From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EeIFB-0006Op-1Q for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:26:29 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jALKOOHM012360; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:24:24 GMT Received: from popmail.jettissystems.com (popmail.jettissystems.com [38.118.146.212]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jALKFKWI000423 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:15:21 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.104] (unknown [69.17.21.212]) by popmail.jettissystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE40A56D482 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:20:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43821DEC.10805@badapple.net> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:20:12 -0600 From: kashani User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?) References: <8aaf1ee00511210433s6d23e8a6l6d95c9c2f2ed8b7d@mail.gmail.com> <200511211413.14160.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> In-Reply-To: <200511211413.14160.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 72388db1-a98d-46b7-855a-3b0dd93b7ffc X-Archives-Hash: e5221d899f9a4a4596fb7b0058ed61e0 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > well, it was made, because the idiots are too dumb to read and follow the > stage1 instructions. > > And gentoo needs more idiots, right? > > Up until now, the installation was a nice filter - but that has weakend now, > too. The last top posting/html thread was 3 weeks ago... so yes it's time for another "Keep Gentoo leet" thread. Gentoo isn't about pain, it's about getting work done. Anything, and I mean *anything*, that allows me to spend less time working and more time having a life is a good thing. Therefore we can deduce that anyone who wants a harder install is a hobbyist, dilettante, and a dabbler. Which is a conclusion just as logical as easier installs bring idiots. I so am tired of this argument that I'm not even going to call anyone a chowderhead this time around. Look at the history/life cycle of any industry or technology. Gentoo is on track to leave the Innovation phase, assuming a few tech problems get fully worked out, and enter the Early Adopter phase. Or maybe the Early Majority phase... you could probably make a case for either. http://marketingsage.net/W2W_Market_Stages.htm Yeah it's marketing speak which doesn't exactly match a project like Gentoo so well, but it's close enough. So rather than keeping out idiots we're keeping out the "Early Adopters adopt new ideas early, but carefully. They seek breakthrough advantages. They can be respected opinion leaders. They will invest in creating a complete solution so they may need lots of support." Translate that into "they're willing to deal with crappy processes to get the advantages and work to improve the shortcomings." I'll take that sort of idiot any day of the week. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list