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From: Dave Nebinger <dnebinger@joat.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:12:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43FDDEFF.9000502@joat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7573e9640602230803r4ca91fbx8cac9c94e1da4476@mail.gmail.com>

Richard Fish wrote:
> On 2/23/06, Dave Nebinger <dnebinger@joat.com> wrote:
>> This is never true.  Swap is *always* called for, and for a good reason.
> 
> No, it isn't.  For my single-user laptop with 2G of RAM, I actually
> prefer that the OOM kill any runaway process that is gobbling up RAM. 
> My laptop disk (even at 7200rpm) is too damn slow for swap to be at
> all useful.  The system _will_ be dead until swap is exhausted and the
> OOM kicks in anyway.  The only reason I have a swap partition at all
> is for suspend2 hibernation.
> 

But again you have shown that swap is *always* called for.  You've got 
2gb ram, yet you still need swap for hibernation.

>> Your example of having a real-time responsive app requiring memory
>> residence is a determining factor of how much physical memory you'll
>> need to keep the app resident.
>>
>> But the truth of the matter is this will not be your only app running on
>> the system.  Throw some big memory hogs into play, i.e. an active X
>> session running locally and that remote X session you've started from
>> work, and pretty soon you can find yourself eating up that 1gb that you
>> thought would be fine.
> 
> No one would ever place a real-time responsive app on a desktop system.

So if your argument is that it would only go on a server, are you also 
arguing that it would only go on a dedicated server?  Or is it a 
multi-function server that's also running perhaps a web server, an app 
server, an email server, ftp server, etc.?

The addition of any sort of server which spawns threads in response to 
incoming network connection means that you've got a variable memory 
consumer which could, should incoming load require, a potential chance 
to overwhelm physical memory.

Same situation, just a different scenario.


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-23 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-23 11:07 [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition? joaoemanuel1981
2006-02-23 12:04 ` jarry
2006-02-23 13:55   ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:05     ` John Jolet
2006-02-23 14:30     ` Dave Nebinger
2006-02-23 16:03       ` Richard Fish
2006-02-23 16:12         ` Dave Nebinger [this message]
2006-02-23 18:07           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-23 19:38           ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:45     ` Abhay Kedia
2006-02-23 14:53     ` [gentoo-user] <OT> " jarry
2006-02-23 15:22       ` Andrei Slavoiu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-17 22:20 [gentoo-user] " John Jolet
2006-02-16 12:19 Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 12:34 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-16 12:42 ` Neil Bothwick
     [not found]   ` <7ae6f8f0602160450i3d0b3973x437e82ff45c8606e@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-16 12:51     ` Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 13:06       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 13:47         ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:39           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:17             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 17:46               ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 18:00                 ` kashani
2006-02-16 20:11                 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 20:24                   ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17  7:52                   ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17  9:41                     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17  1:59           ` Zac Slade
2006-02-17  9:38             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:19         ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:45           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:34             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 16:18               ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 18:46                 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 19:40                   ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:12                     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 21:07                       ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 23:37                         ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17  6:02                       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17  7:14                       ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-16 20:23                     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17  6:33                       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 18:04                         ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:19                           ` Richard Fish
2006-02-17 18:38                             ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 19:18                               ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-17 19:41                                 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-17 22:15                               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:35                           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:15                           ` Patrick Börjesson
2006-02-17 23:48                             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 19:52                         ` Maarten
2006-02-17 21:35                           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:36                             ` Rumen Yotov
2006-02-17 22:56                             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:58           ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:14             ` Robert Crawford
2006-02-16 15:36               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:47         ` jarry
2006-02-16 13:03 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 14:14   ` apn
2006-02-16 14:51     ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:04       ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:15         ` John Jolet
2006-02-16 15:29           ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:10       ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:30         ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:09           ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 16:21             ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:58               ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:33         ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 17:46           ` Jarry
2006-02-16 18:13             ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:50         ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 13:29 ` Emanuele Morozzi
2006-02-16 14:22 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 15:02   ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:48     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 18:40       ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:33   ` Alexander Skwar

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