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From: Dave Nebinger <dnebinger@joat.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:30:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43FDC6FA.1060807@joat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200602231555.18509.uwix@iway.na>

Uwe Thiem wrote:
>> 3. because it is always better to have too much ram/swap then too little
> Nnnnot always. There are circumstances when you do not want swap at all. 

This is never true.  Swap is *always* called for, and for a good reason.

Your example of having a real-time responsive app requiring memory 
residence is a determining factor of how much physical memory you'll 
need to keep the app resident.

But the truth of the matter is this will not be your only app running on 
the system.  Throw some big memory hogs into play, i.e. an active X 
session running locally and that remote X session you've started from 
work, and pretty soon you can find yourself eating up that 1gb that you 
thought would be fine.

Except that since you did not have any swap enabled, once you reach the 
1gb limit, processes start failing.  You find yourself unable to log 
into the box because there's not enough memory to spawn a new shell. 
You're forced to hard-boot the system and hope that the HD caches were 
flushed to the disk before you hit the reset button.

Having swap is just another manner of safe-guarding your system.  Once 
you breach the physical limit, there's always swap to fall back on. 
Sure all of your apps will suffer while swapping occurs, but at least 
you stand a chance of cleaning up the situation w/o facing the hard 
reboot option.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-23 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-23 11:07 [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition? joaoemanuel1981
2006-02-23 12:04 ` jarry
2006-02-23 13:55   ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:05     ` John Jolet
2006-02-23 14:30     ` Dave Nebinger [this message]
2006-02-23 16:03       ` Richard Fish
2006-02-23 16:12         ` Dave Nebinger
2006-02-23 18:07           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-23 19:38           ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:45     ` Abhay Kedia
2006-02-23 14:53     ` [gentoo-user] <OT> " jarry
2006-02-23 15:22       ` Andrei Slavoiu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-17 22:20 [gentoo-user] " John Jolet
2006-02-16 12:19 Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 12:34 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-16 12:42 ` Neil Bothwick
     [not found]   ` <7ae6f8f0602160450i3d0b3973x437e82ff45c8606e@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-16 12:51     ` Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 13:06       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 13:47         ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:39           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:17             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 17:46               ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 18:00                 ` kashani
2006-02-16 20:11                 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 20:24                   ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17  7:52                   ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17  9:41                     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17  1:59           ` Zac Slade
2006-02-17  9:38             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:19         ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:45           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:34             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 16:18               ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 18:46                 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 19:40                   ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:12                     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 21:07                       ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 23:37                         ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17  6:02                       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17  7:14                       ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-16 20:23                     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17  6:33                       ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 18:04                         ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:19                           ` Richard Fish
2006-02-17 18:38                             ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 19:18                               ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-17 19:41                                 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-17 22:15                               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:35                           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:15                           ` Patrick Börjesson
2006-02-17 23:48                             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 19:52                         ` Maarten
2006-02-17 21:35                           ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:36                             ` Rumen Yotov
2006-02-17 22:56                             ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:58           ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:14             ` Robert Crawford
2006-02-16 15:36               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:47         ` jarry
2006-02-16 13:03 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 14:14   ` apn
2006-02-16 14:51     ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:04       ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:15         ` John Jolet
2006-02-16 15:29           ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:10       ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:30         ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:09           ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 16:21             ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:58               ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:33         ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 17:46           ` Jarry
2006-02-16 18:13             ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:50         ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 13:29 ` Emanuele Morozzi
2006-02-16 14:22 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 15:02   ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:48     ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 18:40       ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:33   ` Alexander Skwar

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