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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?
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I'm just writing it for the sake of curiosity, so no flaming is here.
Just because some answer sound quite "sarcastic", but that's just a
style thing to get it short. :)
> Yes, but you then have bloat (because Konqueror contains web browsing
> features that you are not using, therefore the code is unnecessary for
> you, but nonetheless present).
[...]
> Code, code, code. Bloat (for me).
[...]
> Fine, I can turn them off, but again, there is
> then a whole lot of backend code for a feature that I do not want in the
> first place and know I don't want.
Ehm. Perhaps it's me being dense but: who cares about unused code? Ok,
you have unnecessary, unused code sitting on your HD: where's the
problem? You never see it.
> I have to then spend time finding out how to disable it or avoid
> installing it.
It's quite odd you obviously had spent the (worthwile but not
instantaneous) time to learn Linux, install Gentoo etc. but then you
can't type "emerge --unmerge kmix".
>>I can't even understand what do you mean here. If you don't want
>>icons, don't put them on the desktop. It's that simple. You have to
>>do *nothing* to avoid icons on your desktop!
>
> The (presumably) default setting (since I've never touched it, and it is
> checked in kcontrol) is "Show icons on desktop". There are then two
> additional tabs for kinds of icons that you can enable or disable (for
> file types and drives).
But if you don't actively link things on the desktop, *nothing* appears
on your desktop!!
>>>I have no interest in going through 6 tabs to specify Window
>>>Behaviour (I'm looking at the KDE Control Center right now).
>>
>>Ok, that's a good point. However that 6 tabs are more probably than
>>not a wrapper to a plain text config file, that you can configure
>>with your favourite editor all at once.
>
> Code for a gui function that I'm not using if I'm just editing the base
> text file anyway.
?
> Yes they work fine, but they look like poop unless you jump through some
> hoops to "integrate" them with the look of your KDE desktop. This may
> involve installing additional applications (gtk-chtheme or
> gtk-engine-qt), or editing a text file (if you need to "fix" GTK 1
> programs, which are generally not affected by the "theme consolidation"
> programs, which generally assume you're working with GTK2). Since one of
> KDE's big selling points is an integrated look-n-feel, "outside" apps
> that break the loveliness of the KDE desktop are very noticeable.
This is one of the things I really have never understood.
1)On a, let's say, fvwm or fluxbox desktop (the one I actually use at
home, I am a KDE user at work), no app is integrated with nothing. So
the situation should be worse.
2)GTK apps look different from KDE apps. So what? gmplayer or xpdf
aren't similar to both. What's so bad in them being different?
> I don't even type things like that, I bookmark locations in my file
> manager (admittedly, Krusader, if installed with konqueror support--
> which means I have to install Konq, though I don't use Konq-- does
> recognize kioslaves, so I can bookmark folders in media:/ or smb:/ ) and
> just go where I intend to go. without further ado. But I can bookmark
> locations (even Samba shares and HAL mounts) in most file managers I
> have available (Nautilus, Krusader, TuxCommander, emelFM2)
Hmm. So you mean, for example, you can bookmark a location that shows
you all SMB-connected PCs on your local network? How do you do this?
Even for not-smbmounted shares?
Anyway (apart from the code thing, where I am very curious) I understand
your philosophy.
Thanks,
m.
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