[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[Christoph Eckert]

Hi all,


I'm interested in buying an Intel Mac Mini.

Qestions:

* Will Gentoo run on it?

* If so: Which installer is the right one (sorry I'm not that familiar 
with processor hardware)?

* Can it dual boot with the installed Mac OS?


Thanks & best regards


ce
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[Rick van Hattem]

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On Friday 03 March 2006 20:05, Christoph Eckert wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> I'm interested in buying an Intel Mac Mini.
>
> Qestions:
>
> * Will Gentoo run on it?
>
> * If so: Which installer is the right one (sorry I'm not that familiar
> with processor hardware)?
>
> * Can it dual boot with the installed Mac OS?
>
>
> Thanks & best regards
>
>
> ce
Yes, Gentoo should run on it.
Use the plain x86 installer.

The only problem might be the new type of bios that is in the intel mac 
series, I'm not sure how well it is supported by linux.

I haven't seen any positive or negative messages about running linux on an 
intel mac so can't help you there.

And dual booting should be possible, it was always possible with the old 
apples.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[Christoph Eckert]

HI Rick,


> Yes, Gentoo should run on it.
> Use the plain x86 installer.

that's good news :) .

> The only problem might be the new type of bios that is in the intel
> mac series, I'm not sure how well it is supported by linux.
>
> I haven't seen any positive or negative messages about running linux
> on an intel mac so can't help you there.

I even wonder if all interfaces (USB, firewire, graphics) will work on 
the box.

> And dual booting should be possible, it was always possible with the
> old apples.

I hope Apple didn't do some magic to prevent installation of other OSes 
like Mac OS X.

Anyway, I guess I will give it a try.


Thanks & best regards


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[Antoine]

>>And dual booting should be possible, it was always possible with the
>>old apples.
> 
> 
> I hope Apple didn't do some magic to prevent installation of other OSes 
> like Mac OS X.
> 
> Anyway, I guess I will give it a try.

I believe the idea was that you can do just that - dual boot with 
whatever you want for x86. The inverse - installing intel osx on a 
non-mac machine is not going to be possible (or at least probably not 
legal).
Cheers
Antoine
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[Christoph Eckert]

Hi Antoine,


> I believe the idea was that you can do just that - dual boot with
> whatever you want for x86.

I guess it depends on GRUB and if it can install so it is found by the 
Mac Mini BIOS.

> The inverse - installing intel osx on a 
> non-mac machine is not going to be possible (or at least probably not
> legal).

I didn't read the Mac OS X license, but as I'm not interested to install 
it on any other machine, I don't care.

I want to install Linux on the MAC Mini, but if possible I'd like to 
keep OS X as well on it.


Thanks for the thoughts & best regards


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[Michael George]

On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 11:29:39AM +0100, Antoine wrote:
> 
> I believe the idea was that you can do just that - dual boot with 
> whatever you want for x86. The inverse - installing intel osx on a 
> non-mac machine is not going to be possible (or at least probably not 
> legal).

While it's not legal, I hear it's also not hard.  A friend of a friend
bought a new iMac, imaged it onto an IBM laptop, applied a patch, and it
runs and even updates.

I'm disappointed in Apple.  They could have done better if they wanted
to...  They could have use the intel processors and completely reworked
the architecture and use OpenFirmware...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Mac Mini Intel

[Eugene Rosenzweig]

Christoph Eckert wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> I'm interested in buying an Intel Mac Mini.
>
> Qestions:
>
> * Will Gentoo run on it?
>
>   
Sooner or later I am sure it will :)
> * If so: Which installer is the right one (sorry I'm not that familiar 
> with processor hardware)?
>
>   
there are no ready-made yet I dont think
> * Can it dual boot with the installed Mac OS?
>   
yes.
> Thanks & best regards
>
>
> ce
>   
These guys have been working on running linux on new Macs:
http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
They started off by running gentoo, as this pic shows:
http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Image:Gentoo2.jpg
They got a HOWTO going:
http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/HOWTO
They have a livecd but it is a Ubuntu one:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=160126
So they have kernel patches, they can boot and they got a dual-boot 
guide. Thats enough to install gentoo on your x86 mac I think. With a 
bit of hacking. I am sure sooner or later there will be a ready-made 
installer CD for it too.

Eugene.

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