From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ednba-0000PQ-SK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:43:35 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAKBeQUC025545; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:40:26 GMT Received: from hetzner.email-server.info (new.email-server.info [213.133.109.44]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAKBWMjr010770 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:32:22 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.12] (mue-88-130-68-100.dsl.tropolys.de [88.130.68.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hetzner.email-server.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9173274006 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:32:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43805ED5.5020502@mid.email-server.info> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:32:37 +0100 From: Alexander Skwar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050809) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin References: <20051117203328.73680.qmail@web25601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <437EC8BB.2040507@mid.email-server.info> <437F4072.70604@buanzo.com.ar> <200511192320.24536.abhay.ilugd@gmail.com> <437FC7ED.9060504@buanzo.com.ar> In-Reply-To: <437FC7ED.9060504@buanzo.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 98f17148-f60a-4883-9d93-750245220e15 X-Archives-Hash: e48af721a0ac7b8f553c184cb004726c Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > abhay wrote: >> What? What kind of theory is that? > > Sorry, I didn't explain myself clearly. I didn't mean to say that "use gnu/linux/oss for the > purpose of learning". However you can't argue that one gets to learn a lot from simply using it. > > So, to clarify: > > Learning is the answer to the question, No it's not. The answer to the question: "Why DON'T refrain from using unneeded software and systems?" is NOT: "Learning". The answer is: "Do refrain fromusing systems that you don't need". And for the majority of systems, this would include PAM. Eg. if it's sufficient to use /etc/{passwd,shadow} as a password/user database, then there's just no reason to use another (in this case clearly: useless) layer on top of that. It just adds unneeded and unwanted complexity for no gain. So: Why use PAM on systems that fit to the scenario I laid out? Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list