[gentoo-user] Slow internet connection

[gentoo-user] Slow internet connection

[Dale]

Hi folks,

I recently upgraded gcc and to KDE 3.5.  I have a dial-up connection and 
a serial modem.  I did a emerge -e system twice and a emerge -e world 
during the gcc upgrade.  I then upgraded KDE.  Since I did this my modem 
connection has been really slow.  It connects at the same speed but it 
has a lot of dead time.  It sends a little data, then waits a while, 
sends a little, waits a while etc.  I am even having trouble doing a 
sync because it takes so long the server kicks me off.  It does it on 
most all sites.  It does it in Mozilla, Konqueror when I emerge 
something, whatever.  It also does it if I login to my old KDE 3.4 
session as well.  I don't think it is KDE.  It also does it when I am 
downloading emails from my ISP.

I also did a kernel upgrade as well because one of the packages, I think 
it was hal or dbus, needed a newer kernel.  I copied my .config over and 
did a make oldconfig.  As far as I can tell, all my old settings are the 
same.  I checked it with the make menuconfig of course.

I have also tried to connect with Kppp and the pon and poff commands.  I 
never did get wvdial to work.  It does the same with either connection 
though.

I did a lot of etc-updates during the upgrade.  I did make a back-up of 
/etc though.  What files should I check though?  What could cause this?  
I'm afraid that if I copy the old /etc back over some things may break.  
I know one of the programs made me delete the old files because of some 
major changes.  Seems it was hal, dbus or ivman, can't recall which though.

I use iptables for my other rigs to connect to the net with.  I stopped 
the service just to try it, not any difference. 

Any ideas?  Let me know if you need me to post something.

Thanks for the help.

Dale
:-)


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To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives.  
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slow internet connection

[Dale]

Dale wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I recently upgraded gcc and to KDE 3.5.  I have a dial-up connection 
> and a serial modem.  I did a emerge -e system twice and a emerge -e 
> world during the gcc upgrade.  I then upgraded KDE.  Since I did this 
> my modem connection has been really slow.  It connects at the same 
> speed but it has a lot of dead time.  It sends a little data, then 
> waits a while, sends a little, waits a while etc.  I am even having 
> trouble doing a sync because it takes so long the server kicks me 
> off.  It does it on most all sites.  It does it in Mozilla, Konqueror 
> when I emerge something, whatever.  It also does it if I login to my 
> old KDE 3.4 session as well.  I don't think it is KDE.  It also does 
> it when I am downloading emails from my ISP.
>
> I also did a kernel upgrade as well because one of the packages, I 
> think it was hal or dbus, needed a newer kernel.  I copied my .config 
> over and did a make oldconfig.  As far as I can tell, all my old 
> settings are the same.  I checked it with the make menuconfig of course.
>
> I have also tried to connect with Kppp and the pon and poff commands.  
> I never did get wvdial to work.  It does the same with either 
> connection though.
>
> I did a lot of etc-updates during the upgrade.  I did make a back-up 
> of /etc though.  What files should I check though?  What could cause 
> this?  I'm afraid that if I copy the old /etc back over some things 
> may break.  I know one of the programs made me delete the old files 
> because of some major changes.  Seems it was hal, dbus or ivman, can't 
> recall which though.
>
> I use iptables for my other rigs to connect to the net with.  I 
> stopped the service just to try it, not any difference.
> Any ideas?  Let me know if you need me to post something.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Dale
> :-)
>
>
Well, I have found out this much but I need some help figuring out the 
rest.  I booted into my old Gentoo and the modem works fine and it 
connects the same way, the ARQ thing.  It uses the old kernel, the old 
hal, dbus and the old KDE.  I am beginning to think this is a kernel 
thing but I can't back up a version because hal, dbus or one of them 
requires this kernel or higher and my new KDE requires the new hal, 
dbus, sounds like a catch 22 don't it.

What can I do to make sure it is the kernel?  Is it possible to back up 
a kernel version, the one the old Gentoo uses, and not botch up hal, 
dbus or something?

Just to make it more clear.  I have to versions of Gentoo on two 
seperate hard drives.  I redone my install when I moved to a faster drive.

Thanks

Dale
:-)

-- 
To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slow internet connection

[Dale]

Dale wrote:

> Well, I have found out this much but I need some help figuring out the 
> rest.  I booted into my old Gentoo and the modem works fine and it 
> connects the same way, the ARQ thing.  It uses the old kernel, the old 
> hal, dbus and the old KDE.  I am beginning to think this is a kernel 
> thing but I can't back up a version because hal, dbus or one of them 
> requires this kernel or higher and my new KDE requires the new hal, 
> dbus, sounds like a catch 22 don't it.
>
> What can I do to make sure it is the kernel?  Is it possible to back 
> up a kernel version, the one the old Gentoo uses, and not botch up 
> hal, dbus or something?
>
> Just to make it more clear.  I have to versions of Gentoo on two 
> seperate hard drives.  I redone my install when I moved to a faster 
> drive.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dale
> :-)
>
Well, this turned out to be weird.  This modem would work fine in my old 
Gentoo but not the new one.   I thought the modem was fine.  I was 
wrong, again.  This modem has a thing called ARQ on it and it was turned 
on.  That is short for Automatic Repeat Request by the way.  If I 
understand this thing correctly, and I prolly don't ;) , it sort of 
checks each peice of data and that takes time to do, therefore it slows 
my connection down a lot.  Since I only get 26K, I need all I can get. LOL

Anyway, gkrellm now shows a nice steady stream of data coming across the 
connection, allbeit a slow stream.  If anybody is unfortunate enough to 
find a DSL or cable modem with this feature, you may want to turn that 
puppy off.

Best I can figure is the old Gentoo had some setting left over from my 
old modem that got hit by lighting that disabled this "feature".  When I 
got this modem then upgraded everything it picked it up and off it 
went.  I sure am glad this is over.  I downloaded OOo for windoze 
yesterday.  It took all night and all day, about 21 hours or so.  It 
would only take about 8 hours now.  Oh, I have to send it to my now 
ex-girlfriend so she don't have to buy M$ Office.  I don't have windoze 
here.  Yes, we still talk.

Well, thanks for reading anyway.  I learned this the hard way.  I got 
lonesome at times.  ;)  I was hoping Holly would share her genius.  LOL

Dale
:-)

-- 
To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slow internet connection

[Holly Bostick]

Dale schreef:

> Well, thanks for reading anyway.  I learned this the hard way.  I got
>  lonesome at times.  ;)  I was hoping Holly would share her genius. 
> LOL
> 

Thanks for the compliment, but no genius here; I haven't had a modem
physically installed in my box since I moved here 5.5 years ago. Before
I moved, I was not a Linux user. Since I moved I've connected
via LAN, so when I became a Linux user, the network always Just Worked
(fortunately), so I still had no experience with using a modem under
Linux, except for my bf's brief attempt at running Mandrake, which
failed specifically because we didn't know how to get his ISA (!!!)
modem to work and so neither of us had a connection. I would probably be
able to at least start to troubleshoot that now (though later
information indicates that the issue was likely the modem itself), but
of course he's since changed his mobo, so even if he still used a modem,
it would be much more likely to be properly detected and initialized.

While we still used a modem, it was in my bf's Win2K box, when we got
ADSL, the software router was also on his box, and now we have a
modem/router to which both our boxes are connected, so if anyone is the
network guru in this house it's my bf, not me (since he was responsible
for the box conducting major network ops for most of the time there was
a network to be concerned with)-- but he's a Win network guru (insofar
as he's a network guru at all, which I'm not convinced of ;-) , but he
certainly knows more than me about the issue-- though that's not saying
all that much, as I know just about squat about it). And I generally
avoid "sharing my (total lack of) genius" on matters that I have no
experience in, and know that I know nothing about (though I've got a lot
of mails from this list marked 'Important' because people who *do* know
something about various matters that I'm ignorant in have posted
informative stuff, so I am learning).

The long and the short of it is that almost everything I know I've
learned "the hard way" myself over 13 years of assembling computers when
a friend sold me-- a Mac user with an all-in-one,
black-and-white-display Mac Plus)-- a 286 (with full-height HDDs and an
amber monochrome display) which I had to reassemble so that it would run
Windows 3.11 and AOL (this was before Win95, even, but 486 was the
current CPU level). And what I've found about learning that way is that
you don't forget it. The down side is of course that you don't know
everything-- but what you do know, you *know*.  And firm confidence in
your own knowledge is a good thing. You also have a fair idea of the
limits of your own knowlege, if it's based on knowing what you had to
wrestle into shape with your own hands.

So do not weep. You've written a mail that I will mark as 'Important',
and if I need to help a new Linux user that is having problems with
their modem, I now know that maybe I should ask them to check that
setting/feature. So the results of your toil can help me (and others)
help yet others we may encounter.

Good for you.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slow internet connection

[Dale]

Holly Bostick wrote:

>So do not weep. You've written a mail that I will mark as 'Important',
>and if I need to help a new Linux user that is having problems with
>their modem, I now know that maybe I should ask them to check that
>setting/feature. So the results of your toil can help me (and others)
>help yet others we may encounter.
>
>Good for you.
>
>Holly
>  
>
Well, I had to fix it so I could find me a new girlfriend anyway.  The 
dating sites are to slow.  Sort of hard for a disabled guy to find a 
lady you know.  ;)  When I did find one I liked she decided to go back 
to the guy that beat her up and is in jail.  Her loss.  I'll find a new 
one.  It's a big world.

It did take me a while to figure it out though.  My biggest worry was 
messing up something and not being able to connect at all.  I would be 
in a pickle then.

Dale
:-)

-- 
To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers.  

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