Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

[Holly Bostick <motub@planet.nl>]

George Garvey schreef:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:17:45PM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
> 
>> reinstall, again I must wonder why he would complain that such a 
>> reinstall is now likely to be much easier, and lead to a 
>> functioning system (from which he can emerge -e world to his 
>> heart's content) much faster.
>> 
>> But maybe I just have a strange point of view.
> 
> 
> No, you presume a strange point of view on Steve's part, quite 
> unfairly. That is why he posted: stage 3 did NOT leave him a 
> functioning system from his POV. I don't know the right or wrong of 
> this, but implying Steve is an idiot seems quite derogatory. But 
> maybe I just have a strange point of view.

Sorry, no intention of implying that anyone other than myself was an
idiot ("I wonder" implies I do not understand something, so if anyone is
an idiot, it must be me for missing something so obvious to everyone
else, so I was actually asking for clarification), and apologies if it
read that way.

Myself, I don't consider that either a stage 1 or stage 3 leaves me with
more than a minimally functional system after the initial install, but a
stage 3 leaves me with a *higher functioning* minimal install than a
stage 1 does. Either way, I have to put in a fair amount of time either
installing the full system that includes the apps and whatnot that I
actually use, or customizing the stage 3 to reflect my actual usage
patterns, both of which operations take a lot of time.

But at least after a stage 3, I don't have to be *uncomfortable* while
I'm waiting to get my system up to my personal spec-- I can still *use*
Mozilla, even if it's compiled with Mail, and Composer, and IRC, while I
wait for it to recompile with the -moz*** USE flags.

Of course, that's the reason I generally did an Alternative Stage 1
install from inside another distro (Knoppix once, SuSE once), because I
only have the one system, and looking at a relatively useless console
for two or three days while my mail piles up doesn't suit me (not a big
Mutt user, and lynx annoys me). So this entire discussion doesn't have
so much personal relevance to me, except that it means that I can just
install Gentoo (in a couple of hours) should I ever need to do that
again, rather than having to haul out a Knoppix CD or boot to my SuSE
install because I want to (re-)install Gentoo (over a couple of days).

Holly
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