From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdnF5-0005aJ-5X for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:20:19 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAKBJGh5012669; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:19:16 GMT Received: from hetzner.email-server.info (new.email-server.info [213.133.109.44]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAKBFWSR002142 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:15:32 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.12] (mue-88-130-68-100.dsl.tropolys.de [88.130.68.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hetzner.email-server.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B28274006 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:15:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43805AE3.5010604@mid.email-server.info> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:15:47 +0100 From: Alexander Skwar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050809) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin References: <20051117203328.73680.qmail@web25601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <437CED2F.7050502@buanzo.com.ar> <20051117231122.GA30003@princeton.edu> <20051119054556.GD18358@waltdnes.org> <437EBED9.5060504@cs.ubishops.ca> <437EC8BB.2040507@mid.email-server.info> <4529AEC8-F16F-4D44-8DDA-AE9347619E27@jolet.net> In-Reply-To: <4529AEC8-F16F-4D44-8DDA-AE9347619E27@jolet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: beeba79e-c4db-4e09-b63d-b70d9d000cfb X-Archives-Hash: 2b60d3310046c43fcd1ab63a130f9de6 John Jolet schrieb: > On Nov 19, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> Patrick McLean schrieb: >> >>> Running a system withoug pam is a rather strange thing to do on a >>> modern >>> Linux system, and I can think of very few reasons to do it. >> >> What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one >> (human) user on the system and the system acts as a "consumer" >> (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's >> the gain - in *THAT* scenario? >> > > I'm not sure about you, but I can think of MANY times over my career > when I set up a box "to do just one thing" or "for just one person" > and down the road all of a sudden, I needed another thing or another > person. Fine. That's a different scenario. Please stick to the scenario I mentioned. > Retrofitting pam onto a running, configured system is not > something I'd care to attempt. Having pam on from the beginning, if > you don't fiddle with the defaults, poses no extra complexity. And what do you gain by using PAM? Again: Stick to the scenario I mentioned. I think, that it is not an unusual scenario - I tend to think, that it'll fit most home users and also most desktop machines in a *SMALL* office enviroment. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list