[gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[gentuxx]

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I've got a little amateur project that I'm working on, and I'm running
into some difficulty.  The most immediate problem I'm having, is that
I want to put gentoo on one of my systems, but they don't have a
CDROM.  (These are old boxes.)  So, my question, simply enough, is
there a JumpStart or KixStart equivalent in gentoo?  I.e. tftp boot,
that'll download the install image, etc.?

TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[Ghislain Bourgeois]

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At my job, I designed a system we call Pullstart that we use to install
Gentoo servers. I'm basically building what I call a "stage-4", which is
simply a stage3 updated, with the packages we want added to it and a generic
kernel built with genkernel. It is made available through a tarball on a web
server and I have a simple script generated by web-based configuration
utility to install it on the server and configure it for the machine
(partitionning, networking, etc...). The only thing you need to run the
script is to have a basic linux system running, which you can get with a
livecd or a floppy like tomslinux (sorry, I forgot the exact name...). Of
course, I have an NDA and the scripts all belong to the company, so I can't
make it available, but you can build yourself something similar.

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On 2/17/06, gentuxx <gentuxx@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've got a little amateur project that I'm working on, and I'm running
> into some difficulty.  The most immediate problem I'm having, is that
> I want to put gentoo on one of my systems, but they don't have a
> CDROM.  (These are old boxes.)  So, my question, simply enough, is
> there a JumpStart or KixStart equivalent in gentoo?  I.e. tftp boot,
> that'll download the install image, etc.?
>
> TIA
>
> - --
> gentux
> echo "hfouvyAdpy/ofu" | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge'
>
> gentux's gpg fingerprint ==> 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40  9795 2D81 924A
> 6996 0993
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[gentuxx]

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Ghislain Bourgeois wrote:

> At my job, I designed a system we call Pullstart that we use to install
Gentoo servers. I'm basically building what I call a "stage-4", which is
simply a stage3 updated, with the packages we want added to it and a
generic kernel built with genkernel. It is made available through a
tarball on a web server and I have a simple script generated by
web-based configuration utility to install it on the server and
configure it for the machine (partitionning, networking, etc...). The
only thing you need to run the script is to have a basic linux system
running, which you can get with a livecd or a floppy like tomslinux
(sorry, I forgot the exact name...). Of course, I have an NDA and the
scripts all belong to the company, so I can't make it available, but you
can build yourself something similar.
>

Well, thanks for the tip.  But for one, I wasn't really planning to
spend *that* much time fussing about it.  The focus is something else
entirely, and I don't have the time to dedicate to designing my own
system.  I totally understand the NDA/company proprietary info, etc.,
etc., so I appreciate the pointer.

I've set up Solaris Jumpstart for Solaris installations in the past.
And, ironically enough, this project is using gentoo-sparc.  Jumpstart
is relatively easy to configure, I just didn't know if there might be
an equivalent for gentoo.  I checked for both JumpStart and KixStart
(I've seen KixStart ported to other distros even though it's a RedHat
package) by running `emerge search jumpstart` and got bupkus.

Also, one inherent flaw with your suggestion is the requirement of a
livecd.  I know you mentioned floppy, but these are SPARC boxen and I
doubt I could fit all the drivers/commands/etc. on a floppy, and one
doesn't even have a floppy.  Thus the necessity for a network boot
situation.

I appreciate the response though.


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>
> On 2/17/06, *gentuxx* <gentuxx@gmail.com <mailto:gentuxx@gmail.com>> wrote:
>

> I've got a little amateur project that I'm working on, and I'm running
> into some difficulty. The most immediate problem I'm having, is that
> I want to put gentoo on one of my systems, but they don't have a
> CDROM. (These are old boxes.) So, my question, simply enough, is
> there a JumpStart or KixStart equivalent in gentoo? I.e. tftp boot,
> that'll download the install image, etc.?
>
> TIA
>
> --
> gentux
> echo "hfouvyAdpy/ofu" | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge'
>
> gentux's gpg fingerprint ==> 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A
> 6996 0993


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[Rumen Yotov]

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Hi,
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 00:30 -0500, Ghislain Bourgeois wrote:
> At my job, I designed a system we call Pullstart that we use to
> install Gentoo servers. I'm basically building what I call a
> "stage-4", which is simply a stage3 updated, with the packages we want
> added to it and a generic kernel built with genkernel. It is made
> available through a tarball on a web server and I have a simple script
> generated by web-based configuration utility to install it on the
> server and configure it for the machine (partitionning, networking,
> etc...). The only thing you need to run the script is to have a basic
> linux system running, which you can get with a livecd or a floppy like
> tomslinux (sorry, I forgot the exact name...). Of course, I have an
> NDA and the scripts all belong to the company, so I can't make it
> available, but you can build yourself something similar. 
> 
> -- 
> Ghislain Bourgeois
> ---
> Linux System administrator
> 
There is an article on gentoo-wiki.com + a script to make and later
install a 'so called' stage4 tarball.
Made the stage4 tarball myself but still haven't tried to use it ;)
HTH.Rumen
> On 2/17/06, gentuxx <gentuxx@gmail.com> wrote:
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>         I've got a little amateur project that I'm working on, and I'm
>         running 
>         into some difficulty.  The most immediate problem I'm having,
>         is that
>         I want to put gentoo on one of my systems, but they don't have
>         a
>         CDROM.  (These are old boxes.)  So, my question, simply
>         enough, is
>         there a JumpStart or KixStart equivalent in gentoo?   I.e.
>         tftp boot,
>         that'll download the install image, etc.?
>         
>         TIA
>         
>         - --
>         gentux
>         echo "hfouvyAdpy/ofu" | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge'
>         
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[Steven S.]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, gentuxx wrote:

Read through http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap6

You can install from a distro's boot floppies... I have done it 
sucessfully using Slackware 9.1 floppies. You need a binary of bzip, you 
can download one from where I stuck mine at 
http://members.lycos.co.uk/stupendoussteve/Misc/bzip2-102-x86-linux24 if 
you'd like. Just have to set it execute and then run ./bzip2 blah.tar.bz 
(this is to unpack the stage files). Slackware can partition and format on 
it's own. Once you unpack the stage files it's pretty much right out of 
the handbook. You'll need the slackware boot and install floppies, as well 
as the networking ones and probably some others. It's not the easiest 
process but it is not that time consuming... just gotta get the right 
floppies.





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> Ghislain Bourgeois wrote:
>
>> At my job, I designed a system we call Pullstart that we use to install
> Gentoo servers. I'm basically building what I call a "stage-4", which is
> simply a stage3 updated, with the packages we want added to it and a
> generic kernel built with genkernel. It is made available through a
> tarball on a web server and I have a simple script generated by
> web-based configuration utility to install it on the server and
> configure it for the machine (partitionning, networking, etc...). The
> only thing you need to run the script is to have a basic linux system
> running, which you can get with a livecd or a floppy like tomslinux
> (sorry, I forgot the exact name...). Of course, I have an NDA and the
> scripts all belong to the company, so I can't make it available, but you
> can build yourself something similar.
>>
>
> Well, thanks for the tip.  But for one, I wasn't really planning to
> spend *that* much time fussing about it.  The focus is something else
> entirely, and I don't have the time to dedicate to designing my own
> system.  I totally understand the NDA/company proprietary info, etc.,
> etc., so I appreciate the pointer.
>
> I've set up Solaris Jumpstart for Solaris installations in the past.
> And, ironically enough, this project is using gentoo-sparc.  Jumpstart
> is relatively easy to configure, I just didn't know if there might be
> an equivalent for gentoo.  I checked for both JumpStart and KixStart
> (I've seen KixStart ported to other distros even though it's a RedHat
> package) by running `emerge search jumpstart` and got bupkus.
>
> Also, one inherent flaw with your suggestion is the requirement of a
> livecd.  I know you mentioned floppy, but these are SPARC boxen and I
> doubt I could fit all the drivers/commands/etc. on a floppy, and one
> doesn't even have a floppy.  Thus the necessity for a network boot
> situation.
>
> I appreciate the response though.
>
>
>> --
>> Ghislain Bourgeois
>> ---
>> Linux System administrator
>>
>> On 2/17/06, *gentuxx* <gentuxx@gmail.com <mailto:gentuxx@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>
>> I've got a little amateur project that I'm working on, and I'm running
>> into some difficulty. The most immediate problem I'm having, is that
>> I want to put gentoo on one of my systems, but they don't have a
>> CDROM. (These are old boxes.) So, my question, simply enough, is
>> there a JumpStart or KixStart equivalent in gentoo? I.e. tftp boot,
>> that'll download the install image, etc.?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> --
>> gentux
>> echo "hfouvyAdpy/ofu" | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge'
>>
>> gentux's gpg fingerprint ==> 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A
>> 6996 0993
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[Bob Sanders]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:54:04 -0800
gentuxx <gentuxx@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Also, one inherent flaw with your suggestion is the requirement of a
> livecd.  I know you mentioned floppy, but these are SPARC boxen and I
> doubt I could fit all the drivers/commands/etc. on a floppy, and one
> doesn't even have a floppy.  Thus the necessity for a network boot
> situation.
>

Why not setup a diskless boot via dhcp/tftp?  And boot the liveCD over the net?
It pretty much runs in memory.  Once the kernel in running, the rest could be nfs
mounted.  You might have to tweak a startup/initrd script, but that should be
about it all.

See -

 	http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml
	http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap5

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[John Jolet]

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On 2/17/06 11:30 PM, "Ghislain Bourgeois" <ghislain.bourgeois@gmail.com>
wrote:

> At my job, I designed a system we call Pullstart that we use to install Gentoo
> servers. I'm basically building what I call a "stage-4", which is simply a
> stage3 updated, with the packages we want added to it and a generic kernel
> built with genkernel. It is made available through a tarball on a web server
> and I have a simple script generated by web-based configuration utility to
> install it on the server and configure it for the machine (partitionning,
> networking, etc...). The only thing you need to run the script is to have a
> basic linux system running, which you can get with a livecd or a floppy like
> tomslinux (sorry, I forgot the exact name...). Of course, I have an NDA and
> the scripts all belong to the company, so I can't make it available, but you
> can build yourself something similar.

I use something called systemimager that does a pxeboot install.  Kinda a
pain to do it with gentoo, as they really, really want redhat or suse, but
it can be done.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent

[gentuxx]

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John Jolet wrote:

> Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo kixtstart/jumpstart equivalent
>
>
> On 2/17/06 11:30 PM, "Ghislain Bourgeois"
> <ghislain.bourgeois@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At my job, I designed a system we call Pullstart that we use to
> install Gentoo servers. I'm basically building what I call a
> "stage-4", which is simply a stage3 updated, with the packages
> we want added to it and a generic kernel built with genkernel.
> It is made available through a tarball on a web server and I
> have a simple script generated by web-based configuration
> utility to install it on the server and configure it for the
> machine (partitionning, networking, etc...). The only thing you
> need to run the script is to have a basic linux system running,
> which you can get with a livecd or a floppy like tomslinux
> (sorry, I forgot the exact name...). Of course, I have an NDA
> and the scripts all belong to the company, so I can't make it
> available, but you can build yourself something similar.
>
>
> I use something called systemimager that does a pxeboot install.
> Kinda a pain to do it with gentoo, as they really, really want
> redhat or suse, but it can be done.

Just for the edification of the list, I managed to find exactly what I
needed in the gentoo documentation.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-sparc-netboot-howto.xml

Thanks to all those who replied!

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