Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

[Alexander Skwar <listen@alexander.skwar.name>]

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Thursday 16 February 2006 17:18, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
>> > On Thursday 16 February 2006 15:45, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> >> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday 16 February 2006 14:06, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> >> >> Izar Ilun wrote:

>> > Why should he make /tmp noexec,
>>
>> Security precaution.
> if you have 10+ users with access to the box. But a workstation, without even 
> sshd running, it is not needed.

"needed" - What's "needed", anyway?

> And hey, why should /tmp noexec save you from anything?

Because it does.

> If someone is  able to break into your box, he can build his tools in /home 
> or /var/tmp or somewhere else. No need for /tmp.

Wrong again. If tmp is the only place somebody can write, then
it might save you (and it DID save my ass more than once now).

>> >> > With that sizes, it is nearly impossible to fill / completly up.
>> >>
>> >> And it's impossible to have some flexibility.
>> >
>> > no, it is absolutly flexible
>>
>> Ah. Please explain how you mount /tmp noexec and /usr
>> readonly.
> 
> I don't because it is wasted effort.

Of course it's not.

So, how do you do that?

> If someone has the right to write to a rw /usr/ partition,

Why should he have that right?

> he has the rights 
> to remount a ro /usr as rw

That's of couse wrong again.

> and can go on.. It just makes maintance harder.

Not really.

>> Please also explain, how you seperate data areas (like
>> /var and /usr).
> 
> I have /var and /usr?

That's not the question.

Please answer it. *YOU* are the one saying that a grossly
oversized filesystem offers more flexibility.

>> I see. Strange thing is, that about every server and workstation
>> I've seen more or less contradicts what you say.
> 
> if you have 20+ users on each of them, and every single one is a little 
> cracker in disguisse, it may make sense, but for a single user box?

Why are you asking?

>> > yes it is. It wastes space,
>>
>> Not really. Some. But not really.
> 
> 15% of the space on each partition. That sums up.

Yep. And your 15% are of course less then my 15%, correct?

> If every partition takes a second, it will be very noticable.

Hardly. (Notice that I'm not saying "No".)

While what you're saying is true in theory, you're
exaggerating enourmously. And because of that, you're
wrong.

>> If you're *SO* low on hard disk space, I'd advice to buy
>> more harddisks.
> 
> more harddisks = higher chance that one of them dies.

Yep. Time to stop those bad backups. You're funny.
More of this, please! 8=)

> It is simple math.

*LOL* _You_ should not talk about maths :)

> I haven't seen any good reason for a bazillion small partitions,

That's of course not what I wrote. BTW: What's a "bazillion"?
More than you can count? More than 5? :) And *YOU* are talking
about maths?

*G* You are really making me laugh - thanks!

> that only 
> increase your work

Not really.

> and have to be monitored constantly (f* /var is full, 
> f* /tmp is full f* I have to remount /usr).

What are you talking about? "constantly"?

Well, you know, if "df" is too hard for you - sorry, pal,
tough luck. But you just cannot expect to be taken seriously.

Alexander Skwar
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