnt work
> out, i deleted old config files from system, didnt help either, i am not
> programmer, so i cant make much, anyone had this sort of problems
> before?
> gnome panel works ok, gnome-wm works too,  gnome-session shows mistakes,
> but i am not sure its problem of gnome-session, i recompiled it anyway,
> didnt help...
>

What is the hostname of the computer set to? Is it pingable? Is
localhost pingable?

-James



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Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?

[Unknown]

On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 16:30 -0800, James Ausmus wrote:
> On 3/15/06, Unknown <drjoms@gmail.com> wrote:
> > X are working fine, when i GDM and log into PC it stops on splashscreen,
> > no error messages, no nothing...
> > I am frustrated, i created new user, gave all permissions, didnt work
> > out, i deleted old config files from system, didnt help either, i am not
> > programmer, so i cant make much, anyone had this sort of problems
> > before?
> > gnome panel works ok, gnome-wm works too,  gnome-session shows mistakes,
> > but i am not sure its problem of gnome-session, i recompiled it anyway,
> > didnt help...
> >
> 
> What is the hostname of the computer set to? Is it pingable? Is
> localhost pingable?
> 
> -James
> 
Yes, both drjoms(computername) and localhost are clearly pingable
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone run Gentoo on a Dell PowerEdge SC430?

[Jim Hatfield]

kashani wrote:
> Jim Hatfield wrote:
>> They are so, so cheap right now.
>>
>> Dell UK has them at £199+VAT for the entry level configuration,
>> with free delivery to the end of the month. I'm tempted.
>>
> 
> I've got three of them running Gentoo in our dev environment. 2005.1 and 
> 2006.0 disks worked just fine and had no kernel or driver issues running 
> them as servers without X.

Thanks. I can feel my credit card itching already...
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