From: Alexander Skwar <listen@alexander.skwar.name>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:18:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43F4A5F0.7030704@mid.message-center.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200602161634.05506.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de>
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Thursday 16 February 2006 15:45, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
>> > On Thursday 16 February 2006 14:06, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> >> Izar Ilun wrote:
>> >> > I say that, It'll be just:
>> >> > - /boot
>> >> > - swap
>> >> > - /home
>> >> > - / (all the rest)
>> >>
>> >> That's not advisable. I'd strongly suggest to create
>> >> filesystems for /boot, swap, /home, /opt, /usr, /var
>> >> and / (of course). This way you're more flexible
>> >> and also a bit safer (not such a high risk of running
>> >> out of space on /).
>> >
>> > and he wastes a lot of space,
>>
>> No, he doesn't. Where does he waste space?
>
> because you shall not fill up any partition more than 85% or fragmentation
> will go up insanly and performance go down to the bottom.
Yes, but we're no longer in the age, where 10GB hard
drives are high end. I do agree, that you might waste
a little bit of space. But that's it. And that's only
a theoretical value. Nothing to worry about in real
life.
>> > makes boot a lot longer
>>
>> Not really.
>
> yes, really.
jaja.
>> > and increases head
>> > movement.
>> >
>> > One big / (like 40 or 80GB) will be enough
>>
>> Yes, and it's obviously the worst solution. How do
>> you mount /tmp noexec? How do you mount /usr read-only?
>
> why should you mount /usr readonly,
Because you normally don't need write access to
/usr, unless:
> if you do your emerging always everyday?
...unless, you're writing.
> Why should he make /tmp noexec,
Security precaution.
>> > With that sizes, it is nearly impossible to fill / completly up.
>>
>> And it's impossible to have some flexibility.
>
> no, it is absolutly flexible
Ah. Please explain how you mount /tmp noexec and /usr
readonly.
Please also explain, how you seperate data areas (like
/var and /usr).
>> > To put everything on its own partition was good, when harddisks were
>> > 2gb-10gb big.
>>
>> And it's still good today.
>>
> no it is not
I see. Strange thing is, that about every server and workstation
I've seen more or less contradicts what you say.
>> > But today it is just a waste of space and time.
>>
>> No, it's absolutely not.
>
> yes it is. It wastes space,
Not really. Some. But not really.
> makes boot much longer.
No, it doesn't. Not noticeably, at least.
> More partitions = more
> haead movement = higher risk of damage. More partitions = more risk that one
> of the partitions dies = more risk of fatal data loss.
There's always backup.
> More partitions = less space available
Not really. Some. But not really.
If you're *SO* low on hard disk space, I'd advice to buy
more harddisks.
> You see, there are a lot of good reasons to keep the number of patitions low.
Actually, as *you* see, there aren't many reasons and no good
reasons to do what you say.
Alexander Skwar
--
It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails,
admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-16 12:19 [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition? Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 12:34 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-16 12:42 ` Neil Bothwick
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2006-02-16 12:51 ` Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 13:06 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 13:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:39 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 17:46 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 18:00 ` kashani
2006-02-16 20:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 20:24 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 7:52 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 9:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17 1:59 ` Zac Slade
2006-02-17 9:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:19 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:45 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:34 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 16:18 ` Alexander Skwar [this message]
2006-02-16 18:46 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 19:40 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:12 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 21:07 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 23:37 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17 6:02 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 7:14 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-16 20:23 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 6:33 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 18:04 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:19 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-17 18:38 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 19:18 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-17 19:41 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-17 22:15 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:35 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:15 ` Patrick Börjesson
2006-02-17 23:48 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 19:52 ` Maarten
2006-02-17 21:35 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:36 ` Rumen Yotov
2006-02-17 23:15 ` [gentoo-user] /usr as noexec? (was GB for / partition flamewar) Eric Bliss
2006-02-18 0:23 ` Maarten
2006-02-18 2:20 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-02-18 13:05 ` Maarten
2006-02-18 15:53 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-18 17:51 ` Maarten
2006-02-18 20:09 ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2006-02-19 19:50 ` kashani
2006-02-19 20:27 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-19 21:08 ` kashani
2006-02-19 21:18 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-19 21:37 ` kashani
2006-02-18 5:21 ` Rumen Yotov
2006-02-18 9:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17 22:56 ` [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition? Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:58 ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:14 ` Robert Crawford
2006-02-16 15:36 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:47 ` jarry
2006-02-16 13:03 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 14:14 ` apn
2006-02-16 14:51 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:04 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:15 ` John Jolet
2006-02-16 15:29 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:10 ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:30 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:09 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 16:21 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:58 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:33 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 17:46 ` Jarry
2006-02-16 18:13 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:50 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 13:29 ` Emanuele Morozzi
2006-02-16 14:22 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 15:02 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:48 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 18:40 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:33 ` Alexander Skwar
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2006-02-17 22:20 John Jolet
2006-02-23 11:07 joaoemanuel1981
2006-02-23 12:04 ` jarry
2006-02-23 13:55 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:05 ` John Jolet
2006-02-23 14:30 ` Dave Nebinger
2006-02-23 16:03 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-23 16:12 ` Dave Nebinger
2006-02-23 18:07 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-23 19:38 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:45 ` Abhay Kedia
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