[gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[jerry]

I did an emerge sync a few days ago. If I run emerge -s gentoo- sources 
I get:

sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
      Latest version available: 2.4.31-r1
      Latest version installed: 2.6.14-r2
      Size of downloaded files: 31,219 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
      Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 
2.4 kernel tree
      License:     GPL-2

sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
      Latest version available: 2.6.15.1
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 38,905 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org
      Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
      License:     GPL-2

Do I have to switch to vanilla-sources now to get the latest kernel? 
Won't I lose some newer features if I use 2.4.31-r1?

If I understand the above output correctly I have already installed the 
gentoo-sources kernel, but now they have moved back to the 2.4 series. 
Where can I find out what is going on?

Thanks for any clarification.

Jerry

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Ghaith Hachem]

http://www.gentoo-portage.com/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
this page shows that the 2.6.15-r1 is availiable for x86 and amd64

gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1
~alpha amd64 arm ppc ppc64 ~sparc x86

check if the 2.6 kernel is masked.. maybe sync again
though it's weird that all the other versions are masked .. why is
that? even the 2.6.14
On 3/8/06, jerry <jturba@nethere.com> wrote:
> I did an emerge sync a few days ago. If I run emerge -s gentoo- sources
> I get:
>
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.31-r1
>       Latest version installed: 2.6.14-r2
>       Size of downloaded files: 31,219 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the
> 2.4 kernel tree
>       License:     GPL-2
>
> sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.6.15.1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 38,905 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org
>       Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
>       License:     GPL-2
>
> Do I have to switch to vanilla-sources now to get the latest kernel?
> Won't I lose some newer features if I use 2.4.31-r1?
>
> If I understand the above output correctly I have already installed the
> gentoo-sources kernel, but now they have moved back to the 2.4 series.
> Where can I find out what is going on?
>
> Thanks for any clarification.
>
> Jerry
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 3/8/06, jerry <jturba@nethere.com> wrote:
> I did an emerge sync a few days ago. If I run emerge -s gentoo- sources
> I get:
>
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.31-r1
>       Latest version installed: 2.6.14-r2
>       Size of downloaded files: 31,219 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the
> 2.4 kernel tree
>       License:     GPL-2
>
> sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.6.15.1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 38,905 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org
>       Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
>       License:     GPL-2
>
> Do I have to switch to vanilla-sources now to get the latest kernel?
> Won't I lose some newer features if I use 2.4.31-r1?
>
> If I understand the above output correctly I have already installed the
> gentoo-sources kernel, but now they have moved back to the 2.4 series.
> Where can I find out what is going on?
>

Katana katana # emerge -s gentoo-sources
Searching...
[ Results for search key : gentoo-sources ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
      Latest version available: 2.6.15-r1
      Latest version installed: 2.6.15-r1
      Size of downloaded files: 39,086 kB
      Homepage:    http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/genpatches
      Description: Full sources including the gentoo patchset for the
2.6 kernel tree
      License:     GPL-2

Something wrong with your search... Maybe a wrong sync? Try sync'ng again.

> Thanks for any clarification.
>
> Jerry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[jerry]

Daniel da Veiga wrote:

>On 3/8/06, jerry <jturba@nethere.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>I did an emerge sync a few days ago. If I run emerge -s gentoo- sources
>>I get:
>>
>>sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>>      Latest version available: 2.4.31-r1
>>      Latest version installed: 2.6.14-r2
>>      Size of downloaded files: 31,219 kB
>>      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>>      Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the
>>2.4 kernel tree
>>      License:     GPL-2
>>
>>sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
>>      Latest version available: 2.6.15.1
>>      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>>      Size of downloaded files: 38,905 kB
>>      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org
>>      Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
>>      License:     GPL-2
>>
>>Do I have to switch to vanilla-sources now to get the latest kernel?
>>Won't I lose some newer features if I use 2.4.31-r1?
>>
>>If I understand the above output correctly I have already installed the
>>gentoo-sources kernel, but now they have moved back to the 2.4 series.
>>Where can I find out what is going on?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Katana katana # emerge -s gentoo-sources
>Searching...
>[ Results for search key : gentoo-sources ]
>[ Applications found : 1 ]
>
>*  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>      Latest version available: 2.6.15-r1
>      Latest version installed: 2.6.15-r1
>      Size of downloaded files: 39,086 kB
>      Homepage:    http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/genpatches
>      Description: Full sources including the gentoo patchset for the
>2.6 kernel tree
>      License:     GPL-2
>
>Something wrong with your search... Maybe a wrong sync? Try sync'ng again.
>
>  
>
THanks for the quick reply. I did another emerge --sync and

root@backup:/home/jerry  # emerge -s gentoo-sources
Searching...
[ Results for search key : gentoo-sources ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
      Latest version available: 2.4.31-r1
      Latest version installed: 2.6.14-r2
      Size of downloaded files: 31,219 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
      Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 
2.4 kernel tree
      License:     GPL-2


While waiting for emerge --sync to finish I searched some forums for 
some ideas.

I have not upgraded from gcc-3.3.6 to 3.4.5. Could this cause the problem?

Jerry

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Willie Wong]

On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:30:26AM -0800, Penguin Lover jerry squawked:
> THanks for the quick reply. I did another emerge --sync and
> 
> root@backup:/home/jerry  # emerge -s gentoo-sources
> Searching...
> [ Results for search key : gentoo-sources ]
> [ Applications found : 1 ]
> 
> *  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>      Latest version available: 2.4.31-r1
>      Latest version installed: 2.6.14-r2
>      Size of downloaded files: 31,219 kB
>      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>      Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 
> 2.4 kernel tree
>      License:     GPL-2
> 
> 
> While waiting for emerge --sync to finish I searched some forums for 
> some ideas.
> 

Do you have gentoolkit installed? If so, run

# equery list -p gentoo-sources

It'd be good to know if you are missing the ebuild or if it is masked
somehow. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Jerry Turba]

Willie Wong wrote:

>Do you have gentoolkit installed? If so, run
>
># equery list -p gentoo-sources
>
>It'd be good to know if you are missing the ebuild or if it is masked
>somehow. 
>
>W
>  
>
Results of equery:
backup:~ $ equery list -p gentoo-sources
[ Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
 [I--] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1 (2.4.31-r1)
 [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r3 (2.6.11-r3)
 [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r9 (2.6.12-r9)
 [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 (2.6.12-r10)
 [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r2 (2.6.14-r2)
  * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
  [-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2 (2.4.32-r2)
  [-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7 (2.6.14-r7)
  [-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15 (2.6.15)

I do have gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 installed and running. I never had a 
2.4 kernel installed on this system.
Thanks for your help.
Jerry

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Holly Bostick]

Jerry Turba schreef:
> Willie Wong wrote:
> 
>> Do you have gentoolkit installed? If so, run
>> 
>> # equery list -p gentoo-sources
>> 
>> 
> Results of equery: backup:~ $ equery list -p gentoo-sources [ 
> Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among: ] * 
> installed packages
> 
> [I--] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1 (2.4.31-r1)
> [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r3 (2.6.11-r3)
> [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r9 (2.6.12-r9)
> [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 (2.6.12-r10)
> [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r2 (2.6.14-r2)
> 
> * Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [M~]
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2 (2.4.32-r2)
> [-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7 (2.6.14-r7)
> [-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15 (2.6.15)

> I do have gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 installed and running. I never 
> had a 2.4 kernel installed on this system. Thanks for your help. 
> 
 Myself, I'm starting to wonder if this isn't a mirror issue (what
mirror are you sync-ing with? Check /etc/make.conf), because mine looks
like this:

 equery list -p gentoo-sources
[ Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r5 (2.6.15-r5)
[I--] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r6 (2.6.15-r6)
[I--] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7 (2.6.15-r7)
 * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
[-P-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1 (2.4.31-r1)
[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2 (2.4.32-r2)
[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7 (2.6.14-r7)
[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15 (2.6.15)
[-P-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1 (2.6.15-r1)
[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r2 (2.6.15-r2)
[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r3 (2.6.15-r3)
[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r4 (2.6.15-r4)

If you've synced twice already, and you're still getting such old
packages (2.6.*11*??), there's gotta be something wrong with your mirror
or your cache, it seems to me. Cache I don't know how to fix, but
changing mirrors is an easy way to fix the problem or eliminate one
possible vector of trouble (if nothing changs, then we know the problem
is something else, and there aren't too many things it could be, at that
point).

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Willie Wong]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:36:33PM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked:
> Jerry Turba schreef:
> > Results of equery: backup:~ $ equery list -p gentoo-sources [ 
> > Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among: ] * 
> > installed packages
> > 
> > [I--] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1 (2.4.31-r1)
> > [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r3 (2.6.11-r3)
> > [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r9 (2.6.12-r9)
> > [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 (2.6.12-r10)
> > [I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r2 (2.6.14-r2)
> > 
> > * Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [M~]
> > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2 (2.4.32-r2)
> > [-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7 (2.6.14-r7)
> > [-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15 (2.6.15)
> 
>  Myself, I'm starting to wonder if this isn't a mirror issue (what
> mirror are you sync-ing with? Check /etc/make.conf), because mine looks

I tend to agree with Holly here. Your tree looks old. What do you have
for the SYNC variable in /etc/make.conf ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Andrei Slavoiu]

--- jerry <jturba@nethere.com> wrote:
> I did an emerge sync a few days ago. If I run emerge
> -s gentoo- sources 
> I get:
> 
> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.31-r1
>       Latest version installed: 2.6.14-r2
>       Size of downloaded files: 31,219 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/
> http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources including the Gentoo
> patchset for the 
> 2.4 kernel tree
>       License:     GPL-2
> 
> sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.6.15.1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 38,905 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org
>       Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
>       License:     GPL-2
> 
> Do I have to switch to vanilla-sources now to get
> the latest kernel? 
> Won't I lose some newer features if I use 2.4.31-r1?
> 
> If I understand the above output correctly I have
> already installed the 
> gentoo-sources kernel, but now they have moved back
> to the 2.4 series. 
> Where can I find out what is going on?
> 
> Thanks for any clarification.
It looks like you are using a very old profile. Make
sure /etc/make.profile points to a recent profile (for
the x86 architecture that would be
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0)
See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[jerry]

Holly Bostick wrote:

>Jerry Turba schreef:
>  
>
>>Willie Wong wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Do you have gentoolkit installed? If so, run
>>>
>>># equery list -p gentoo-sources
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Results of equery: backup:~ $ equery list -p gentoo-sources [ 
>>Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among: ] * 
>>installed packages
>>
>>[I--] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1 (2.4.31-r1)
>>[I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r3 (2.6.11-r3)
>>[I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r9 (2.6.12-r9)
>>[I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 (2.6.12-r10)
>>[I--] [M ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r2 (2.6.14-r2)
>>
>>* Portage tree (/usr/portage) [-P-] [M~]
>>sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2 (2.4.32-r2)
>>[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7 (2.6.14-r7)
>>[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15 (2.6.15)
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>I do have gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 installed and running. I never 
>>had a 2.4 kernel installed on this system. Thanks for your help. 
>>
>>    
>>
> Myself, I'm starting to wonder if this isn't a mirror issue (what
>mirror are you sync-ing with? Check /etc/make.conf), because mine looks
>like this:
>
> equery list -p gentoo-sources
>[ Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among: ]
> * installed packages
>[I--] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r5 (2.6.15-r5)
>[I--] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r6 (2.6.15-r6)
>[I--] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7 (2.6.15-r7)
> * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
>[-P-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1 (2.4.31-r1)
>[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2 (2.4.32-r2)
>[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7 (2.6.14-r7)
>[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15 (2.6.15)
>[-P-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1 (2.6.15-r1)
>[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r2 (2.6.15-r2)
>[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r3 (2.6.15-r3)
>[-P-] [ ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r4 (2.6.15-r4)
>
>If you've synced twice already, and you're still getting such old
>packages (2.6.*11*??), there's gotta be something wrong with your mirror
>or your cache, it seems to me. Cache I don't know how to fix, but
>changing mirrors is an easy way to fix the problem or eliminate one
>possible vector of trouble (if nothing changs, then we know the problem
>is something else, and there aren't too many things it could be, at that
>point).
>
>HTH,
>Holly
>  
>
Here is /etc/make.conf:

 These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically 
built this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ 
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo http://gentoo.
seren.com/gentoo"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="hal -emboss doc -bidi -ipv6 mmx -nls sse -gnome -berkdb \
     kdeenablefinal kdexdeltas bitmap-fonts truetype-fonts type1-fonts"
ALSA_CARDS="via82xx"
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
CCACHE_SIZE="2G"
FEATURES="ccache"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/init.d


I am new to and learning how gnetoo works, but I don't quite follow your 
line of thought; I download packages from osuosl.org (oregon state?) but 
when I sync I seem to hit a random server somewhere. Last time I synced 
it was in Milwaukee,Wisc.


Andrei:
Here is /etc/make.profile:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    48 Aug 30  2005 make.profile -> 
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0

This is the profile I used when I first did the install and I don't 
remember ever making any change to it. I am on my way now to read the 
doc you suggested.

I have the uninformed naging thought that I am having this problem 
because I have not upgraded gcc from 3.3.6. I posted this thought 
earlier but no one commented on its likelihood.

Thanks to everyone for responding.

Jerry


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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Holly Bostick]

jerry schreef:
> Holly Bostick wrote:
>>> 
>> Myself, I'm starting to wonder if this isn't a mirror issue (what 
>> mirror are you sync-ing with
>> 
>> If you've synced twice already, and you're still getting such old 
>> packages (2.6.*11*??), there's gotta be something wrong with your 
>> mirror or your cache, it seems to me.
>> 
>> 
> Here is /etc/make.conf:
> 
> These settings were set by the catalyst build script that 
> automatically built this stage # Please consult 
> /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example CFLAGS="-O2 
> -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
>  CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> 
> GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ 
> http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo http://gentoo. seren.com/gentoo" 
> SYNC="rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
<snip>
> 
> 
> I am new to and learning how gnetoo works, but I don't quite follow 
> your line of thought; I download packages from osuosl.org (oregon 
> state?) but when I sync I seem to hit a random server somewhere. Last
>  time I synced it was in Milwaukee,Wisc.

Yes, that's correct. Syncing with the Portage tree (that's the "SYNC"
setting, above) is a different operation than downloading packages (from
the "GENTOO_MIRRORS" setting above).

You sync your Portage tree from a pool of Portage servers on your
continent. Which server is chosen is random; this decreases the load on
the individual members of the server group.

I take it you're in the U.S., so you're syncing with the US pool; I'm in
The Netherlands, so my SYNC variable looks like this:

SYNC="rsync://rsync.nl.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"

When I emerge --sync, I connect to one of the various Gentoo rsync
servers in this country randomly.

However, whenever I download tarballs, they come from one of these servers:

GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo
http://gentoo.osuosl.org"

And if the file is not found on any of them, the ebuild will usually
direct Portage to attempt to download directly from the homepage of the
project or Sourceforge, whichever is applicable.

This is all as it should be.

In any case, the problem I was trying to track is whether the reason
your local Portage tree was not current, even though you've synced,
might not be because the remote Portage tree you were syncing with was
not current (it can happen; servers change or are not often updated, and
if your profile was very old, you might be using an old server that
wasn't in sync with the times).

However, it's hard to imagine that the US pool might not be current.

[General question] What else might prevent a sync from actually updating
the local tree correctly?

Ummmm.... unless it actually has, and the problem is Portage not knowing
it somehow....

Would you do an

ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/

and post the output?

I'm just wondering if the ebuilds are physically there or not.

> 
> I have the uninformed naging thought that I am having this problem 
> because I have not upgraded gcc from 3.3.6. I posted this thought 
> earlier but no one commented on its likelihood.
> 

I cannot imagine what gcc (your compiler) would have to do with the
contents of the Portage tree, or why you would think it did :-) .
Upgrading GCC or not doing so has nothing, as far as I know, to do with
rsync or the actual functionality of updating your Portage tree.
Certainly gcc
is not involved in any way in actually updating the Portage tree, which,
as far as we currently know (until you post the output of that ls,
anyway), is the issue at hand.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[jerry]

Holly Bostick wrote:

>
>In any case, the problem I was trying to track is whether the reason
>your local Portage tree was not current, even though you've synced,
>might not be because the remote Portage tree you were syncing with was
>not current (it can happen; servers change or are not often updated, and
>if your profile was very old, you might be using an old server that
>wasn't in sync with the times).
>
>However, it's hard to imagine that the US pool might not be current.
>
>[General question] What else might prevent a sync from actually updating
>the local tree correctly?
>
>Ummmm.... unless it actually has, and the problem is Portage not knowing
>it somehow....
>
>Would you do an
>
>ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/
>
>and post the output?
>
>I'm just wondering if the ebuilds are physically there or not.
>
>  
>
>>I have the uninformed naging thought that I am having this problem 
>>because I have not upgraded gcc from 3.3.6. I posted this thought 
>>earlier but no one commented on its likelihood.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I cannot imagine what gcc (your compiler) would have to do with the
>contents of the Portage tree, or why you would think it did :-) .
>Upgrading GCC or not doing so has nothing, as far as I know, to do with
>rsync or the actual functionality of updating your Portage tree.
>Certainly gcc
>is not involved in any way in actually updating the Portage tree, which,
>as far as we currently know (until you post the output of that ls,
>anyway), is the issue at hand.
>
>HTH,
>Holly
>  
>


backup jerry # ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/
ChangeLog                        gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r3.ebuild
Manifest                         gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r4.ebuild
files                            gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r5.ebuild
gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1.ebuild  gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r6.ebuild
gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2.ebuild  gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7.ebuild
gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7.ebuild  gentoo-sources-2.6.15.ebuild
gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1.ebuild  metadata.xml
gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r2.ebuild

I decided to go ahead and upgrade gcc-3.3.6 to 3.4.5. I am following the 
gentoo linux gcc upgrade guide carefully. I have already completed the 
emerge -e system, and will start emerge -e world.

backup jerry # equery -C l gcc
[ Searching for package 'gcc' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6 (3.3)
[I--] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r6 (0)

My gut says it is not right to have 2 versions of gcc installed.

backup jerry # emerge -pv gcc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5  (-altivec) -bootstrap 
-boundschecking -build +fortran -gcj +gtk -hardened -ip28 (-multilib) 
-multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -vanilla 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

Since I started to upgrade gcc that confuse the issue.

I read the doc suggested by Andrei 

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

I have not seen any warning from portage for the need to upgrade to  a newer profile, and have not seen and talk about it in the ng. I probably will do the upgrade to the newer profile after I finish the gcc upgrade.

Thanks for you help
Jerry

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[jerry]

Andrei Slavoiu wrote:

>It looks like you are using a very old profile. Make
>sure /etc/make.profile points to a recent profile (for
>the x86 architecture that would be
>/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0)
>See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
>
>  
>
You are right and I am using an old profile:
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    48 Aug 30  2005 make.profile -> 
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0

I read the doc you suggested. Either I completely missed/misunderstood 
the notice that was sent warning me to upgrade to a newer profile, or 
the warning may not have been sent because according to the 
gentoo-upgrading doc a new file should have been added to the 2005.0 
directory named "deprecated" ; the contents of which contain the name of 
the new profile to be used.

 There is a "deprecated" file in /usr/portage/profiles/obsolete/x86 that 
says 2004.3 is the upgraded profile.

I have run emerge -u portage and it says everything is fine.

The gentoo-upgrading doc does not indicate how to upgrade to the 2006.0 
profile. Is merely changing the symlink adequate as was done for 2005.0 
--> 2005.1?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Holly Bostick]

jerry schreef:
> Holly Bostick wrote:
> 
>> 
>> However, it's hard to imagine that the US pool might not be
>> current.
>> 
>> [General question] What else might prevent a sync from actually
>> updating the local tree correctly?
>> 
>> Ummmm.... unless it actually has, and the problem is Portage not
>> knowing it somehow....
>> 
>> Would you do an
>> 
>> ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/
>> 
>> and post the output?
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if the ebuilds are physically there or not.
>> 
> 
> backup jerry # ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/ ChangeLog
> gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r3.ebuild Manifest
> gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r4.ebuild files
> gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r5.ebuild gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1.ebuild
> gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r6.ebuild gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2.ebuild
> gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7.ebuild gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7.ebuild
> gentoo-sources-2.6.15.ebuild gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1.ebuild
> metadata.xml gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r2.ebuild
> 

Well, wouldja look at that!

So the ebuilds *are* there, but Portage is just not offering them.

Have you:

1) checked /etc/portage/package.mask (maybe you masked them and forgot)?

2) checked your Portage version (maybe you need an upgrade)?

3) tried emerging one of the invisible versions explicitly (emerge -av
=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7)? Even an error or failure might
tell us more about what's going on than we know now.

HTH; talk to you after the gcc upgrade is done.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Willie Wong]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 03:52:08PM -0800, Penguin Lover jerry squawked:
> Andrei Slavoiu wrote:
> 
> >It looks like you are using a very old profile. Make
> >sure /etc/make.profile points to a recent profile (for
> >the x86 architecture that would be
> >/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0)
> >See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
> >
> > 
> >
> You are right and I am using an old profile:
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    48 Aug 30  2005 make.profile -> 
> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0
> 

Hum, I have the same profile, and don't have your problem. 

[07:47 PM]wwong ~ $ ls -ld /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 46 Apr  2  2005 /etc/make.profile -> /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0
[07:47 PM]wwong ~ $ equery list -p gentoo-sources
[ Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
 * Portage tree (/home/portage)
[-P-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.31-r1 (2.4.31-r1)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.32-r2 (2.4.32-r2)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r7 (2.6.14-r7)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15 (2.6.15)
[-P-] [  ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1 (2.6.15-r1)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r2 (2.6.15-r2)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r3 (2.6.15-r3)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r4 (2.6.15-r4)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r5 (2.6.15-r5)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r6 (2.6.15-r6)
[-P-] [M~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r7 (2.6.15-r7)

And besides, if the profile is blocking the packages, wouldn't the
source still appear in equery but hard masked [M-]? 

It seems to me that portage is not picking up the changes made to your
tree. What happens if you run emerge --metadata?

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] Confused about latest gentoo-sources

[Willie Wong]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 03:24:16PM -0800, Penguin Lover jerry squawked:
> I decided to go ahead and upgrade gcc-3.3.6 to 3.4.5. I am following the 
> gentoo linux gcc upgrade guide carefully. I have already completed the 
> emerge -e system, and will start emerge -e world.
> 
> backup jerry # equery -C l gcc
> [ Searching for package 'gcc' in all categories among: ]
> * installed packages
> [I--] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6 (3.3)
> [I--] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5 (3.4)
> [I--] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r6 (0)
> 
> My gut says it is not right to have 2 versions of gcc installed.

It is perfectly fine. 

[08:00 PM]wwong profiles $ gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130-hardenednopie
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130-hardenednopiessp
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130-hardenednossp
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-20050130-vanilla
 [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 *
 [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
 [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
 [9] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp
 [10] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-vanilla

In fact, some pesty programs won't compile on the 3.4 branch (in my
case, wine compiled with 3.4.* would segfault on start, but runs fine
with 3.3.5). 

W
 
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