[gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Daniel Pielmeier]

hello all,

i want to test some other windowmanagers and if i find one that
satisfies me i want to switch from the gnome-desktop to this
windowmanager. So how can i remove all gnome packages. Is it save to
remove all gnome-base and gnome-extra packages and run "emerge depclean"
and "revdep-rebuild".
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Holly Bostick]

Daniel Pielmeier schreef:
> hello all,
> 
> i want to test some other windowmanagers and if i find one that 
> satisfies me i want to switch from the gnome-desktop to this 
> windowmanager. So how can i remove all gnome packages. Is it save to
>  remove all gnome-base and gnome-extra packages and run "emerge 
> depclean" and "revdep-rebuild".

A better way would be to

emerge -C gnome(-light)

to unmerge the meta-package you installed (either gnome or gnome-light;
this will not unmerge any packages, just the meta-package, but it will
orphan all the dependent programs that were installed by the
meta-package, which is what you want),

then run emerge depclean -p to show the now-orphaned dependencies of
those meta-packages,

emerge -C(av) the ones you know you don't want (since you might, for
example, want to keep Evolution, if you use it, or Totem or whatever;
just because you don't use the GNOME desktop doesn't mean you have to
stop using every GNOME package you might enjoy, even under another WM),

emerge (-av) any of the packages that you may want to keep (to get them
into your world file)

run emerge depclean -p again to confirm that you got rid of everything
you wanted gone, if so, you're done, if not, rinse and repeat.

Don't really know why a revdep-rebuild would be necessary, but it
doesn't hurt to do one (with -p first).

And of course, you don't necessarily have to remove GNOME at all, just
because you use another WM/DE (unless you have a disk space issue or
something). Suppose your other WM/DE breaks? It can be useful to have a
"spare" around so that you have something to login to, if you feel more
comfortable inside a GUI.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Rumen Yotov]

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On (08/01/06 15:22), Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> hello all,
> 
> i want to test some other windowmanagers and if i find one that
> satisfies me i want to switch from the gnome-desktop to this
> windowmanager. So how can i remove all gnome packages. Is it save to
> remove all gnome-base and gnome-extra packages and run "emerge depclean"
> and "revdep-rebuild".
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> 
Hi,
This is the way to go, but unmerge only the "gnome-base/gnome" as it's a
'meta-package' for whole 'gnome' DE. Then run: 'emerge depclean -pv'.
Check the packages and unmerge them in smaller groups after which run
'revdep-rebuild' to check for unmerge errors.
If you more confident look at gnome dependencies (in the gnome-ebuild).
PS:Consider removing (also) the gnome USE-flag from /etc/make.conf but later
will have to re-emerge some packages (due to changed USE flag).
HTH.Rumen

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Thank you,

i will try this, but i have emerged the  gnome-light meta-package + some
other gnome packages witch are part of the gnome meta-package, but i did
not remember all of them. So i thought there is a simple way to remove
all of them.

When i remove the gnome light meta-package, will the additional packages
i have installed become orphaned too, i am not sure if they will so i
probably have to remove them manually

I did not use any of the gnome packages like evolution or totem before,
so i started to think the only thing i need is a nice comfortable and
custumizable windowmanger and gnome even gnome-light is to big for me.

Regards Daniel

Holly Bostick schrieb:
> Daniel Pielmeier schreef:
> 
>>hello all,
>>
>>i want to test some other windowmanagers and if i find one that 
>>satisfies me i want to switch from the gnome-desktop to this 
>>windowmanager. So how can i remove all gnome packages. Is it save to
>> remove all gnome-base and gnome-extra packages and run "emerge 
>>depclean" and "revdep-rebuild".
> 
> 
> A better way would be to
> 
> emerge -C gnome(-light)
> 
> to unmerge the meta-package you installed (either gnome or gnome-light;
> this will not unmerge any packages, just the meta-package, but it will
> orphan all the dependent programs that were installed by the
> meta-package, which is what you want),
> 
> then run emerge depclean -p to show the now-orphaned dependencies of
> those meta-packages,
> 
> emerge -C(av) the ones you know you don't want (since you might, for
> example, want to keep Evolution, if you use it, or Totem or whatever;
> just because you don't use the GNOME desktop doesn't mean you have to
> stop using every GNOME package you might enjoy, even under another WM),
> 
> emerge (-av) any of the packages that you may want to keep (to get them
> into your world file)
> 
> run emerge depclean -p again to confirm that you got rid of everything
> you wanted gone, if so, you're done, if not, rinse and repeat.
> 
> Don't really know why a revdep-rebuild would be necessary, but it
> doesn't hurt to do one (with -p first).
> 
> And of course, you don't necessarily have to remove GNOME at all, just
> because you use another WM/DE (unless you have a disk space issue or
> something). Suppose your other WM/DE breaks? It can be useful to have a
> "spare" around so that you have something to login to, if you feel more
> comfortable inside a GUI.
> 
> HTH,
> Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:36:52 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

> emerge (-av) any of the packages that you may want to keep (to get them
> into your world file)

That will result in the program being recompiled from scratch again.
emerge -n will add it to thew world file without recompilation if it is
already installed.

You can also do "echo category/package >>/var/lib/portage/world", which
is what i did before I discovered emerge -n, but using emerge seems more
portage-friendly and less likely to screw things up with a typo.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Daniel Pielmeier]

There is still the question how i can remove the additional packages
(mentioned before) i have installed but which are not dependencies of
gnome-light.

Neil Bothwick schrieb:
> On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:36:52 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
> 
> 
>>emerge (-av) any of the packages that you may want to keep (to get them
>>into your world file)
> 
> 
> That will result in the program being recompiled from scratch again.
> emerge -n will add it to thew world file without recompilation if it is
> already installed.
> 
> You can also do "echo category/package >>/var/lib/portage/world", which
> is what i did before I discovered emerge -n, but using emerge seems more
> portage-friendly and less likely to screw things up with a typo.
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:03:51 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

> There is still the question how i can remove the additional packages
> (mentioned before) i have installed but which are not dependencies of
> gnome-light.

If you installed them yourself, rather than portage installing them as
dependencies, they will be in your world file. You should be able to find
them with

grep gnome /var/lib/portage/world


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete [SOLVED]

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Thank you for your suggestions, i will try them!

Unmerging gnome-light + the dependencies and manually searching for the
additional files in the world-file.
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete [SOLVED]

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:37:10 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

> Unmerging gnome-light + the dependencies and manually searching for the
> additional files in the world-file.

Don't forget to to "emerge -auvDN world" and "revdep-rebuild -p"
afterwards. I take it you've already removed gnome from your USE flags. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove gnome complete

[Dale]

Rumen Yotov wrote:

>On (08/01/06 15:22), Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>  
>
>>hello all,
>>
>>i want to test some other windowmanagers and if i find one that
>>satisfies me i want to switch from the gnome-desktop to this
>>windowmanager. So how can i remove all gnome packages. Is it save to
>>remove all gnome-base and gnome-extra packages and run "emerge depclean"
>>and "revdep-rebuild".
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>>
>>    
>>
>Hi,
>This is the way to go, but unmerge only the "gnome-base/gnome" as it's a
>'meta-package' for whole 'gnome' DE. Then run: 'emerge depclean -pv'.
>Check the packages and unmerge them in smaller groups after which run
>'revdep-rebuild' to check for unmerge errors.
>If you more confident look at gnome dependencies (in the gnome-ebuild).
>PS:Consider removing (also) the gnome USE-flag from /etc/make.conf but later
>will have to re-emerge some packages (due to changed USE flag).
>HTH.Rumen
>  
>
I did something similiar a little while ago.  I never installed Gnome 
but I did not unset the gnome in the USE line so they were pulled in as 
dependancies.  Make sure you run revdep-rebuild -p afterwards.  You may 
have some things that you will have to re-compile.  Make sure you have 
-gnome in your USE line.  I think you have to put -eds, -gtkhtml and 
-bonobo in the USE line as well.  Recheck that to make sure.  Your 
mileage may vary by what you actually want to keep.  You can view the 
descriptions in /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc to make sure.

I also did this once to.  emerge -ep world | grep gnome just to make 
sure I had all the gnome base stuff.  It will show up if you missed 
something.  May take a while on a slower rig.

Hope this helps.

Dale
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