From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdqOS-0007kY-DB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:42:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAKEfGtF008700; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:41:16 GMT Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.247.4]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAKEbG6s013866 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:37:16 GMT Received: from [10.0.0.150] (ip3e83ab52.speed.planet.nl [62.131.171.82]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IQ900DSECM2SV@smtp13.wxs.nl> for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:37:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:36:33 +0100 From: Holly Bostick Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin In-reply-to: <43807FEC.3010709@buanzo.com.ar> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Message-id: <438089F1.8020302@planet.nl> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051029) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 References: <20051117203328.73680.qmail@web25601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <437EC8BB.2040507@mid.email-server.info> <437F4072.70604@buanzo.com.ar> <200511192320.24536.abhay.ilugd@gmail.com> <437FC7ED.9060504@buanzo.com.ar> <43805ED5.5020502@mid.email-server.info> <438061FE.4040004@buanzo.com.ar> <438071FE.50009@mid.email-server.info> <43807355.5050104@buanzo.com.ar> <43807691.40009@mid.email-server.info> <4380796C.90409@buanzo.com.ar> <43807E2F.1040802@planet.nl> <43807FEC.3010709@buanzo.com.ar> X-Archives-Salt: 52480c21-bd7c-4d5f-b9f6-710775d7c427 X-Archives-Hash: 967684ff0f47b5bb5931748e50277bb5 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schreef: > Holly Bostick wrote: > >>> As you see, all the relevant programs that *can* use PAM (which >>> is *optional*) do *not* do so on my system. I do not need PAM >>> authentication, and I do not use PAM authentication. As far as I >>> know, my system runs fine (or at least has no PAM-related >>> issues). > > > I never said PAM was needed :P - I'm defending its usage. :) > Well, defend it, then :-). Why should I-- who has further had (very) bad experiences with the use of PAM, give it another try, when my system clearly runs without it, which suggests I have no need for it? What overwhelming benefit can I gain, that will offset my previous bad experience and make what I (because of the bad experience) must consider a risking my system worthwhile? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list