From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdLsg-0000n5-Jl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:07:23 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAJ66F0X023763; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:06:15 GMT Received: from cs.ubishops.ca (Lists.Odin.ubishops.ca [206.167.194.132]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAJ5vlmk025249 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 05:57:47 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.5] (Toronto-HSE-ppp3786098.sympatico.ca [67.68.245.11]) by cs.ubishops.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F993A7A1 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:57:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <437EBED9.5060504@cs.ubishops.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:57:45 -0500 From: Patrick McLean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051026) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin References: <20051117203328.73680.qmail@web25601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <437CED2F.7050502@buanzo.com.ar> <20051117231122.GA30003@princeton.edu> <20051119054556.GD18358@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20051119054556.GD18358@waltdnes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a2c1d9e5-95e5-4871-8a19-9af79ee0901c X-Archives-Hash: 77a3603527c018fd75cd6fc5d46389fb Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 06:11:22PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote > > >>Clarify? I certainly run my box without pam and I can still login. Is >>this some new development that I am not aware of? > > > You need to emerge *EITHER* pam *OR* shadow. You can't emerge both, > because they provide the same service. I prefer to run without pam, > because "everything you know is wrong" when it comes to config files > all over the place. > That is outright wrong, pam and shadow are different things. Pam is an authentication framework, and shadow is an authentication mechanism. Pam lets you use many ways to authenticate (the default being shadow on a standard Gentoo system). Running a system withoug pam is a rather strange thing to do on a modern Linux system, and I can think of very few reasons to do it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list